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Vehek

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #285 on: December 05, 2008, 05:45:31 pm »
Huh. Do the other party members ever say anything when meeting the Lucca and Marle shades? There's "I see two of Marle/Lucca!" dialog in the game text.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #286 on: December 05, 2008, 05:46:52 pm »
No, I don't think so. Actually I'm quite sure.

But how did you find that out? Did you hack the game?

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #287 on: December 05, 2008, 06:14:54 pm »
This is Lucca's Shade


Magus: This is--but, no!
Glenn: Another Lucca!
Robo: This is not possible!
Ayla: Two Lucca!?

Lucca: Who...who are you?
Are you really me?

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #288 on: December 05, 2008, 06:19:39 pm »
o.O This is getting rather weird... The other party members had no reactions whatsoever to the other two Shades. Very odd. o_o? Maybe it's only in the Japanese version? Hm. Is there any text for the Alabaster Shade? (Marle's)

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #289 on: December 05, 2008, 06:24:16 pm »
Is it possible that the party members have a reaction only to the first shade they encounter, but not the latter two? For example, if you fight Marle's shade first, does everyone remain silent for Crono's and Lucca's shades? I played in the order Crono-Marle-Lucca, but has anyone else played in a different order?

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #290 on: December 05, 2008, 06:28:04 pm »
I have a save just before fighting Dalton.  So I'll work on killing him, then do the other shades.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #291 on: December 05, 2008, 07:30:17 pm »
Maybe the clones are previous versions of Crono/Marle/Lucca that got shafted to the Darkness Beyond Time throughout their journey and they are pissed about that. Doubtful, I know, but I don't really see a reason or motive why a Crono from a different dimension would want to kill the party.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #292 on: December 05, 2008, 07:36:07 pm »
Pre-Marle's Shade
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Marle: I feel someone calling me.
I...I have to go.


Marle's Shade
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Frog: What trickery is this?
Ayla: Two Marle!?
Magus: This is--but, no!
Robo: I am seeing Marle Twice.

Lucca: What's going on?
Lucca: Marle?
Why are there two of you!?

Marle: Who are you?
Are you...me?



Lucca's Pre-Shade Text
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Magus: This is--but, no!
Glenn: Another Lucca!
Robo: This is not possible!
Ayla: Two Lucca!?

Lucca: Who...who are you?
Are you really me?


Lucca's Shade
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Robo: This is not possible!

Robo: Lucca and...Lucca?
My visual sensors must be producing duplicate images!

Lucca: Who...who are you?
Are you really me?

-enemy draws weapon, extermintator comes down and they all move-



Pre-Crono's Shade
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Ayla: What wrong, Crono?
Frog: Something beckons you?
Lucca: Is something wrong, Crono?
Marle: You feel like someone's...calling you?
Robo: Sir Crono, is somethign troubling you?
Robo: Something is calling you?
-Crono Nods-


Crono's Shade
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Frog: What trickery is this?
Frog: Whether you are a true Crono or no,
we'll not let you harm ours!

Lucca: What's going on?
Lucca: Don't think we'll go easy on you in a fight just because you're Crono!

Marle: Another Crono!?
Marle: Who are you!?
Why do you want to fight us?

Ayla: Two Crono!?
Ayla: You not Crono!
Crono no do like that!
Never do!

Magus: This is--but, no!
Magus: It is no consequence to me whether you
are Crono or a fake.  Raise your weapon against
me, and you sign away your life.

Robo: There is another Crono!
Robo: Identity analysis complete.
This is a different Crono from the one we know.
Hostility detected.


After Battle
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{Return}
{2-4 Tabs}Crono's latent powers awakened.
{1-3 Tabs}Speed, Strenght, and Accuracy improved!




Their text is pretty much exactly the same with maybe some slight differences.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #293 on: December 05, 2008, 08:11:30 pm »
Weird, but interesting... I wonder why the text doesn't appear in the US version? o.O Strange...

Interesting nonetheless, however. Thanks a ton for this, Justin!

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #294 on: December 05, 2008, 08:15:32 pm »
It might be, as FaustWolf suggested, that the other party members' reactions only show up for the first shade you fight.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #295 on: December 05, 2008, 08:19:59 pm »
Hm, that seems like the most plausible answer, but that's still strange. o.O I wonder why the developers chose to do that? They should have kept the text for all the Shades. :(

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #296 on: December 05, 2008, 08:35:00 pm »
Wouldn't it get kind of redundant? Aside from the characters' reactions to seeing themselves (like Lucca seeing her clone specifically), the reactions aren't all that different...

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #297 on: December 06, 2008, 12:25:38 am »
If you go to 1000 A.D. Time Vortex without Crono, you can fight Dalton, but you can't proceed because of Crono's absence.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #298 on: December 06, 2008, 12:43:05 am »
The text appeared in all three shades I fought. I remember because I defeated Dalton but was not aware you could go any further. Then I went through the other two and found out you can. I fought Marle, then Lucca, then Crono. All three had something to say.

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Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)
« Reply #299 on: December 06, 2008, 12:59:04 am »
I can't see how Home World would remain, as that is the dimension where the world is eventually destroyed by Lavos. I guess the base was Another World, and some things from Home World were thrown into that. Like Serge surviving for example. But I don't think it would erase events that happened outside of El Nido, for some reason.
Schala said 'unified', so that means the new world is neither home world or anothers world,.

I used to have another question: Time was divided since 1010(and some events were differed since then, like the man gave up to be a fisherman, the girl gave up to became a poet), does that mean these two world were the same before 1010?
But since the trio failed to defeat Lavos in home world, which(their time travel) was an event before 1010, so the hypothesis doesn't explain it at ll.

So I have a feeling that another world is not based on 'fall of Gardia' time line, when Time was divided, something might be changed.

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