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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #690 on: March 07, 2009, 05:47:20 pm »
Well it wasn't just Justin, it was multiple people. (Myself, Vehek, and Mav also helped... A couple other people might've, too) But, uh, you're welcome! I can't wait until this becomes real too.

 :shock: *Takes foot out of mouth.* Sorry about that, guys. I meant to thank all of you. :(

Anyway, I might have an idea to Schala's reactions to Chrono's Mom. What do you think of this?

Chrono's Mom: Oh my another young lady? When did my boy become such a ladies man? But you look a little too thin, dear. That won't do at all!

Schala: (surprised) Umm... that's okay, Miss. I-

Chrono's Mom: And that attitude. You'll never find a good man if you're set on being so meek.

Schala: No, really-! I... umm... (Lowers head) *sigh* *Thinking* 'She's so assertive. I wonder if I could be like that, someday...'

I hope I didn't go out of character. What do you guys think?

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #691 on: March 07, 2009, 06:31:04 pm »
Hah! That was great. Schala's wording seems a bit off, but I love what Crono's mom says. The reaction seems good. Let's see what Chocobo and the others think.
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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #692 on: March 07, 2009, 06:37:14 pm »
I like it , yeah the wording seems quite different to her character she would never use the word "Miss" after all she is royalty and has never had to use that word .Ever.

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #693 on: March 07, 2009, 06:38:56 pm »
I treat everyone equally actually. I use 'Miss' quite a lot.

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #694 on: March 07, 2009, 06:43:05 pm »
Edit: Oh! If you can't find a fitting theme for the DD battle, I think that The Last Day of the World would work great. It's a very sad, lonely, emotional theme. I think it fits Schala's despair as she is imprisoned atop Lavos very well.
Is "The Last Day of the World" the same theme as "The Day The World Revived"?

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« Reply #695 on: March 07, 2009, 06:43:37 pm »
I see myself corrected :)

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #696 on: March 07, 2009, 08:38:17 pm »
Edit: Oh! If you can't find a fitting theme for the DD battle, I think that The Last Day of the World would work great. It's a very sad, lonely, emotional theme. I think it fits Schala's despair as she is imprisoned atop Lavos very well.
Is "The Last Day of the World" the same theme as "The Day The World Revived"?

Um, yeah... It's Tom Slattery's translation for the DS music player. Sorry if I confused you. (Personally, I like "The Last Day of the World" better, but "The Day the World Revived" is more fitting... Eh)

@ Skylark: Huh, Gina really wants Crono to have a girlfriend. o_O I'll have to check the other reactions, and the wording does sound a tad bit...off, but it's good. I'm sure Schala's reaction would definitely be very confused and surprised.

Perhaps "pale" instead of "thin", though? Because I imagine that Schala would be very pale... o_O (As would many other Zealians)

And yes, Schala using "Miss" is perfectly fine. She's very polite and formal, even if she is royalty, she'd still call Gina "Miss" or "Madam", I'm sure.

Oh, and also, I think it would be a good idea to add a "......" line for Schala after Dalton has his "you stuck-up brat!" line. I imagine her rolling her eyes or sighing or something. I bet she had to put up with him being like that a lot in Zeal. :p I'll edit my post to add it.

Edit: Ah, back to the good old days when I rapidly come up with a bunch of ideas in a short period of time and need to edit my posts madly! o_O I think her "surprised" sprite shouldn't be all bulgy-eyed and cartoony like the others'. Maybe just have her look a little taken aback or something...just something better than "bulgy eyes cartoon time!". o_O

Also, I really need to do that script combing thing. I keep putting that off. I'm going to do it now. For real. o_O
« Last Edit: March 07, 2009, 08:43:37 pm by Chocobo_Fan »

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #697 on: March 07, 2009, 08:43:36 pm »
As a recent newcomer, allow me the pleasure of jumping in on page 40-something and saying...

This is awesome!

Rom hacking looks pretty fun, too...

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #698 on: March 07, 2009, 08:51:08 pm »
I'm still kind of confused as of right now on how to code the overworld to either disable you using the Epoch real quick or at least keeping a specific location loaded until another value is changed.  The way it is right now, I can't just do a random let's switch to this map because it'll really screw up the events and whatnot.

Edit: I think I found a temporary way to disable the Epoch via the overworld but I'm not entirely sure if it's safe.
Edit 2: Nvm...I can't get a proper variable check on the Overworld for the variable I was using, so that plans out.  Ugh.
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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #699 on: March 07, 2009, 11:04:35 pm »
Hm. The script didn't help much in figuring out Gina's reaction to Schala. Hm.

With a little tweaking, Skylark's could work... Though I think Gina might want to know Schala's name... Also, doesn't she know Crono's already in love with Marle by that point...? Feh...

And now to find her actual reactions. Tomorrow though. Tired. o_o

Edit: Oh, wait... Right after Gina's done talking, Schala might walk over to Crono and say this:

{8th}: It seems your era is much different than mine, {Crono}... {line break}
I wonder if I'll ever get used to time traveling. {null}

Oh, and I think Schala needs a "sighing" sprite. I don't know why, it just seems fitting for her. o_O Only if it's not too much trouble, though.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2009, 11:07:44 pm by Chocobo_Fan »

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #700 on: March 07, 2009, 11:14:05 pm »
I'm sure Rox won't mind.

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« Reply #701 on: March 08, 2009, 08:32:03 am »
Oh, good! :D

After thinking it over last night, here's a refined version of Skylark's:

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Gina: My, my! Crono is sure bringing over a lot of friends these days! {full break}
What's your name, dear? {null}

{8th}: I'm {8th}. Pleased to meet you. {null}

Gina: {8th}...? {delay 01} Sounds sort of... {delay 02} mystical. {full break}
But that name alone isn't going to attract any men around here!
You need to do something about that slim body of yours! You're as skinny as a stick! {null}

{8th}: U-um... {null}

Gina: And so pale! You need more sun! {null}

{8th} Well- {delay 01} uh- {delay 01} yes, many Zealians do tend to be- {null}

Gina: Don't you be eying my {Crono}, though! I hear he already has a girlfriend! {null}

*Schala: surprised sprite*

{8th}: W-what?! Why would I-? {null}

*Schala: normal sprite*

Gina: Oh, dear! Look at the time! Sorry for keeping you for so long. {full break}
I'm sure {Crono}'s getting impatient to leave. Go run along, now! {null}

{8th}: U-uh, yes, of course... {null}

If Crono is in the party, she will walk over to him and say:

*Schala: sigh sprite*

{8th}: It seems your home era is much different than mine, {Crono}... {full break}
I wonder if I'll ever get used to this... {null}

***

Tell me what you think. Also, SCRIPT COMBING TIME NOW. SERIOUSLY. o_o (Expect quite a few edits)

Edit: Found one. Remember when Gina asks if Crono's alright while the party gets the Dopple-doll? Here: (I'll include Gina's too, to make things less confusing. (I'm using the Retranslated script for her, by the way))

***

Gina: Ah, welcome. {line break}
Is {Crono} well? {null}

{8th}: I'm sorry to tell you this, but... {full break}
...... {full break}
I... {delay 02} I mean, he's fine. He's... {delay 03} okay... {null}

Gina: Yes, well, I hope he's not being too energetic and causing you too much trouble... {full break}
Tell {Crono} too. {line break}
"Don't cause too much trouble." {null}

{8th}: ...... {full break}
We... {delay 02} We'll make sure to tell him... {full break}
...Uh, also, though... {null}

Gina: Yes? {null}

{8th}: This doll... {delay 02}{line break}
We need it for something. {full break}
Can we please borrow it for a little while? {null}

***

Edit 2: Looks like the party has a lot of reactions at Death Peak's summit.

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{8th}: We need your power... {delay 01} Please, give it to us... {full break}
All feelings that tremble in the night... {delay 02}{line break}
All life that stands against the darkness... {null}

{8th}: {Crono}...! {null}

(It turns out that she doesn't need a reaction for the pendant glowing. Instead, there's one after)

{8th}: N-no...! This can't be...! {full break}
The Guru of Time's projects never failed! Why now?! {line break}
{Crono}! Answer us!! {null}

{8th}: ...... {full break}
We went all this way, and now... {full break}
I suppose... {delay 02} It was impossible... {delay 03}
What comes from the earth, returns to it... {delay 02} The process cannot be reversed. {null}

{8th}: W-what?! {full break}
Yes! I knew Gaspar's Chrono Trigger would work! {null}

*she looks around*

{8th}: But...what is this? A time freeze...? Gaspar tried for years to do such a thing...!

{8th}: It worked... {delay 02} Thank the gods... {null}

(I don't think she should say much there, since Crono doesn't know her that well and would be confused as to why she's there.)

(I actually think she shouldn't say anything at all for the "Welcome back, Crono!!!" lines.)

*Schala: crying sprite* (<--- Yes, she needs a crying sprite, I think... Only if Rox/whoever's spriting is okay with it, though!)

{8th}: I... {delay 02} I'm so sorry... {full break}
I'm such a fool... {delay 02} It's all my fault... {full break}
I should never have powered that foul thing... {delay 01}
If I hadn't, Zeal would still be... {delay 02} {Crono} would still be... {full break}
But I was afraid... {delay 01} Afraid of Mother... {null}

If Magus is in the party:

{Magus}: Stop it, {8th}! Don't tear yourself apart like this! {full break}
It wasn't your fault. It was Lavos's. {delay 03}{line break}
And don't call that thing "Mother". It wasn't our mother, and you know that. {null}

*Schala: sad sprite*

{8th}: ...... {full break}
Yes... {delay 02} I suppose you're right... {null}

Resume normal dialog:

*Schala: normal sprite*

*Schala looks at the rest of the party clustered around Crono*

{8th}: ...I... {delay 01} mustn't dwell on this... {delay 02}{line break}
I should join the others. {null}

*she walks slightly closer to Crono*

***

Edit 3: I'll do all the reactions for the various end-game sidequests here. Expect this part to be big! D:

Upon seeing the pendant react to the Forest Ruins:

{8th}: {Marle}'s pendant...! It must be reacting to something... {null}

In the Sunken Desert:

{8th}: What's causing these violent tremors? {null}

Upon seeing Retinite/Melfikk:

{8th}: Oh no, I've heard of this thing... {full break}
It's a terrible parasite that drains all the nutrients out of the land, preventing anything from growing! {line break}
This must be what's preventing Fiona from planting her sapling! We have to defeat it! {null}

{8th}: It seems to have lodged itself within some strange undead creature that allows it to tunnel through the sand... {full break}
We need to find a way to engage it! {null}

After defeating Retinite/Melfikk:

{8th}: There... {delay 01} Now Fiona should be able to plant her sapling. {line break}
We should go back and tell her! {null}

(Agh, the campsite scene with Robo is difficult. I'll have to work on that later. Magus might talk with her a little off to the side, like on Death Peak, though. Maybe.)

In Geno Dome, after Atropos talks to Robo:

{8th}: What do you mean? {Robo} was just acting all this time...?! {null}

{8th}: No... {delay 02} that can't be true...! {null}

When seeing the human conveyor belt:

{8th}: !!! {full break}

*she looks away, crying sprite*

{8th}: I... {delay 01} I can't watch! This is terrible! We have to stop it! {null}

After defeating Mother Brain: (I think that Robo should add Schala to his speech of who his friends are if she's in the party, by the way)

{8th}: {Robo}... {null}

Upon obtaining the Moon Stone:

{8th}: The Sun Stone...! {full break}
I thought it would be lost forever after the Sun Palace was swallowed by the sea! {line break}
It has extremely high energy reserves. If we could use it... {full break}
...Oh, it seems all its power has been drained over the years... {full break}
However, if we could find a way to recharge its solar energy, we could use it again! {line break}
The only problem is that it would need to be exposed to constant sunlight for millions upon millions of years... {full break}
Let's bring it back to Prehistory. We'll need to place it there anyway to give it enough time to recharge. {null}

(I already gave her reaction to finding the Sun Keep a while back)

{8th}: There. Now, if we head to 2300 A.D., it should be completely recharged.

Upon finding the Moon Stone missing from the Sun Keep in 2300 AD:

{8th}: What?! It's gone?! {full break}
It seems like it's been a while since it disappeared, though. We should look for it in an earlier era. {null}

Upon finding the Moon Stone missing from the Sun Keep in 1000 AD:

{8th}: Hm... {delay 01} it's not here, either... {full break}
Its lingering energy is quite strong here, though. Did some greedy person from this era steal it? {null}

Upon finding the fully charged Sun Stone in the 2300 AD Sun Keep:

{8th}: It looks beautiful...! {full break}
It's been such a long time since I saw it... {delay 01} And I was very young then. {full break}
But that's not important. We should let {Lucca} see this. I'm sure she'd love to use its energy! {null}

Upon noticing Cyrus is invincible in the 1000 AD Northern Ruins:

{8th}: What is this? Nothing we try can even scratch it! {null}

Upon entering the Giant's Claw:

{8th}: What is this place? The architecture seems ancient...

(Poor Schala doesn't know what's going on, since she didn't see Lavos fall...)

Upon seeing the Rainbow Shell:

{8th}: Its beauty is dazzling...! {line break}
I wonder how it was made. It looks like a snail shell... {delay 02} What creature once lived in it?

(What DID live in that thing? No one seems the least bit curious about the fact it looks like a snail shell. o_O)

Upon trying to move the Rainbow Shell:

{8th}: It's far too heavy! We can't carry it like this... {null}

Upon asking King Guardia for help:

{8th}: We have a request... {delay 01} I'm sorry if it interrupts something important you need to do for the kingdom... {null}

After the king agrees to transport it:

{8th}: Thank you very much! {null}

After the Chancellor says to find evidence for the trial:

{8th}: Don't worry. If we can find the Rainbow Shell, we can prove he's innocent. {full break}
Since we altered history in 600 A.D., it should still be in the castle treasury. {null}

Upon finding the Rainbow Shell in the treasury:

{8th}: Here we are! Now we'll just- {delay 03}{line break}
Wait, what's this? A letter...? {null}

If Magus is in the party, after he says "Shall I burn it?":

{8th}: {Magus}! Don't say things like that! {null}

{Magus}: ...... {null}

After Marle reads the letter:

{8th}: That's so sweet... {null}

*sad sprite*

{8th}: I'm happy that you have a loving family, {Marle}... {null}

*normal sprite*

{8th}: B, but that's not important right now! We need to hurry and save your father! {null}

After Guardia the 33rd tells the party to take care of Marle:

{8th}: Don't worry. {Marle}'s strong. She'll be fine. {null}

Upon seeing Melchior:

{8th}: !! {null}

Melchior: !! {full break}
Dearest {8th}! What happened to you?! {null}

{8th}: After Lavos left, the Ocean Palace collapsed. I thought I was going to die... {null}

*she looks to the other party members*

{8th}: ...But they saved me. {null}

Melchior: Oh, I'm so glad! {null}

*Melchior: thoughtful sprite*

Melchior: I thought I was going to die as well... {delay 02} But the timegate sent me to this era. {null}

*Melchior: normal sprite*

Melchior: But enough talk. I'm a master smith, correct? The material this shell is made of -- and in such a great amount -- is a smith's dream come true! I'll forge the greatest armor you've ever seen from this thing! Just watch! {full break}
But first... {null}

(Resume normal dialog starting with his "you want 3 Prism Helms or 3 Prism Dresses?" text)

***

Whew, I think that's everything. o_o

Edit 4: :(

***

1999 AD: (Without Epoch)

Right before Lavos erupts:

{8th}: The air is tense... {delay 02} It's coming... {null}

{8th}: ...It's about to erupt! Brace yourselves! {null}

Right after Lavos erupts:

{8th}: Ugh...! {delay 02} Its power... {delay 01} It's overwhelming...! {null}

After defeating Lavos's "head":

{8th}: Amazing... {delay 01} We did it... {null}

{8th}: A hole...? Is there something inside? {null}

Right before going in to the shell:

*Schala falls to her knees*

{8th}: Aaah...! There's definitely something inside... {delay 01} I feel unbelievable amounts of dark energy radiating from that hole...! {null}

*Schala: normal sprite*

{8th}: We have no choice... {delay 02} We have to go inside to truly defeat Lavos! {null}

With Epoch:

{8th}: W-what is this? I feel tremendous energy, but not dark like Lavos's... {delay 02} Is the {Epoch} doing this...? {null}

{8th}: It's too powerful to fight on ground level... {delay 01} This may be our only chance! {delay 02}{line break}
...but the {Epoch} may not be enough either... {null}

{8th}: Aaah! The shock of the impact is going to be enormous! I'm not sure if we'll survive it...! {line break}
The {Epoch} might not either! {null}

{8th}: Our courage can't waver now! We have to believe in the {Epoch}! {null}

{8th}: Please, {Epoch}... {delay 02} Defeat this menace for us! {null}

{8th}: We can't give up hope now... {delay 01} Protect us, gods of Zeal... {null}

{8th}: This is it! Don't fail us now, {Epoch}...! {null}

(I have the rest of her Lavos speeches in the main text block. However, I think I messed up on her Lavos speech, so...)

Upon seeing Lavos's final form:

{8th}: ...... {full break}
So, to you, we are nothing but wheat for the reaping...! {full break}
You took everything from me! My family, my kingdom, my entire world...! {line break}
Yet all that is meaningless to you! You're nothing but a parasite... {delay 02} A parasite the feeds on peoples' hopes and dreams! {null}

{8th}: You monster... {delay 01} You don't care about any of the evil you're doing, do you? You don't think it matters? You think you can just get away with all of this...?! {null}

{8th}: I won't let this continue...! {null}

*she assumes a fighting stance*

{8th}: Give Mother back!! {null}

***

Whew. Okay, now I'm done. I think... o_o

...OH WAIT I HAVE TO WRITE SCRIPT FOR THE "REUNION" ENDING! WHY DOES THE WORLD HATE ME SO?!?!

Blargh. Later. o_o
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 04:42:27 pm by Chocobo_Fan »

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #702 on: March 08, 2009, 01:32:33 pm »
Very nice so far, here are the only things that either need correction, or need rewording:
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{8th}: I... {delay 02} I'm so sorry... {full break}
I'm such an idiot... {delay 02} It's all my fault... {full break}
Although the dialog makes perfect sense, "idiot" doesn't sound eloquent enough for Schala. "I'm such a fool" would work...that's my opinion though.
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Upon seeing Retinite/Melfikk:

{8th}: Oh no, I've heard of this thing... {full break}
It's a terrible parasite that drains all the nutrients out of the land, preventing anything from growing! {line break}
This must be what's preventing Fiona from planting her sapling! We have to defeat it! {null}

{8th}: It seems to have lodged itself within some strange undead creature that allows it to tunnel through the sand... {full break}
We need to find a way to engage it! {null}
I'm not sure whether she should know what Retinite is, but that's your call. At times it's gonna seem like she knows far too much, in comparison to the other characters. On a lesser, unnecessary note, Schala seems very heavily impacted by the Crono's death and Robo's Mother Brain scenes--does she know them well enough to react in such a way? Crono's is fine, but I feel like she's already too connected to Robo. Again, your call, not mine.
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{8th}: It's beauty is dazzling...! {line break}
I wonder how it was made. It looks like a snail shell... {delay 02} What creature once lived in it?

(What DID live in that thing? No one seems the least bit curious about the fact it looks like a snail shell. o_O)
Hah, I didn't even think about if anything lived in it. Anyway, It's beauty should be "Its beauty", nothing big.



Anyways, well done, well done. Most of my suggestions are just dialog tweaks at best, so fret not.

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Re: Chrono Trigger - Schala Project (Community Project)
« Reply #703 on: March 08, 2009, 01:46:09 pm »
I think her being connected to them is perfectly fine.  She didn't know Crono and crew in Zeal but she felt the need to save them.  She's too innocent you could say, so she feels sorry for anything so quickly.

I agree on her knowing what the Retinite is though.  That should be changed.  I also don't see her being the type to bash her self so openly.  Maybe remove the entire "I'm such an idiot" spot and just have it be "It's all my fault" for the second line.

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« Reply #704 on: March 08, 2009, 02:25:48 pm »
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Upon seeing the pendant react to the Forest Ruins:

{8th}: {Marle}'s pendant...! It must be reacting to something... {null}

Perhaps her pendant would react also ...unless its not powered up