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Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« on: December 01, 2008, 01:01:39 am »
so I've been playing New game + with Robo equipped with his Armageddon Arm and a Dragon Tear to boost critical hits. So far, he's ended fights with Slash and Flea, Masamune, Lavos (on several occasions), and even Ozzie sorta. (he no longer counterattacks and can't be selected as a target).    But most recently was the funniest.

   Magus and Frog have this long-winded dialogue before the fight with Magus... then as soon as the fight starts, I wait for Robo, select him, have him attack Magus, and he jumps on Magus with a FALCON PAWWWWNCH...     INSTANTLY ENDING THE FIGHT!

 Shortest. Magus fight. Ever.

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 01:18:09 am »
Falcon...  PUNCH!!!

EDIT: Got the game, got the stuff, pwned some bosses into Kingdom Come.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2009, 10:54:21 am by Shadow D. Darkman »

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 02:03:23 am »
I think it's called Apocalypse Arm?

But I think even if you equip Dragon's Tear, the critical rate is not high enough, you need a little luck.

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 04:15:08 pm »
 Actually it is high enough for me. You just need patience.

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 05:02:18 pm »
You get the same effect from Ayla's Bronzefist, if you have the pacience to level her up all the way up to the 90s. But, yeah. I have to try that sometime.

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 05:10:39 pm »
 now see that's something I'm still working on, so A. Arm carries me over until then (and then I have double the carnage!) And you know in CT DS, Ayla has an accessory made especially for her that boosts critical hit rates, so yay for me!!!   and you know... you guys who got the game...

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2008, 01:23:52 am »
I have Robo equipped with both the Apocalypse Arm and the Dragon's Tear, and he still doesn't do critical hits that often. Granted, more often than normal, but not by much.  :?

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2008, 01:57:11 am »
Keep him in your party, he's handy in boss fights.

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2008, 01:58:23 am »
Well, he did help me make quick work of Lavos's second form (the first one you fight inside him). One attack from Marle (with the Venus Bow) + two critical hits by Robo = victory

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 11:33:35 pm »
I have Robo equipped with both the Apocalypse Arm and the Dragon's Tear, and he still doesn't do critical hits that often. Granted, more often than normal, but not by much.  :?

Same here. I was like, "Apocalypse Arm plus Dragon Tear! Go!" Lackluster results. He crits every couple of fights, and then the novelty wears off.

Edit: I called it the "Armageddon Arm," too...
« Last Edit: December 06, 2008, 11:35:37 pm by Umaro »

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 01:16:03 am »
Dragon's Tear raises critical rate, but who have the exact data information?

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Each weapon has different critical rate, so maybe AA has a lower rate.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2008, 01:23:57 am by utunnels »

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 12:48:42 pm »
Yeah, if I recall, Ayla's Bronze Fist has a lot lower critical rate than her other fists... Her first four have steadily rising critical rates, and then at Bronze it shoots down to 30% or 40% or something... I imagine Apocalypse Arm has something like 20% or 30%. :/

Still incredibly useful, though. I actually ended the second Lavos form before I killed the arms... It was awesome. :D

How high does the Dragon Earring (Japanese name) raise critical hit percentage? I imagine it's something like 20%, maybe... Robo definitely doesn't critical as much as I expected him to. :/ The Dragon Earring does help though. I've ended multiple boss fights with it.

(Does anyone know how critical rates actually work? Do they raise with level too or something? o.O)

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 12:57:22 pm »

How high does the Dragon Earring (Japanese name) raise critical hit percentage? I imagine it's something like 20%, maybe... Robo definitely doesn't critical as much as I expected him to. :/ The Dragon Earring does help though. I've ended multiple boss fights with it.


I'm gonna' estimate 20% as well. I gave it to Crono with his Rainbow equipped, and he seemed to critical about 9 out of 10 times.
I didn't actually keep track. So don't quote me on it, but he was definitely hitting criticals almost 100% of the time. I should try giving him the Dragon Tear and the Dreamseeker and see if he can reach 100% crit rate. If he does, we know the Dragon Tear increases crit rate at least 10%.


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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2008, 01:01:44 pm »
(Does anyone know how critical rates actually work? Do they raise with level too or something? o.O)

Each weapon has a base critical rate(usuall not show), e.g., Dreamseeker has 90% which makes it extremely powerful.
Some weapons have poor values, e.g., Crisis Arm 5%...

Well, you can find them here: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Weapons_(Chrono_Trigger).html
« Last Edit: December 07, 2008, 01:04:51 pm by utunnels »

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Re: Armageddon arm and a Dragon tear = fun
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2008, 01:10:07 pm »
Yeah, I've looked at that page before. The Encyclopedia is full of good stuff. :) (I like the artwork, too)

It hasn't updated with the new CTDS stuff, though, so we still don't know the exact rates. :(