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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Dario discrepancy

« on: May 26, 2007, 07:13:23 pm »

I always thought that Lynx planed it and like the masamune can only take over one being at a time so he couldn't touch it till dario did then he would use it to prevent serge from getting back to another would by locking the dead sea and thats why wanted the masamune

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Ozzie, Flea, and Slash

« on: May 26, 2007, 07:07:41 pm »

maybe she is a hemaphrodite but never took sex ED to discover that she is a woman with a non-functioning penis.

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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: The long-haired person in the fall of guardia. (Not a Magus theory)

« on: May 26, 2007, 07:03:18 pm »

could it be dalton? i mean he said outside the flow of time.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The Darkness Beyond Time?

« on: May 26, 2007, 11:54:04 am »

And yes, the Time Devourer is eliminated permently, and will never return, as Schala was an integral part of the Time Devourer, and without her, it can never come to be.

im saying is lavos dead there like not there anymore.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The Darkness Beyond Time?

« on: May 25, 2007, 11:35:56 pm »

schala being drained of her power created TD and if TD was destroyed then all the different worlds created by the TD would disapear like nothing ever happened.

What?

No, that is not what happened at all, and if you listen to this person, ZealKnight, you are a fool.

Is that like where discarded timelines go?

In essence, yes. The Darkness Beyond Time acts as a sort of universal archive of destroyed or discarded timelines altered by time travel. Think of it as the Recycle Bin in Windows.

So, if A goes to January 1st, 2007 and alters X to X', the timeline that proceeded from X is transferred to the DBT, while the timeline that proceeds X' is the new timeline.

For instance if Crono had died nothing would be there, but because he won everything after that point was sent there.

I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to. Any changes made send the original timeline prior to the change into the DBT. That means that from the second Marle was blasted into the Gate in 1000 A.D. at the start of the game, all sorts of timelines were tossed into the DBT. We simply refer to the whole of the game as one timeline for ease of reference.

I read it in the encyclopedia, but could if there is only one then wouldn't be that after the unification all the lavoses would be thrown there thus he would fuse with all of them? (If that is a possability perhaps Chrono Break would use that to its advantage)

We don't know if there is only one DBT for all realities, or if each reality has a DBT.

Furthermore, what happened with Lavos has nothing to do with fusing with himself or what have you. Basically, the altered timeline in which he survived and spawned in the ruined future was tossed into the DBT after he was killed. Because he is such a powerful entity that he can affect time, he preserved the Lavos timeline version of himself in the DBT--or so one would presume, as otherwise there is no way he could have ended up in the DBT--and then he fused with Schala when she ended up in the DBT--possibly sent there by himself as a backup plan--after the new Ocean Palace Incident in which Crono and friends were participants. It is only the fusion of Lavos and Schala that created the Time Devourer.

Also how did freeing Schala unify the time lines?

Okay, first, one has to understand exactly what the Chrono Cross is. The Chrono Cross is a unification of the two Dragon Tears, one from each universe. It has the power to unify the dimensions when used outside of time, because it restores everything to a healthier state.

Given that Home and Another are interconnected in several ways unlike any reality seen in the game--through methods such as the character in your avatar, Turnip, who is a member of the Dream Species being dreamed up by someone in the other reality--they are really more like two halves of one whole, even though everything is copied. As such, they would be unified back together, restoring whatever harm to the universe was caused by the splitting. For all we know the splitting could have caused some gigantic tear that would eventually screw everything up entirely.

Schala and Lavos are two distinct beings who were being fused together into a new being. The Chrono Cross thus exerted its power to restore them each to themselves--Schala to Schala, and Lavos to Lavos. What happened to Lavos after this is unknown.

Just destroying the entity that was the Time Devourer would not be anywhere near enough to reunify the dimensions. It was the Chrono Cross that did so, and it could only do so outside of time, in the Darkness Beyond Time.

ok so i understand a little more now. so the chrono cross fused the timelines? and turnip could have been in the original timeline(hes my favorite character)? and i meant if crono never went through time then nothing would have ever gone there, is that correct?

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I read it in the encyclopedia, but could if there is only one then wouldn't be that after the unification all the lavoses would be thrown there thus he would fuse with all of them? (If that is a possability perhaps Chrono Break would use that to its advantage)
We don't know if there is only one DBT for all realities, or if each reality has a DBT.

Furthermore, what happened with Lavos has nothing to do with fusing with himself or what have you. Basically, the altered timeline in which he survived and spawned in the ruined future was tossed into the DBT after he was killed. Because he is such a powerful entity that he can affect time, he preserved the Lavos timeline version of himself in the DBT--or so one would presume, as otherwise there is no way he could have ended up in the DBT--and then he fused with Schala when she ended up in the DBT--possibly sent there by himself as a backup plan--after the new Ocean Palace Incident in which Crono and friends were participants. It is only the fusion of Lavos and Schala that created the Time Devourer.

I thought that the TD fused/or devoured everything that came into contact with the frozen flame and i would think that since the frozen flame was part of lavos after the time lines unified they would also unify(each lavos from every timeline i mean), not to mention destroy everything in DBT. that just what I though would happen. Oh, one more thing so is the TD gone forever?

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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: This probably has already been thought of but.....

« on: May 25, 2007, 09:16:20 pm »

i ment make them like little side quests. for instance marle and magus's final weapon never had anything but open this treasur cheast. and I don have the skill for this im seeing if anyone wants to. i could come up with ideas but thats pretty much it.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Why do we love the Chrono series so much?

« on: May 25, 2007, 09:13:59 pm »

well some might love it because it gives hope for our future, knowing there's always someone trying to make the world a better place, and the heroes that make the world great, are as average as you or me.

average? ripped muscle guy, super guines, princess, robot, frog, cave woman, and muscular wizard? how is that average?

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The Darkness Beyond Time?

« on: May 25, 2007, 09:11:49 pm »

so the TD created all the time lines?

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: The Darkness Beyond Time?

« on: May 25, 2007, 09:01:12 pm »

Would anyone like to respond

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: Why do we love the Chrono series so much?

« on: May 25, 2007, 09:00:14 pm »

chrono trigger had team attacks and then the story sucked you in chrono cross adds to the story so you HAVE to play it.

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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: This probably has already been thought of but.....

« on: May 25, 2007, 07:16:20 pm »

I don't know. just add things like the robot village, the zeal dungon, and the volcano.

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / The Darkness Beyond Time?

« on: May 22, 2007, 09:47:13 pm »

Is that like where discarded timelines go? For instance if Crono had died nothing would be there, but because he won everything after that point was sent there. I read it in the encyclopedia, but could if there is only one then wouldn't be that after the unification all the lavoses would be thrown there thus he would fuse with all of them? (If that is a possability perhaps Chrono Break would use that to its advantage) Also how did freeing Schala unify the time lines?

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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I don't Get it.

« on: May 22, 2007, 02:26:30 pm »

How hard is he?

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Chrono Trigger Modification / This probably has already been thought of but.....

« on: May 21, 2007, 05:21:40 pm »

What if someone created a patch to install the things that were taken out of CT in the beta version. I mean the things that won't create problems with the story like make them side quests. If anyone wants too you have my support!

EDIT: or maybe a 2D version of radical dreamers

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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Chrono Trigger - Time's Illusion (Manoria Cathedral Video)

« on: May 19, 2007, 11:58:03 pm »

Thats awsome can't wait till its finished!