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The origin of Schala's Pendant
« on: July 08, 2006, 05:09:46 am »
We all know how the pendant works but how is it made? What method of crafting that gives the Pendant such incredible power?  The dreamstone alone couldn't possibly give it the abilty to rewind time or opening a time gate.

I want your opinion and theories to resolve this mystery...

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2006, 06:43:25 am »
Melchior made it with the ruby knife and Mammon Machine. Exposure to the Mammon Machine may have changed the pendant to give it such power, that or Melchior directly took the pendant from a part of the Mammon Machine once it had already been made.

Anyway, the pendant was charged up and such, and allowed Schala to possibly amplify her power, besides controlling the Mammon Machine (without being the arbiter, but in RD she still was the arbiter, probably with the pendant too).

Anyway, since Schala uses the last of the pendants power to send Crono's gang away from the ocean palace, it should have no power, but even in the DBT, Schala was said to have used it's power to send Kid out of the DBT, but Schala herself was able to open a gate through time. So the power itself may reflect on Schala.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2006, 10:09:19 am »
Melchior made it with the ruby knife and Mammon Machine. Exposure to the Mammon Machine may have changed the pendant to give it such power, that or Melchior directly took the pendant from a part of the Mammon Machine once it had already been made.

Anyway, the pendant was charged up and such, and allowed Schala to possibly amplify her power, besides controlling the Mammon Machine (without being the arbiter, but in RD she still was the arbiter, probably with the pendant too).

Anyway, since Schala uses the last of the pendants power to send Crono's gang away from the ocean palace, it should have no power, but even in the DBT, Schala was said to have used it's power to send Kid out of the DBT, but Schala herself was able to open a gate through time. So the power itself may reflect on Schala.

She could of probably drawn some strength from the Lavoid side of the Time Devourer. Lavos is capable of opening gates, but Schala does not appear to be capable of opening gates originally. Teleporting a small group of people and sealing gates is one thing, but tearing a seam through time and space? You're making her equal to the Entity, which, fanboyism aside, is a bit too much.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2006, 10:56:54 am »
Yep, the Entity really is just the conscience of the Planet, it's not a God or something all-powerful.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2006, 11:30:43 am »
Sorry, but the Entity is gay.

It used Crono and co to do what it wanted, then had Belthasar save it again. In the end, the entity is controlling Belthasar, since he's just a part of it's dream. Besides, the Entity is a panzy.

Anyway, it was stated that Schala caused everything to happen, not Lavos. Remember, Lavos is almost dead. He's clinging onto Schala for life, so that means hes depending on her life force. So he binded her, and started merging. She heard Serge's cries and wanted to free herself from Lavos. This attempt of trying to escape Lavos ended up with her tearing a rip in time, trying to escape the DBT, but all she could do was create Kid, send her out into time, and unleash the storm above Chronopolis, and send Serge/Wazuki/Miguel all to Chronopolis. She probably sent them home too, how else would they get past the coral.


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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2006, 04:58:18 pm »
[very stupid comment left out]
It used Crono and co to do what it wanted, then had Belthasar save it again. In the end, the entity is controlling Belthasar, since he's just a part of it's dream. Besides, the Entity is a panzy.

Anyway, it was stated that Schala caused everything to happen, not Lavos. Remember, Lavos is almost dead. He's clinging onto Schala for life, so that means hes depending on her life force. So he binded her, and started merging. She heard Serge's cries and wanted to free herself from Lavos. This attempt of trying to escape Lavos ended up with her tearing a rip in time, trying to escape the DBT, but all she could do was create Kid, send her out into time, and unleash the storm above Chronopolis, and send Serge/Wazuki/Miguel all to Chronopolis. She probably sent them home too, how else would they get past the coral.

Only the Entity can know that much about itself  :lee:
Zaperking=Entity  :jiraiya:

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2006, 07:37:18 pm »
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Sorry, but the Entity is gay.

It used Crono and co to do what it wanted, then had Belthasar save it again. In the end, the entity is controlling Belthasar, since he's just a part of it's dream. Besides, the Entity is a panzy.

Anyway, it was stated that Schala caused everything to happen, not Lavos. Remember, Lavos is almost dead. He's clinging onto Schala for life, so that means hes depending on her life force. So he binded her, and started merging. She heard Serge's cries and wanted to free herself from Lavos. This attempt of trying to escape Lavos ended up with her tearing a rip in time, trying to escape the DBT, but all she could do was create Kid, send her out into time, and unleash the storm above Chronopolis, and send Serge/Wazuki/Miguel all to Chronopolis. She probably sent them home too, how else would they get past the coral.

The Entity isn't controlling anybody, and you're obviously misinterpreting the dream metaphor. Anyway, it wasn't that Schala caused everything to happen. It's stated that she made Serge the Arbiter. All Schala really did was cause a storm, create Kid, and manipulate the Frozen Flame.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2006, 08:01:21 pm »
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Sorry, but the Entity is gay.

It used Crono and co to do what it wanted, then had Belthasar save it again. In the end, the entity is controlling Belthasar, since he's just a part of it's dream. Besides, the Entity is a panzy.

Anyway, it was stated that Schala caused everything to happen, not Lavos. Remember, Lavos is almost dead. He's clinging onto Schala for life, so that means hes depending on her life force. So he binded her, and started merging. She heard Serge's cries and wanted to free herself from Lavos. This attempt of trying to escape Lavos ended up with her tearing a rip in time, trying to escape the DBT, but all she could do was create Kid, send her out into time, and unleash the storm above Chronopolis, and send Serge/Wazuki/Miguel all to Chronopolis. She probably sent them home too, how else would they get past the coral.

The Entity isn't controlling anybody, and you're obviously misinterpreting the dream metaphor. Anyway, it wasn't that Schala caused everything to happen. It's stated that she made Serge the Arbiter. All Schala really did was cause a storm, create Kid, and manipulate the Frozen Flame.

I don't remember it stating that she made Serge an arbiter. It was just something that happened because the only way to have healed him was through the flame, and by touching it, Serge became the arbiter. But I guess since the flame is said to burn all those who get in contact with it, Schala may have lowered that barrier or whatever.
Also, I didn't say she did everything. I was saying the greatest things that she did, that kind of prove that Schala in CC is way more powerful than in CT.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2006, 08:05:07 am »
When did the Frozen Flame burn anything?

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2006, 08:53:51 am »
When did the Frozen Flame burn anything?

Just from what the game states. Like how Wazuki went insane from being to close to it, like how the flame froze Lynx, and the Acacia Dragoons in the Dead Sea etc. And all those other quotes relating to the flame staring back at you, and playing with the flame, and you'll get burnt etc. Some metaphorical, and some literal.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2006, 09:03:39 am »
When did the Frozen Flame burn anything?

Just from what the game states. Like how Wazuki went insane from being to close to it, like how the flame froze Lynx, and the Acacia Dragoons in the Dead Sea etc. And all those other quotes relating to the flame staring back at you, and playing with the flame, and you'll get burnt etc. Some metaphorical, and some literal.
Wazuki went insane (because of fear) and the Dragoons were frozen, they didn't get burn. The Flame freezing Lynx is pure assumption, he's nowhere to be seen in the Dead Sea. The quote about the Flame staring at you etc. is just fake legend from Steena and Direa. These 2 characters also stated that the Dragon God was the good guy and FATE the evil...

Serge touched the Flame and became the Arbiter because he was prone to being so. That's all, no need to lower a defense or something (besides Chronopolis' defense of course).

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2006, 04:01:15 pm »
These 2 characters also stated that the Dragon God was the good guy and FATE the evil...

But the Dragon God wasn't the good guy. We were told it was to begin with, then we gave it what it wanted and at the right opportunity, wanted revenge on Chronopolis. It was then the bad guy. So was FATE really the good guys then?

I was confused at first, still am. After all the events, FATE was the good, right? Then why did Lynx want to kill Serge?

Did Direa and Steena really know what was up? They did help Serge regain his true form, but did they really know what was good from evil as opposed to the Dragon God and FATE?

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2006, 06:47:43 pm »
Actually, you can't call the Dragon God evil.

You can't blame the Dragon God for revenge. FATE sealed it, which allowed the TD to absorb it's body. What more satisfaction would you get if you destroyed this fake goddess of the humans. After all, the Dragon God's mission is to destroy these humans, that the retard planet is saying it wants gone.

Steena and Direa may not know exactally, but after all, the Dragon God is the biological incarnation of the planet's power. Hence, the Dragon God would be closer to the planet than anyone. Also, this relates back to the demi-humans and Dragonians. They both worship the same God, except the Dragonians actually use it.

Also, don't you forget that FATE was evil too, killing people, not to protect the humans, but to achieve it's goal of creating it's own species.
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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2006, 07:47:23 am »
The point isn't that A is evil or not and B is or not. The point is that Steena and Direa didn't know what they were talking about, and with their statement being false the result is that it's stated nowhere that the Frozen Flame burns people.

As for the Dragon God, it's dead since aeons ago. We never see it in the game, only the spectre made by the Time Devourer. The "Time Devourer", as it's called on Terra Tower, is as close to the planet as Lavos was. Even Razzly and the Marbule Sage are shown to be more in tune with the planet than this Time Devourer.

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Re: The origin of Schala's Pendant
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2006, 10:28:48 am »
Most legends are often exagerated but there are some seeds of truth in it.