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Did FATE even care about Home World?

Was it only concerned about Another World's future?

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I just thought of something:

Home World's Kid and Harle are unaccounted for.

Where are they?

Do they exist?

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Lucca vs Lynx
« on: June 06, 2005, 12:12:54 am »
Is there any remote chance that Luccia herself could really be Lucca? Perhaps she is working undercover (for investigation purposes and for the safety of her own life), and she is closely watching Porre's military actions and advancements in technology. Not to mention, she could also be secretly keeping an eye on Kid, waiting for the right time to give her  the letter that Lucca wrote to Kid (so she claims; the letter was actually written by her).

I mean if Miguel could be Crono, why couldn't Luccia be Lucca?


Note: I'm sorry that I keep bringing up all of these characters in Chrono Cross and proposing that they could have some connection with characters in Chrono Trigger.

Like:

Miguel = Crono
Luccia = Lucca
Serge = Janus
Marle = (Any ideas?) :) *Seriously*

I think I just want the important characters of Chrono Trigger to have some behind-the-scenes roles in Chrono Cross, thus making Chrono Cross more complex than what it already is.  :wink:

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I have noticed that Home World had very different outcomes related to Porre's occupation of El Nido. Home World's current situation between the Porrean and El Nido governments could have lead to a very significant change in history. Could this have been a factor in Home World's destruction?


Also, does anybody know if FATE had any control over Home World? If so, why didn't FATE try to fix Home World's future?

One more thing. Can someone explain to me why the Dead Sea was filled with a variety of different time peroids all smashed together into one chaotic mess?

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If Sentenal's theory is correct, then it seems to me that it really wasn't Serge's fault that Home World's future was doomed. Kid is the one that saved him and split the dimensions. However, you could say that the whole "destruction of the world" thing was really Belthasar's fault, seeing as how he is the one that created Project Kid, and guided every event that occured.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Serge = Janus Theory
« on: June 05, 2005, 03:45:48 pm »
I have just always felt that Serge was supposed to be a much more important character than the way he was presented.

It seems to me that the script suggests that he has a personal connection with Kid/Schala.

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By becoming the Flame's Arbiter and linking directly to it, Serge ensured its recovery by Home World's corporeal Lavos.


Interesting point, Hadriel.  :)


I have always felt that the concept of Serge being the Arbiter of the Frozen Flame was supposed to be much more important than the way it has been portrayed.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Serge = Janus Theory
« on: June 05, 2005, 03:09:07 am »
Well, does anybody see any real potential in this theory?

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What was it that would draw Schala's attention to Serge of all things? While off in the Tesseract and getting mixed up with Lavos and filled with despair in this whole crazy bizarre situation, why would she suddenly decide to focus on some random kid who she'd never met, and never had anything to do with? Why not have her thoughts be drawn across time to, oh, I don't know, Janus instead? The person she was closest to when all that shit went down?


That was an example I used to try to prove that Serge could have been somehow directly linked with Janus.

Schala heard the crying of her young brother across time, and was compelled to rescue him.  8)

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Does anybody think that an article should be created explaining exactly how Serge was the Key to the World's Destruction?

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Okay, that makes sense, but I still don't understand something:
Why is the Dead Sea filled with a variety of different time periods that have been smashed together?


Back on topic, here is a theory about how Serge was responsible for the world's destruction. Could his direct contact with the Frozen Flame, which would mean he technically made contact with Lavos, have contributed to him being the Assassin of Time? He became the Arbiter of the Frozen Flame, and nobody else, including FATE, could access the Flame except Serge. FATE was trying to preserve history, and not to mention, its own existance. If FATE couldn't access the Flame and have complete control of what was going on in Chronopolis and El Nido, then something drastic could occur, which could eventually lead to negating Crono's victory over Lavos. If FATE couldn't bring Serge to Chronopolis to access the Frozen Flame, then history would have been at great risk of being drastically altered.

There is a problem with this theory, though. Serge came into contact with the Frozen Flame in the year 1006 A.D. The split in the dimensions occurred in 1010 A.D. This means that both Home World's Serge and Another World's Serge had already become the Arbiters of the Flame. FATE wouldn't have been able to prevent Serge's contact with the Flame. Basically, both worlds were doomed, unless FATE could figure something out. And FATE did figure something out. If Home World's Serge was alive, then FATE could still have a chance to gain access to the Flame. Another World's Serge was dead, and FATE couldn't gain access to the Flame unless it could bring Home World's Serge to Another World and use that Serge to gain access to the Flame.

As good as this all sounds, there is still one more problem. Serge eventually destroys FATE. Well, what happens after that? Are the citizens of El Nido free to do as they please? Is Another World's future still at stake, not to mention Home World's future? Is there a possibility that Chronopolis's future could eventually cease to exist? Or maybe Lavos is still eventually destroyed anyway, and everything proceeds normally. But if this is so, then why couldn't Home World's future proceed normally without FATE, just like Another World's future could proceed normally without FATE? Why does the Dead Sea still exist in Home World?

By the way, here is something interesting I would like to bring up. In Russian, Serge means "servant". If Serge did indeed make some kind of connection with Lavos through the Frozen Flame, then could Lavos, working by means of the Frozen Flame, have "used" Serge in such a way that he sealed his own victory against Crono? This would mean that Serge was, quite literally, the "Servant of Lavos".

Note: I think I may have confused myself writing this whole theory, so hopefully someone can figure out what I am trying to say. <_<


P.S. This is completely obscure and has nothing to do with my above post, or the topic for that matter, but I think it is rather amusing.  :)

El Nido is Spanish for "The Cradle". El Nido was supposedly where the origin of all life began (the Sea of Eden), thus it is the Cradle of Civilization. But remember that saying: "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"? Well, who was the hand that governed El Nido, the Cradle? Answer: FATE.  8)

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Kajar Laboratories / Entity Article/Definition
« on: June 04, 2005, 08:00:29 pm »
Is this article nearing completion?

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I had thought of something similar to that.  :wink:

But if this is true, then what is the significance of Home World's Sea of Eden/Dead Sea? Why does it look the way it does?

Also, does anybody else have a different theory?


P.S. Why do some people say that the Sea of Eden and the Dead Sea are actually 10,000 years in the future: within the year 11020 A.D? When does the script ever mention this?

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How exactly does Serge bring about the destruction of the world?

How is he a Chrono Trigger?

Please give a detailed explanation.

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General Discussion / Chrono FMV's
« on: June 02, 2005, 07:16:44 pm »
Thanks, Eggith Cyrene! ^_^

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