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the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« on: July 12, 2012, 08:08:53 pm »
Is there any documented history in Chrono Trigger, Radical Dreamers or Chrono Cross that shows what happened in the other centuries? I mean I know after the year 1000 Poore presumably destroyed Guardia. We also saw a huge technological advancement in the year 1999 and the world looked relatively untouched..until Lavos came. Do you think that there were nuclear weapons in 1999? Which may have contributed to the mutants in 2300.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 12:11:00 am »
I believe 1999 is considered a sort of 'death point' for the planet... so one could say that all normal life and evolution at that point stopped and only a few human stragglers persisted, while every other life form we see are the death throes of the planet. The distortions in its dream as it loses its grip on reality.

It is also possible that the mutants are a result of advanced science being let loose from controlled environments in labs and set upon nature, distorting the order of things in that way. Uncontrolled experiments... I always assumed the Labs 16 and 32 were literally scientific centers and the streets adjacent them, which would account for why there are so many mutants there.

If it were a nuclear problem, wouldn't it affect the human populace as well?

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 02:36:38 am »
Yes but there certainly must have been alot of events between 1000 and 1999.

And yes, the nuclear problem would effect humans, unless the domes acted as fallout shelters

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 07:22:40 am »
In theory, if they had nuclear weapons, and they went unchecked for an extended period of time, they would simply degrade into their silos... becoming toxic in near proximity, but otherwise harmless to the surrounding areas. The problem arises when nuclear weapons detonate, because that spreads the fallout all over, and destroys most biological matter in the blast radius nigh instantly, and disables any device susceptible to E.M.P...

It's not unfathomable that they had them, but I always imagined the pre-'99 planet to be more a peaceful society... That's just how it seemed to me anyway. Maybe that's counter-intuitive based on the shear amount of weapons in 2300AD... Honestly I think it would be more interesting to think about that last 300 years after '99. The 1000~1999 period never seemed like much really happened. I mean science advanced, but everything seemed pretty cozy.

I'd imagine whatever happened in the interim of antiquity and present probably continued to happen for a while... Maybe I'm just too tired right now, but I can't really think of much other than the fall of Guardia and deciding to make cities come in jar format.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 03:44:36 pm »
how there are living people 2300 if Lavos attack happen 1999??

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 06:23:31 pm »
Well, not everyone died from the wipeout, the human race- and probably the vast majority of life as well- was simply subdued. The degree to which humans had been crushed put them in a state that was a damnation, the eventual extinction being inevitable. It's just taken time to deteriorate to the degree it had.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 05:08:46 am »
One thing that I wonder about is is the Chrono universe surpost to be like our world? At the end of Chrono Cross we see Kid in what looks to be Tokyo. So I wonder if countries like the US and Japan exist in the Chrono series cause if they do then the Chrono universe might have had a WW1 and WW2 as well in between 1000 AD and 1999 AD.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 09:48:25 am »
One thing that I wonder about is is the Chrono universe surpost to be like our world? At the end of Chrono Cross we see Kid in what looks to be Tokyo. So I wonder if countries like the US and Japan exist in the Chrono series cause if they do then the Chrono universe might have had a WW1 and WW2 as well in between 1000 AD and 1999 AD.

The ending is part of Kato's message. He wanted the audience to feel that there is a "Kid" waiting for them; a treasure worth chasing after.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2012, 12:03:12 pm »
And, considering how he writes, that Kato made the game leave off on a high note if you do everything right is kinda surprising. Pleasant, but surprising.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 12:56:02 pm »
But also, no, it's not meant to be Earth. Not at all. The world was called Zurvan somewhere. I think it was in CC.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 01:36:33 am »
 :oops:
ok...

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 11:02:06 am »
No, Zurvan is not the name of the planet. Schala mentions in CC that it is the sea of dreams.

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 01:59:24 pm »
So?

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Re: the years between 1000 AD and 1999
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 04:49:29 pm »
So Zurvan is at least an ocean, might be a metaphorical ocean but whatever, it's definitely not meant to be earth.

The Chrono world does have a lot of similarities for obvious reasons but the history is completely inconsistent with ours even if you switch out the names and dates and forget that it's all about aliens and magic.