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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Radical Dreamers script query
« on: September 12, 2007, 01:43:46 am »
I was looking through the script of Radical Dreamers and noticed a few bits that I never got in the game before... Can someone confirm if these lines happen in the game, or if they're just extra dialogue?
Curious because, well... This sort of makes Magus/Lucca CANON.
Quote
"Heh, heh, heh... just as I suspected. I had a feeling you would come," the
old woman cackles, quivering.
...?
Kid and I glance at one another, wonder if she's just playing with us, or
not...
"What're ya talkin' about?"
"Oh, it's already been four or five years, I would gather. Master Lynx had
sent for a certain young lady... a very special young lady, you might say."
"This woman, owner of powerful mental and magical abilities, was the object
of Master Lynx's attention for quite some time..."
Magil turns his head away, hastily interrupting the old lady's speech.
"Quiet!" he barks.
"Ah, I apologize. How easily I forget the situation between you two..."
"Which two? Who are you talking about?"
"Oh, I won't bore you with details, young man..."
"But..."
"Ah, you seem to have a bit of a scrape, there. Won't you let me have a look
at it?"
Curious because, well... This sort of makes Magus/Lucca CANON.
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General Discussion / Re: Never Forget...
« on: September 11, 2007, 12:20:12 pm »
Are 9/11 jokes okay yet?
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Other Topics and the Prerelease / Re: Hidden Pic In Chrono Cross
« on: September 09, 2007, 01:39:55 am »
Anyone have a pic of the statue it might be?
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History, Locations, and Artifacts / Re: The Summoning Circle in Magus's Castle
« on: September 09, 2007, 01:13:45 am »
It's split into four pieces to reflect the four types of magic in the first game. This is probably the same reason the statue has four arms, as well.
Dragons didn't play as large a role in CT as they did in CC, but they were all over Magus's castle, and the Guardian crest resembles a dragon as well. It's not too hard to imagine those things are some sort of dragon.
Dragons didn't play as large a role in CT as they did in CC, but they were all over Magus's castle, and the Guardian crest resembles a dragon as well. It's not too hard to imagine those things are some sort of dragon.
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Special Event Polling / Re: Further Character Discussion
« on: September 07, 2007, 10:32:17 pm »
Ahh... Should probably have lurked moar, then. But still, even after all his bashing, he gave her a B. Seems like a silly thing to reopen a thread over 
As for skankitude sullying Schala, seems to me that the point of Kid was that she was so unlike Schala despite supposedly being a de-aged version. I really don't mind some skimpyness, especially in games, but I'm more concerned with the fact that she looks like a twig with implants, and the front of her skirt doesn't really exist. But that's all opinion, heh.
The grade stands.
As for skankitude sullying Schala, seems to me that the point of Kid was that she was so unlike Schala despite supposedly being a de-aged version. I really don't mind some skimpyness, especially in games, but I'm more concerned with the fact that she looks like a twig with implants, and the front of her skirt doesn't really exist. But that's all opinion, heh.
The grade stands.
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Special Event Polling / Re: Further Character Discussion
« on: September 07, 2007, 09:55:08 pm »
KID
(in b4 flames)
Character Design - Oh wow, a scrawny teenage blonde with exposed midriff and attitude? She just oozes originality! And other bizarre things, I'm sure. But really, I could stand Kid's outfit if it wasn't so much worse than it could have been. In RD her outfit was almost a palette-swap of Lucca's, and Kato's art for her had her dressed more modestly than Schala. Such an outfit doesn't really fit her CC incarnation, especially considering Magus wasn't around to make her tart down. It would have been awesome if they stuck with this
but they decided to give us this
Furthermore, she was extremely likable in RD, but CC actually rewards you if you choose to ignore her/completely screw her over. This game made me want to leave her ass, while RD made me genuinely sad everytime something bad happened to the girl. This may just be because Serge was more... talkative and openly fond of Kid in RD. They seem more like "decent friends" at best, here.
(Now, I'm comparing CC to RD a lot here, and I know they aren't the same game, but it says something pretty bad about a game as beautiful and well-selling as CC that it's not quite as good as its made-for-satellaview, text-based predecessor. Story and character development-wise, of course. That's almost like a direct-to-video sequel being better than a theatrical release.)
Combat Usefulness - I had her in my party every time she was available to me, thinking it would reflect in the story somehow, but it seemed the only times she was mentioned it was sickness or brainwashing. She wasn't too shabby.
Tilt - Seems like I hate the ever-loving crap out of this chica, don't it? THIS IS NOT REALLY THE CASE! After all the bad shit is said, she's a charming character, and I'd like to see more of her. She's a wonderful counterpart to the hopelessly tragic Schala, one of few not entirely mopey female main characters in the RPG world, and probably my third favorite character in the Chrono series after Magus and Marle, but CC really didn't do her justice. Also, her rating thread disgusted me. It was one big reminder of the "lalala I can't hear you Cross was the best game ever" and "HEY LET'S BE JERKS TO THE GUY WITH THE DIFFERENT OPINION" attitude that seems to be strangling this place. She gets a...
C
[edit] More to come, later!
(in b4 flames)
Character Design - Oh wow, a scrawny teenage blonde with exposed midriff and attitude? She just oozes originality! And other bizarre things, I'm sure. But really, I could stand Kid's outfit if it wasn't so much worse than it could have been. In RD her outfit was almost a palette-swap of Lucca's, and Kato's art for her had her dressed more modestly than Schala. Such an outfit doesn't really fit her CC incarnation, especially considering Magus wasn't around to make her tart down. It would have been awesome if they stuck with this
but they decided to give us this
Furthermore, she was extremely likable in RD, but CC actually rewards you if you choose to ignore her/completely screw her over. This game made me want to leave her ass, while RD made me genuinely sad everytime something bad happened to the girl. This may just be because Serge was more... talkative and openly fond of Kid in RD. They seem more like "decent friends" at best, here.
(Now, I'm comparing CC to RD a lot here, and I know they aren't the same game, but it says something pretty bad about a game as beautiful and well-selling as CC that it's not quite as good as its made-for-satellaview, text-based predecessor. Story and character development-wise, of course. That's almost like a direct-to-video sequel being better than a theatrical release.)
Combat Usefulness - I had her in my party every time she was available to me, thinking it would reflect in the story somehow, but it seemed the only times she was mentioned it was sickness or brainwashing. She wasn't too shabby.
Tilt - Seems like I hate the ever-loving crap out of this chica, don't it? THIS IS NOT REALLY THE CASE! After all the bad shit is said, she's a charming character, and I'd like to see more of her. She's a wonderful counterpart to the hopelessly tragic Schala, one of few not entirely mopey female main characters in the RPG world, and probably my third favorite character in the Chrono series after Magus and Marle, but CC really didn't do her justice. Also, her rating thread disgusted me. It was one big reminder of the "lalala I can't hear you Cross was the best game ever" and "HEY LET'S BE JERKS TO THE GUY WITH THE DIFFERENT OPINION" attitude that seems to be strangling this place. She gets a...
C
[edit] More to come, later!
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Special Event Polling / Further Character Discussion
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:26:26 pm »
Just in case you missed a poll or weren't able to add anything to an opinion because of a closed poll, this thread's for you!
I'll add some unpopular opinions in a while, but for now, I'd like some other folks to post!
I'll add some unpopular opinions in a while, but for now, I'd like some other folks to post!
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Special Event Polling / Re: Information and Rules
« on: September 06, 2007, 10:58:23 pm »
May I create a thread in this board for those who missed certain polls to discuss characters?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: How Guile is Magus
« on: September 06, 2007, 10:47:55 pm »
Maybe Kato ignored Magus so you can have more Poshul.
Not to say I don't like CC, just that some parts come off as a big "fuck you, fans"
Not to say I don't like CC, just that some parts come off as a big "fuck you, fans"
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Crono Foreshadowing
« on: September 05, 2007, 08:33:02 pm »
He's like the old man in RD. Clearly some stuff was left out of the script, and I don't really think it's as deep as you guys are making it. I'll paraphrase and fill in the blanks a bit.
Belthy: Schala? Dang it has been a while!
Party: WTF crazy man
Belthy: ......
Crono: Hey wrinkle-ass, can you tell me about this mountain you're under here?
Belthy: Oh dogg you do not want to mess with that mountain. Bad shit. Well, not like you'd get far anyway, windy as hell. See my inventions? Boy howdy is science awesome. NOW GET OFFA MY LAWN YOU BASTARD KIDS!
At least that's what I'm going with. They seemed a little bit apprehensive about giving them the Trigger, too... But that's fanfic territory.
Belthy: Schala? Dang it has been a while!
Party: WTF crazy man
Belthy: ......
Crono: Hey wrinkle-ass, can you tell me about this mountain you're under here?
Belthy: Oh dogg you do not want to mess with that mountain. Bad shit. Well, not like you'd get far anyway, windy as hell. See my inventions? Boy howdy is science awesome. NOW GET OFFA MY LAWN YOU BASTARD KIDS!
At least that's what I'm going with. They seemed a little bit apprehensive about giving them the Trigger, too... But that's fanfic territory.
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Special Event Polling / Re: Rate Cross Characters 19: Marcy
« on: September 04, 2007, 09:37:38 pm »
Design: I like all of the designs from this game, and li'l Marcy's no different.
Combat: Wouldn't know, never bothered to get her.
Tilt: Would be a pretty cool villian NPC, but pretty forgettable in the long run. Even in all the family drama with Nikki, she's exceptionally optional.
Overall: C
Combat: Wouldn't know, never bothered to get her.
Tilt: Would be a pretty cool villian NPC, but pretty forgettable in the long run. Even in all the family drama with Nikki, she's exceptionally optional.
Overall: C
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Special Event Polling / Re: Rate Cross Characters 18: Macha
« on: September 02, 2007, 05:39:09 pm »
Design: I thought her in-game sprite was adorable, and she reminds me a lot of my mom. Definitely an unconventional design in a world of anorexic, scantily-clad teens.
Combat: Not so great here. Didn't use her that much.
Tilt: I liked her as a character and a non-annoying option to choose instead of Korcha, but she would be much better off as an NPC. I liked her attitude.
Overall: B
Combat: Not so great here. Didn't use her that much.
Tilt: I liked her as a character and a non-annoying option to choose instead of Korcha, but she would be much better off as an NPC. I liked her attitude.
Overall: B
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Guardia Royal Line Paradox
« on: September 01, 2007, 12:50:50 am »
But... that sorta happened anyway. CT REWARDED screwing up the timeline for their own benefit. Crono had tasty food dishes named after him and tons of buddies through time.
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Special Event Polling / Re: Rate Cross Characters 17: Luccia
« on: August 31, 2007, 03:36:53 am »
Design: Seriously, looks like the lustchild of Magus and Lucca. Cool, though.
Usefullness: ehh...
Tilt: Nice as an NPC, but needed more to be part of the crew
Overall: C
Usefullness: ehh...
Tilt: Nice as an NPC, but needed more to be part of the crew
Overall: C
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Special Event Polling / Re: Rate Cross Characters 16: Leena
« on: August 31, 2007, 01:53:39 am »
Design: Ah, so cute. She really does look like a hybrid of Crono and Marle.
Combat: Really useful at the start, but got lost along the way.
Tilt: I think Leena on the whole is one big reminder of how CC crammed characters down our throats with minimum development, or what little they do include is thoroughly depressing. She was basically Serge's girlfriend before the whole mess started, and he leaves her for some skank he just met? What? And we're told that she won't find love after that? What? It's almost as if she was thrown in JUST to depress people. No point.
Overall: C
Combat: Really useful at the start, but got lost along the way.
Tilt: I think Leena on the whole is one big reminder of how CC crammed characters down our throats with minimum development, or what little they do include is thoroughly depressing. She was basically Serge's girlfriend before the whole mess started, and he leaves her for some skank he just met? What? And we're told that she won't find love after that? What? It's almost as if she was thrown in JUST to depress people. No point.
Overall: C