I think it's time to work on the Techs

[Kyronea]

NICE! Well done, justin! Does this mean we can now create new techs at will?

[justin3009]

I think so.  There's only one thing though that kinda troubles me.  Idk if it's because 2 people have Ice or not but w/e, Marle's AND Crono's Ice HAVE to have the same data, otherwise Crono's will not function properly.

[Kyronea]

Hmm...well, I suppose the only way to find out if we can create new techs or not is for someone to try it out...if we can this will mean wonders for the Chrono ROM hacking community, especially if such editing can eventually be integrated into Temporal Flux.

[justin3009]

Ya.  I'm going to edit this post to the better version of Crono's Ice, where he actually performs it correctly -_-...

Edit: http://www.savefile.com/files/624609 - There we go.  It's to big to be uploaded on here by like 50KB but anyways...Crono and Marle basically do the same thing, except IDK why, but the video recording software cut out the last part of Marle's Ice...w/e

[Chrono'99]

Actually the first version seems to be better; the second one has the correct animation, but doesn't it cause instant death? The damage number doesn't appear in the video yet the mushroom died.

Anyway, all this is fantastic. Good work

[Geiger]

Now get Crono to use an enemy effect and I'll be sold. 

---T.Geiger

[justin3009]

Your in luck!  I just did =)

Uploaded: Fire Sword Beta?

http://www.savefile.com/files/626136 - Crono using Evil Star =)
Gotta go to school now so i'll probably post more later tonight ^_^

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[Zakyrus]

Very impressive.

Please, tell me that you are going to write a tutorial on how to do this. 

[justin3009]

I will...eventually >_> (Yay 3rd hour computer programming)

[Zakyrus]

I will...eventually >_> (Yay 3rd hour computer programming)

Programming class. Ah, the nostalgia.

That's cool, take your time writing that. Better for you to relax and slow down than to rush and lose motivation.

Also, any chance that you would be able to change what the item specials do? Like change "random chaos" to "random Dark Matter" or something like that? That would be dope if it could be pulled off.

[justin3009]

I think it's possible.  But I'd have to locate the stuff in Geiger's SNES9x Debugger because apparently that seems to be the base for half of the techs.  ALSO!

PS: The stuff in geiger's snes9x debugger, the cd45ed or w/e the spot is, is the graphics for all of the techs and how they perform.  So, it probably is possible to have completely swapped techs, except some of them have more data then others, so probably not all of them can be swapped.  So i'm guessing that in TranslHextion that the stuff in there is what animation that the heroes do, what SFX, and where they are to start off the tech and who's involved.  So apparently there's like 2-3 different things you have to edit to get custom techs.

Edit: Lightning's starts at CD45C1.  I use that one as a tester.

[justin3009]

Double Post!!  Update on all the tech stuff

Tech graphics in hex editing using Geiger's SNES9X Debugger
-----------------------------------------------------------

00 - Anitopode 2
01 - Luminare
02 - Lightning 2
03 - Aura Whirl
04 - Hexagon Mist
05 - Blue circle thing
06 - Twister?
07 - Hypnowave
08 - Black Hole
09 - ???
0A - Area Bomb?
0B - Weird White Triangle
0C - ???
0D - Flare
0E - Dino Tail
0F - Antipode 1
10 - ???
11 - ???
12 - Ice Square Block thing
13 - Dreamers something (Forgot full tech name)
14 - ???
15 - Triple Ring thing
16 - Rocket Roll
17 - Water rising
18 - Triple elemental thing
19 - Area Bomb?
1A - Cure or something
1B - 3D Attack (I think)
1C - Fire 2
1D - Life/Life 2
1E - Dark Matter
1F - MP Buster
20 - Bomb thing
21 - Dark Bomb
22 - Dual Shock
23 - ???
24 - ???
25 - ???
26 - Frog Flare
27 - Plasma Attack or something
28 - Cure thing
29 - Weird lightning effects
2A - Weird Blue Triangle
2B - Buuurrpppp
2C - Strange ass lightning
2D - Water Sand thing
2E - Golem Teleport?
2F - Broken Dark Mist?
30 - ???
31 - Part 2 of 2D
32 - Water 2
33 - White bomb thingy
34 - ???
35 - Life/Life 2
36 - Dual Twister Thingy
37 - ???
38 - Boss Death (Lawl)
39 - Cure Thing
3A - Buuurrpppp
3B - Screen filled with [1]'s
3C - Twister thing
3D - Lighting effects
3E - Wtf? Lightning thing
3F - Doom thing from Lavos
40 - SUPER BOSS DEATH XD
41 - Frog Squash
42 - Nothing
43 - Antipode 2 effect
44 - Ice 1
45 - Lightning
46 - ???
47 - Delta Storm
48 - Dual Shock
49 - Bomb thing
4A - Bomb thing
4B - Bomb thing AGAIN
4C - BLUE BOMB THING!
4D - Wth?!  SERIOUSLY?! BLUE BOMB THING! AGAIN!
4E - -sigh-...Blue bomb again
4F - Red Circle Bomb
50 - Red Circle Bomb Again
51 - Red Circle thingy again
52 - Blue Circle
53 - Blue circle again
54 - Bet you can guess what it is...
55 - Bomb with bubble affects
56 - Haste effects
57 - Ice 2
58 - Cure Things
59 - Another Cure Thing
5A - ???
5B - Life/Life 2
5C - ???
5D - ???
5E - uh...Black circle thing
5F - Spire Effects
60 - Water Cyclone thing
61 - Laser thing
62 - Lavos Bit Attacks (WHen he's in shell form)
63 - ???
64 - 2x Small dark matters collide and make a fire explosion
65 - Doom Blaze that Lavos uses
66 - Part of Antipode 3
67 - 3 laser beam things..
68 - Rock Telekenesis
69 - Ice 1
6A - Ring of Hearts o.O
6B - Part of ICe 2
6C - Indentation on ground O_o
6D - ???
6E - Hypnowave
6F - Poison Gas?
70 - Bbbbuurrrpp
71 - Wth?  Red Ice?
72 - Lightning Effects
73 - Crying of the Heavens
74 - What the flying hell?  weird ass rainbow flowing stuff AKA Rainbow Sorbet
75 - Evil Star
76 - Blue background thing
77 - Load of bomb explosions
78 - Rock Telekenesis (Big white rock thing)
79 - Wavering Fire Effects
7A - ???
7B - Teleportation (Prehistoric)
7C - Teleportation (Millenial fair)
7D - Teleportation (2300 AD)
7E - Teleportation (Mammon Machine)
7F - Teleportation (Ocean Palace)
80 - Sand Cyclone
81 - ???
82 - O_O...Weird laser SFX then back to normal
83 - Laser Effects
84 - Nothing
85 - Nothing
86 - Run Away
87 - Fade to white
88 - Spacey Background
89 - Spacey background
8A - Spacey background
8B - 9A - Freezes Game

By Justin3009(AKA Shishisenkou) Tuesday, April 10, 2007

[Zakyrus]

Very impressive. 
I hope we are getting closer and closer to a tech editor.

[LegacyCrono]

Nice...! I'm going to give it a try! 
I've found a odd thing... Both 7A and 78 are used for sound, but if you change one for another it won't work. 

SEE YA!!!!!

[justin3009]

Ya.  It tends to do that.  If you change one byte before the sound, it kills it, or could even change the sound.  It's really confusing.

Anyways, this isn't part of the techs but here's something I did out of boredom today.

Crono - A2 CB C8 C7 C8
Marle - AC BA CB C5 BE
Lucca - AB CE BC BC BA
Robo - B1 C8 BB C8
Frog - A5 CB C8 C0
Ayla - A0 D2 C5 BA
Magus - AC BA C0 CE CC
Epoch - A4 C9 C8 BC C1

Capital Letters

80+ = Japanese?
A0 - A
A1 - B
A2 - C
A3 - D
A4 - E
A5 - F
A6 - G
A7 - H
A8 - I
A9 - J
AA - K
AB - L
AC - M
AD - N
AE - O
AF - P
B0 - Q
B1 - R
B2 - S
B3 - T
B4 - U
B5 - V
B6 - W
B7 - X
B8 - Y
B9 - Z




Lower Case Letters

BA - a
BB - b
BC - c
BD - d
BE - e
Bf - f
C0 - g
C1 - h
C2 - i
C3 - j
C4 - k
C5 - l
C6 - m
C7 - n
C8 - o
C9 - p
CA - q
CB - r
CC - s
CD - t
CE - u
CF - v
D0 - w
D1 - x
D2 - y
D3 – z

Numbers

D4 - 0
D5 - 1
D6 - 2
D7 - 3
D8 - 4
D9 - 5
DA - 6
DB - 7
DC - 8
DD – 9

Grammatical stuff

DE - !
DF - ?
E0 - /
E1 - ``
E2 - `` (going left)
E3 - :
Random Symbols

E4 - % (la in my hack)
E5 - (
E6 - )
E7 - '

Grammatical

E8 - .
E9 - ,

Random

EA - =
EB - -
EC - +
ED - \ (ie in my hack)
EE - #
EF - Japanese
F0 - small o
F1 - Bolded A
F2 - #
F3 - #
F4 - Shorter Capital L
F5 - Rl
F6 - Japanese
F7 - Japanese
F8 - Japanese
F9 -  Japanese
FA - Japanese
FB - ( (oddly shaped)
FC - ) (Oddly Shaped)
FD - Bracket
FE - ??
FF -