Hate the United States

[grey_the_angel]

Should the law have ultimate power? For example, if you have nothing to hide, then why not be forced to give a DNA sample, unless of course they need blood and for some reason you can't give it. I dunno. There are a lot of cases in which you think, police should have more powers.

But that's not my total view, though. It's a really topsy turvey topic.

a state wear law is king usually decends into ruins...  *points out most facist, national socialist, commie goverments, roman empire.... * god damn... but at the same time, since Al queda is an extremist group who's BEEN PULLING THIS SHIT FOR YEARS, people are idiodic enough to believe this crap only happened now cause of TV, and gladly allow abuse of the judical system. Bush, up to this point, has overabused his powers and needs to be expulleged and replace. hell... him conde, and dick need to be indited and forced into a resignation. They've pretty much fucked the country into another war over bullshit.

[Burning Zeppelin]

The Liquid Bomb threat was really hyped up in the media. Foiling bomb attempts happen all the time.

[grey_the_angel]

The Liquid Bomb threat was really hyped up in the media. Foiling bomb attempts happen all the time.

don't forget all the shouts of WW3 going out. dude... we have 102 nukes, each one dubbed "world destorers class." that means each missle is a multitip warhead which brakes into 5 different nukes. We have also developed a bomb that will not destroy the surrounding area, but erridcates all organics (minus plants, oddly enough) in a 25 mile radius (costed us 1 billion to make 1.). you attack us, you blow up THE WORLD. literally.

No one is stupid enough, not even china with it's massive ass army, to piss off the one country where the idea unification of races and cultures is attempted.

essentially, the reason most states hate us is because we've emassed so much damn controll in such a short time. We are litterally the youngest state to ever amass superpower status since the romans and have a standard of living. We basically kick ass, and everybody hates us for it.

[Magus068]

We have also developed a bomb that will not destroy the surrounding area, but erridcates all organics (minus plants, oddly enough) in a 25 mile radius (costed us 1 billion to make 1.). you attack us, you blow up THE WORLD. literally.

Neutron bombs are far more deadlier than any conventional nukes.  Anyway Radical Islamists hates America simply because it "corrupts the Islamic way of Life."  If they hate western cultures & technology so much why don't they stop using western products & close their door to the outside world & stay retarded!

Another reason why they hate America is because the Americans allied with the Zionist & the oppression of the Islamic nations or its people(or so as they say.)

So I'm not surprise that the Bush Administration stoop that low wiretapping everyone's phone just for sake of national safety.  We all know that Wiretapping is unconstitutional but Bush did that anyway without the consent of the congress.

[Burning Zeppelin]

How do you know the use Western products?
Neutron bombs don't destroy infrastructure.

[Magus068]

How do you know the use Western products?
Neutron bombs don't destroy infrastructure.

Some people are bunch of hypocrites. They hate something but a the same time they like something from the latter.
Example, some people hates America but they use American products for their everyday lives.

Neutron bombs do little or no damage to infrastructure but it will desolate the entire area for hundreds of years. Unlike Nukes, Neutrons bomb gives of huge amounts of radiation compare to the latter.

[Burning Zeppelin]

Nuclear bombs are pretty dangerous too.

It is hard not to buy something American. America and China dominate the markets, and I really recommend Australians to buy Australian products, because it helps the people in the country. And yes, I know people are hypocrites. But why did you bring up radical Muslim's? Are you just assuming they use American products? Well, they probably do. The only people that didn't were probably Soviets.

I dislike America and it's capitalist ethics, but even so, I use their products. If that makes me a hypocrite, then I guess I am. But I don't think I am one.

[Magus068]

I'm not implying you since you're not a radical muslim(well I assumed that you aren't.)  I'm talking about muslims who kills people out of religious fervor than to live in harmony. Hopefully that they change their way & live in a harmonious life than hateful & destructive tendancy.

Where I came from, there are lots people who hates America but still use their products & one of them is the one I mentioned earlier.

[Burning Zeppelin]

Well, many people use American products because they have to to live a reasonable live.
And don't worry, I didn't think you were calling me a radical.

[grey_the_angel]

Well, many people use American products because they have to to live a reasonable live.
And don't worry, I didn't think you were calling me a radical.

interesting little fact: 60% of US cash? not in the US.

why bother calling us assholes then using our cash to pay for everything?

Osama bin laden: AMERICANS ARE ALL ASSHOLES!... incendently, can I borrow 20 bucks?

[Burning Zeppelin]

What the fuck are you going on about? I'm not talking about US cash. I'm not even sure that Osama Bin Laden uses US Cash. And if he was, it was probably because only US cash was accepted at the place of purchasing whatever that fuck her needed to buy so badly that he couldn't buy it in wherever he is currency's.

[ChibiBob]

Now now, boys, no starting arguments unless they're over me. Gray, nobody called Americans assholes, although granted, it's usually implied when someone from outside the US mentions anything about us. People simply dislike America for its capitalist ethics (or lack thereof), and I agree wholeheartedly with them. Just because I live in this country doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything that goes on both within and without our borders, and I'm sure many others feel the same way. However, you're never going to find a place completely without American influence; hell, even the Moon has our flag stuck up its ass.

But I'm really trying to see just what exactly this has to do with wiretapping. Perhaps make a separate topic bitching about the US? I'm sure it would get more attention than leeching off an entirely different matter.

[grey_the_angel]

What the fuck are you going on about? I'm not talking about US cash. I'm not even sure that Osama Bin Laden uses US Cash. And if he was, it was probably because only US cash was accepted at the place of purchasing whatever that fuck her needed to buy so badly that he couldn't buy it in wherever he is currency's.

actually, everybody uses US cash. the reason? one of the most secure forms of currency ever.

60% of all cash is OUTSIDE the us. means we do not have it on our soil. it's literally in other countries. osama uses it. we know this because before Osama decided to fuck with people (africa terror bombings.) , he had a us account. it's since been frozen.

[ChibiBob]

actually, everybody uses US cash. the reason? one of the most secure forms of currency ever.

Good point, except for two slightly nagging details:
1. If everybody used US cash, there would be no point to the yen, or the euro, or the pound, or anything else for that matter, and yet you still see those currencies in use, and
2. Yes, it might be secure compared to, say, 1945 Germany, but today American currency is probably the worst money to own considering its value has fluctuated widely under Dubbya's government, with most of those fluctuations being of the tanking and/or sucking variety.

Yes, Osama had a bank account in the US. However, that doesn't mean all his assets were in dollar form. Considering all the attacks that have occured lately under the banner of Al Qaeda, it's pretty obvious most of his financial means come from other accounts and/or caves in other nations. And another small point: Zeppelin wasn't talking about using American currency. He was talking about using American products. Our monetary system is limited entirely to the United States and its overworked, underpaid military-issue machine gun fodder Guam, but American-based products are sold all across the world. After all, just because it says "Made in China" on the paddleball you got ten years ago doesn't mean that some capitalist giant wasn't cracking whips to speed up production and ensure the mortgage on his summer villa off the coast of insert-tourist-trap-island-nation-here was paid in time for the after-Christmas economy slump.

[grey_the_angel]

actually, everybody uses US cash. the reason? one of the most secure forms of currency ever.

Good point, except for two slightly nagging details:
1. If everybody used US cash, there would be no point to the yen, or the euro, or the pound, or anything else for that matter, and yet you still see those currencies in use, and
2. Yes, it might be secure compared to, say, 1945 Germany, but today American currency is probably the worst money to own considering its value has fluctuated widely under Dubbya's government, with most of those fluctuations being of the tanking and/or sucking variety.

Yes, Osama had a bank account in the US. However, that doesn't mean all his assets were in dollar form. Considering all the attacks that have occured lately under the banner of Al Qaeda, it's pretty obvious most of his financial means come from other accounts and/or caves in other nations. And another small point: Zeppelin wasn't talking about using American currency. He was talking about using American products. Our monetary system is limited entirely to the United States and its overworked, underpaid military-issue machine gun fodder Guam, but American-based products are sold all across the world. After all, just because it says "Made in China" on the paddleball you got ten years ago doesn't mean that some capitalist giant wasn't cracking whips to speed up production and ensure the mortgage on his summer villa off the coast of insert-tourist-trap-island-nation-here was paid in time for the after-Christmas economy slump.

two things:
1.) "dubbya" does not have cash control. al... something had cash control, until he announced retirement a while back. one of the previous presidents took control of monetary assests outside of presidental control, so thusly, Bush doesn't actually affect jack shit unless he fucks up some company politically, people just think he does.

2.)US cash is the one of the most secure money systems in the world. its used world wide for its security systems, and is infact, used in a lot of over seas transactions for this reason.  your confusing security with WORTH: The US dollar is still worth quite a lot when compared to other countries. Its not tanking or sucking. That's the response of someone who doesn't watch the market at all. if you wanna know how much a dollar is worth, open your newpaper to the stock exchange. they have its current value along with gold, platinum and silver