Crazy Ideas Thread (outdated)

[Kyronea]

(after Magus)
Beetle
Blue Eaglet (tougher version)
(and somethig else) Can't be Frogs or Tadpoles because there will be a Tadpole NPC here eventually that has the fishing stuff.

Wonderful. As for what else...damned if I know...maybe we can have MFK come up with a new type of enemy. Something fitting the forest scenery, say a Bellbird or something.

[Zakyrus]

Magic Cave:

Mystics (Skeleton variety) //Skeletons do not respawn
Vampire Bats
Vermin (I renamed those purple rats to this)

Boss:
defunct? (maybe I'll experiment)

After Magus:
Vampire Bats
Vermin
(since this area will only be used so few, more than 2 types is not that important.)

[Zakyrus]

I gotta go. 
Hopefully I will get alot done in the next few days so I can make a mini-patch.

Later.

[Kyronea]

Magic Cave:

Mystics (Skeleton variety) //Skeletons do not respawn
Vampire Bats
Vermin (I renamed those purple rats to this)

Boss:
defunct? (maybe I'll experiment)

After Magus:
Vampire Bats
Vermin
(since this area will only be used so few, more than 2 types is not that important.)

Both work well. Farethewell, Zakyrus, and good luck. I'll keep working on the endings in the mean time.

[Zakyrus]

*** The whole idea about entering the water in Heckran Caverns was just too explain that Robo can go in it. That's all, sorry if I didn't explain the meaning behind this.

Oh yeah, I want to use the Frog King as a mini-boss (might as well, because we can't replace this enemy or it screws up the Cyrus scene)

Lost Cutscnese: So, I was thinking that after you talk to Tata and get the Medal from him, then the Frog King would be waiting to ambush you in the Cursed Woods or something... What do you think? (of cousrse, we can do this until we can edit monster AI I think it's a nice idea, and like I said before, we might as well use this monster for something.)


Frog will say something the first time he sees Lavos (Ocean Palace) OR if you bring him to the Arris Dome Computer Room and show him the video.


Also, don't worry if I haven't been on lately. I am getting alot done on the ROM.
95% done with Truce Canyon (since we only come here a few times it's now way smaller, but small enough where we won't need a shortcut)

Cursed Woods 50%
Need to finish the map and event stuff -- have RECODE the forest events 

Medina Square 60%
Need to reposition, and move Fanatics, add guards that escort you out everytime you enter there.

Reptites's Nest --
Remap everything so it has: a Dining Hall area attached to a Kitchen, barracks areas, and redo all events.

[Kyronea]

*** The whole idea about entering the water in Heckran Caverns was just too explain that Robo can go in it. That's all, sorry if I didn't explain the meaning behind this.

In that case, we should only have the lines expressing concern for Robo if he is in the party.

Oh yeah, I want to use the Frog King as a mini-boss (might as well, because we can't replace this enemy or it screws up the Cyrus scene)

Lost Cutscnese: So, I was thinking that after you talk to Tata and get the Medal from him, then the Frog King would be waiting to ambush you in the Cursed Woods or something... What do you think? (of cousrse, we can do this until we can edit monster AI I think it's a nice idea, and like I said before, we might as well use this monster for something.)

Eh...maybe, if we can actually make it seem reasonable.

Frog will say something the first time he sees Lavos (Ocean Palace) OR if you bring him to the Arris Dome Computer Room and show him the video.

I agree with the video bit, but no need to insert the line at the Ocean Palace...it'll disrupt the scene.

Also, don't worry if I haven't been on lately. I am getting alot done on the ROM.
95% done with Truce Canyon (since we only come here a few times it's now way smaller, but small enough where we won't need a shortcut)

Cursed Woods 50%
Need to finish the map and event stuff -- have RECODE the forest events 

Medina Square 60%
Need to reposition, and move Fanatics, add guards that escort you out everytime you enter there.

Reptites's Nest --
Remap everything so it has: a Dining Hall area attached to a Kitchen, barracks areas, and redo all events.

Good to know.

[Zakyrus]

So adding the Frog King as a reappearing enemy is ok? If so, what point in the game should we have him? I am giving a test ROM to anclunn who is working with enemy AI. He will have the Bull Frogs (or whatever the Frog King has) dual tech and do something (water2?).
The test ROM only will have a path in Gato's exhibit that leads to a small map with the Frog King... (I don't want to give anything else to anyone yet)

[Kyronea]

So adding the Frog King as a reappearing enemy is ok? If so, what point in the game should we have him? I am giving a test ROM to anclunn who is working with enemy AI. He will have the Bull Frogs (or whatever the Frog King has) dual tech and do something (water2?).
The test ROM only will have a path in Gato's exhibit that leads to a small map with the Frog King... (I don't want to give anything else to anyone yet)

Well, I suppose, but I would say at most he should be a foe who leads some people at you at the Denadoro Mountains on the way to the Masamune. That sound okay?

[Zakyrus]

That might work.
How about in the Cursed Woods? The area is tricky and it would be a good oppertunity to try to get the Medal back whilst the party is confused by the Forest. They would also have the Hero Medal by that point, it would give an encounter/cutscene to the Cursed Woods.

[Kyronea]

That might work.
How about in the Cursed Woods? The area is tricky and it would be a good oppertunity to try to get the Medal back whilst the party is confused by the Forest. They would also have the Hero Medal by that point, it would give an encounter/cutscene to the Cursed Woods.

That would be neat. He can appear in both places, with the second place to foil the party once again before he's defeated for good. (Mainly because I can't think of anywhere else he could appear.)

[Zakyrus]

Hey, you're on to something there.
At the Denadoro he could be looking around for the Medal, see you, send some Croakers after you and run away.
Then at the Cursed Woods he will know you have the Hero Medal and will attack with himself and two Bull Frogs.

[Kyronea]

Hey, you're on to something there.
At the Denadoro he could be looking around for the Medal, see you, send some Croakers after you and run away.
Then at the Cursed Woods he will know you have the Hero Medal and will attack with himself and two Bull Frogs.

That works for me, certainly.

[Zakyrus]

Excellent. Any chance you could write a cut-scene for each scenario?

Edit:


After Frog King Battle:

Aaaaaaack!
Fine! Grrrribbbit!
Keep the damn medal!

Come my loyal subjects, let us flee!
Grrrribbbit!

<Frog King and Bull Frogs Run from the scene, never to be seen again> (except in the Glenn/Cyrus flashback ofcourse)

[Kyronea]

Excellent. Any chance you could write a cut-scene for each scenario?

I will do so tomorrow...I'd do it tonight but I am too tired to concentrate well.

Edit:


After Frog King Battle:

Aaaaaaack!
Fine! Grrrribbbit!
Keep the damn medal!

Come my loyal subjects, let us flee!
Grrrribbbit!

<Frog King and Bull Frogs Run from the scene, never to be seen again> (except in the Glenn/Cyrus flashback ofcourse)

Aye, that was the basic idea of what I had in mind.

[Zakyrus]

Alrighty. At the moment I am enhancing Medina Square (expanding the size of it and moving everything).. as well as adding the cut-scene.

The cut-scene should only happen once, unless Frog is in the party, he will say his line and you'll get booted out of Medina Square once again.