Author Topic: [DONE][100] Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters  (Read 3110 times)

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We are presently unsure where these two monsters appear in Chrono Cross:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Porre_SGT.html (#2)
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Wingapede_(Monsters).html (#2)

It's possible that they're simply unused.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2009, 08:27:08 am by ZeaLitY »

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 07:32:40 pm »
Oh! I don't know about the soldier but I actually fought the Wingapede before!

When trying to gain access to Gaea's Navel, if you aren't prepared and don't have the right supplies(I'm guessing that's why it happened)then in the Hydra Marshes the Wingapede will battle you. But I can guarentee you that that thing is used in game.

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 11:57:11 pm »
Oh! I don't know about the soldier but I actually fought the Wingapede before!

When trying to gain access to Gaea's Navel, if you aren't prepared and don't have the right supplies(I'm guessing that's why it happened)then in the Hydra Marshes the Wingapede will battle you. But I can guarentee you that that thing is used in game.
There are 2 Wingapedes in that page.

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Also:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Big_Boxer.html#Unknown
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Li%27l_Boxer.html#Unknown

Maybe i need to replay the game to check it out.

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 12:17:29 am »
There are 2 Wingapedes in that page.

And only one has it's location as 'unknown', which would be that which Onslaught wrote about.

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 12:37:04 am »
Hmm, I see.
Although I didn't see that happened.

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 03:49:41 am »
You can fight the wingapede at two different times ...but in the same place , and only one per playthrough.

Once when saving Kid , if you didnt save her you can then fight it on the way to the navel like Onslaught said .

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 06:08:30 pm »
Ah, so the first weaker one is for saving Kid, and the second is for going to Gaea's Navel?

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 06:15:05 pm »
Yes. What gingerest says fits. Because when i fought that Wingapede I chose to not save Kid since I really was after Glenn.

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2009, 12:50:11 am »
Even if you save Kid, you can still avoid the fighting (I didn't fight it at the first time).
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Yeah, I restored my previously saved file and fought it as Lynx.
But it drops AeroSaucer, so it is the same Wingapede as the one you may encounter before.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2009, 12:53:11 am by utunnels »

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2009, 12:54:08 am »
What was his HP? Maybe that info of the second version could be wrong.

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2009, 12:55:18 am »
The info was dumped from the rom by me, so...

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Edit* Here's the screenshot.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2009, 01:08:25 am by utunnels »

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Re: Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2009, 01:23:21 am »
Okay, so indeed it's the same version.

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Re: [100] Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2009, 10:35:33 am »
Confirmed the Porre PVT/SGT you fight as Lynx are their higher HP versions instead of the lower HP versions.
The lower HP versions of them are used by Doppelgang only( HP is not used though, only other stats).

« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 10:37:14 am by utunnels »

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Re: [100] Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2009, 01:17:19 pm »
So the 400 HP version can't be doppelganged?

(Note to self: Edit http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Porre_SGT.html#Viper_Manor based on answer)

Maybe we can assume the other Wingapede was intended to be used for the first encounter, but developers accidentally used the stronger version anyway.

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Re: [100] Deduce purpose and location of these two Chrono Cross monsters
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2009, 01:06:53 am »
The game has 2 identical lists to store enemy data.
One it uses to spawn enemies, the other one is compressed and used only for Doppelgang.
So in theory they can make them completely different, but they are just identical...