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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2005, 02:39:21 pm »
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its possible that Magus was sent to a few years prior to 12000 BC, and then he could use his memories of things that happened up to the point that Crono got there and started changing things to convince people he was a prophet.


it's probably true. it took some time to magus to gain the status of prophet inside Zeal palace. but year... i dunno maybe month..

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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2005, 07:42:15 pm »
I don't see why his time factor means anything...I think it could be as short as a week or a few days...When you start to accurately predict future events, people will lable you a prophet...Especially with the odd sort of past mentality that Zealians very easily probably had...

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2005, 12:51:13 am »
yes, but do you think there would be alot of semi-major events worth that he predicited worthy of him getting to the Queen?  I think he would have needed more time to build prestige.

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2005, 03:56:13 am »
i concur with sentenal; after all zeal is magic civilisation, not a primitive one.
i don't think they are so gullible..

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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2005, 06:20:37 am »
Not gullable? What about the whole harnessing Lavos energy? What about everyone looking the other way when it came to the Earthbound ones? The only ones I wouldn't lable gullable would be the Gurus and Schala...

Zeal also thought she could win against Crono & Co. *tisk tisk*

Not to mention, Magus is a master Shadow magic wielder...I think it all could have come into play...I mean, he knew pretty much everything that Janus would do and everything Janus would see...

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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2005, 08:51:14 am »
Here's some quotes from Zealians :
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  I heard a strange prophet has come to
   the palace.
   
   I don't know the details...but I heard he
   has uncanny powers.

This man only "heard" about him, so the Prophet might not be that famous actually.
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  The Queen's aide, Dalton, was in charge
   of the Ocean Palace, until some
   traveling prophet took over.
   
   He's in a bad mood so you should avoid
   him.

I don't know if the guy is referring to Dalton or the Prophet when he says he's in "a bad mood", but anyway, doesn't it imply the event is rather recent? If the Prophet had replaced Dalton for months, the NPC wouldn't say he's just in a "bad mood", but more something like he's "vengeful" or "he's still angry about it"...

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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2005, 01:21:07 pm »
O_o then it's quick work from magus.  he is not part of the zeal family for nothing.

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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2005, 02:24:10 pm »
You also have to remeber that time flows the same throught the game, so all the time Magus had to become the prophet was however much time it took for the group to defeat Azala and find the gate. Which couldn't have been much more than a week. The majority of the time would be taken up by them resting after Ayla found them up at the mountain.

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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2005, 04:10:28 pm »
yes, time flows the same, but that does not mean that he as transported to 12000BC.

Anyway about this gullible thing about Zeal:  sure, they though they could harness Lavos's power.  For practical purposes, Queen Zeal did.  They just plain didn't like the Earthbound people, so thats why they turned the other way.

I just find it unlikely Magus could get into the highest ranks in Zeal in a week, and get command of the Ocean Palace in a few days.

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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2005, 04:53:09 pm »
it's also possible that magus was there for a moment, but manage recently to access the high rank of prophet. thus it's explain Dalton sentence about him.

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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2005, 04:57:11 pm »
Don't forget that Janus accurately predicted the death of Crono before he was sent through the portal to become the Magus of the 600's.  If that isn't prophetic, then what is?

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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2005, 06:11:20 pm »
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Don't forget that Janus accurately predicted the death of Crono before he was sent through the portal to become the Magus of the 600's.  If that isn't prophetic, then what is?


He didn't predict that Crono was going to die, just that one of them would have. That was purely from feeling the black wind, and also knowing its association with death.

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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2005, 06:50:17 pm »
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He didn't predict that Crono was going to die, just that one of them would have. That was purely from feeling the black wind, and also knowing its association with death.


It was still a prediction none the less, so I don't see why there is a questioning of his prophetic powers.

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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2005, 07:16:08 pm »
The Blackwind isn't really a prophetic power. It is the negative energy that the whole Zeal family can feel. When anyone around them will die, they sence it...

Queen Zeal even says "A false prophet!" to Magus when Crono and gang are in that vortex with the Mammon Machine, and with Schala. This is the moment before Crono dies x.x

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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2005, 09:11:31 pm »
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The Blackwind isn't really a prophetic power. It is the negative energy that the whole Zeal family can feel. When anyone around them will die, they sence it...

Queen Zeal even says "A false prophet!" to Magus when Crono and gang are in that vortex with the Mammon Machine, and with Schala. This is the moment before Crono dies x.x


It does not always portray death, Magus sensed it before they fought at his castle, but no one dies there (or is supposed too, if you don't suck :) ). I have a feeling that certain people influence the wind, but who exactly I do not know.