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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / OH GOD HOW DID THIS GET HERE I AM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER

« on: April 26, 2009, 04:08:23 am »

I'm back. I doub't anyone knowns me well enough to feel much about that, with one or two exceptions, but hey! I'm back.

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Site Updates / Re: Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes Enters Beta Testing

« on: February 22, 2009, 03:37:25 am »

Wow. 'grats to the CE team!

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Causal Link, relation to MP.

« on: February 14, 2009, 12:22:26 am »

By the way, let me explain why this is necessary. If we accept that Marle vanishes, it is possible that other things vanish as well. Sure, none of the heroes vanish completele ever again, but over the course of the story Chaotic Processes, more popularly known as Butterfly Effects started by them will remove an atom here and there from our heros bodies. if these come from an area of little consequence, like the epidermis... who cares if they're missing an atom here and there. But imagine the damage caused by entire sections of DNA suddenly disapearing!!!

If the Causal Link is inexistant, then our current understanding of the entire Chrono Universe may be flawed.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Causal Link, relation to MP.

« on: February 14, 2009, 12:06:56 am »

Just a random idea I had. When Marle disappears, it's because the atoms that make her up exploded all over the place to where they would have been had Marle never been born. That flash? It was a Luminal Boom, the light-based equivalent of a Sonic Boom. Let me explain. TTI may not have been violated completely by Marle's banishment. It is generally accepted that she was banished to the DBT, but I question that. While Lavos as the Time Devourer was able to continue it's awareness(In my opinion, due to a creative application of the Pocket Dimension.), it is utterly inconceivable that Marle would be able to do the same. I therefore submit that she was not sent to the DBT, but was rather stuck in a limbo in the Prime Universe, thanks to TTI being slightly stronger than we suspected. TTI as I believe it to work does not preserve spatial coordinates of all atoms in a Traveler's body. Rather, it establishes a Causal Link between those Atoms. This link ensures that no matter the distance of the atoms physically, information(heat, inertia, etc) can be transmitted between them with 100% Fidelity and 100% Efficacy. Basically, while the Atoms that made up Marle were separated by space, they were still connected through time. Let me Illustrate.



Get it? Marle is bunch of dots in three dimensions that make a concise whole. After the event her atoms are separated in space(2D) but if you add time(3D) then rotate it, you will see the connection.

NOTE: I am not implying space is Two-Dimensional, I am simply linking the textual explanation to my diagram. Just so nobody starts a post with something along the lines of  .



Finally, the Luminal Boom is caused by her atoms moving to the redesignated locations at infinite velocity.

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General Discussion / Re: The "WTF? Check this link out!" thread!

« on: January 28, 2009, 12:33:19 pm »

Gerin Oil (or Geriniol, to give it its scientific name) is a powerful drug that acts directly on the central nervous system to produce a range of symptoms, often of an antisocial or self-damaging nature. It can permanently modify the child brain to produce adult disorders, including dangerous delusions that are hard to treat. The four doomed flights of September 11, 2001, were Gerin Oil trips: all nineteen of the hijackers were high on the drug at the time. Historically, Geriniolism was responsible for atrocities such as the Salem witch hunts and the massacres of native South Americans by Conquistadores. Gerin Oil fuelled most of the wars of the European Middle Ages and, in more recent times, the carnage that attended the partitioning of the Indian subcontinent and of Ireland.

    Gerin Oil intoxication can drive previously sane individuals to run away from a normally fulfilled human life and retreat to closed communities of confirmed addicts. These communities are usually limited to one sex only, and they vigorously, often obsessively, forbid sexual activity. Indeed, a tendency towards agonized sexual prohibition emerges as a drably recurring theme amid all the colorful variations of Gerin Oil symptomatology. Gerin Oil does not seem to reduce the libido per se, but it frequently leads to a preoccupation with reducing the sexual pleasure of others. A current example is the prurience with which many habitual "Oilers" condemn homosexuality.

    As with other drugs, refined Gerin Oil in low doses is largely harmless, and can serve as a lubricant on social occasions such as marriages, funerals, and state ceremonies. Experts differ over whether such social tripping, though harmless in itself, is a risk factor for upgrading to harder and more addictive forms of the drug.

    Medium doses of Gerin Oil, though not in themselves dangerous, can distort perceptions of reality. Beliefs that have no basis in fact are immunized, by the drug's direct effects on the nervous system, against evidence from the real world. Oilheads can be heard talking to thin air or muttering to themselves, apparently in the belief that private wishes so expressed will come true, even at the cost of other people's welfare and mild violation of the laws of physics. This autolocutory disorder is often accompanied by weird tics and hand gestures, manic stereoptypies such as rhythmic headnodding toward a wall, or Obsessive Compulsive Orientation Syndrome (OCOS: facing towards the east five times a day).

Gerin Oil in strong doses is hallucinogenic. Hardcore mainliners may hear voices in the head, or experience visual illusions that seem to the sufferers so real that they often succeed in persuading others of their realitiy. An individual who convincingly reports high-grade hallucinations may be venerated, and even followed as some kind of leader, by others who regard themselves as less fortunate. Such follower-pathology can long postdate the original leader's death, and may expand into bizarre psychedelia such as the cannibalistic fantasy of "drinking the blood and eating the flesh" of the leader.

Chronic abuse of Geriniol can lead to "bad trips", in which the user suffers terrifying delusions, including fears of being tortured, not in the real world but in a postmortem fantasy world. Bad trips of this kind are bound up with a morbid punishment-lore that is as characterstic of this drug as the obsessive fear of sexuality already noted. The punishment-culture fostered by Gerin Oil ranges from "smack" through "lash" to getting "stoned" (especiallly adulteresses and rape victims), and "demanifestation" (amputation of one hand), up to the sinister fantasy of allo-punishment or "cross-topping", the execution of one individual for the sins of others.

You might think that such a potentially dangerous and addictive drug would head the list of proscribed intoxicants, with exemplary sentences handed out for pushing it. But no, it is readily obtainable anywhere in the world and you don't even need a prescription. Professional traffickers are numerous, and organized in hierarchical cartels, openly trading on street corners and in purpose-made buildings. Some of these cartels are adept at fleecing poor people desperate to feed their habit. "Godfathers" occupy influential poisitions in high places, and they have the ear of royalty, of presidents and of prime ministers. Governments don't just turn a blind eye to the trade, they grant it tax-exempt status. Worse, they subsidize schools founded with the specific intention of getting children hooked.

I was prompted to write this article by the smiling face of a happy man in Bali. He was ecstatically greeting his death sentence for the brutal murder of large numbers of innocent holiday-makers whom he had never met, and against whom he bore no personal grudge. Some people in the court were shocked at his lack of remorse. Far from remorse, his response was one of obvious exhilaration. He punched the air , delirious with joy that he was to be "martyred", to use the jargon of his group of abusers. Make no mistake about it, this beatific smile, looking forward with unalloyed pleasure to the firming squad, is the smile of a junkie. Here we have the archetypal mainliner, doped up with hard, unrefined,unadulterated, high-octane Gerin Oil.

Whatever your view of the vengeance and deterrence theories of capital punishment, it should be obvious that his case is special. Martydom is a strange revenge against those who crave it, and, far from deterrring, it always recruits more martyrs than it kills. The important point is that the problem would not arise in the first place if children were protected from getting hooked on a drug with such a bad prognosis for their adult minds.

Link.

Geriniol Greiniol Rgeiniol Reginiol Reigniol Reignilo Reignlio Reiglnio Reilgnio Relignio Religino Religion

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Kajar Laboratories / Re: Hey, I just had a CRAZY idea.

« on: January 25, 2009, 10:04:52 am »

Replying to everyone in one shot.

PS2 emulation is in a state where this would be possible (that is, it runs things for the most part; speed is rarely an issue for this). 

I know PS2 emulation is quite advanced. Just not advanced enough, in my opinion, to be used reliably. It was underlined in a video that I saw on youtube about GS/PAR/CB codes for KH2. I'm sure anyone reading Kajar Labs knows exactly how they work, so I wont bother with the details. It should be sufficient to mention that a code to replace the playable character(from Sora to Riku) required different codesets for the emulator and the real machine.

That's not the issue, though; the issue would be reverse-engineering the KH2 engine, which...

Significant progress has already been made on reverse engineering KH2. This individual has managed to subvert the game's AI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bGlcMl5rs&feature=channel

...well, take a look at the current state of reverse-engineering Chrono Cross.  We've been at it for something over two years now, and have maybe half of what we'd need to do a wholesale replacement of things to implement a different game in it figured out.

In my experience, Hacking/Modding a game operates on a sort of bell curve. On one side, you've got SMB, Metroid, and other Famicom era games, on the other, you have stuff like KoToR, Freelancer, and others. Both sides are quite easy to penetrate and hack.  CC lies almost right in the middle, and CT is pretty close to the top itself, so you guys all deserve massive respect.

A good first step on this would be when KH:358/2 comes out, though - there'll be some commonalities of code between that and earlier KH games, and DS games are a fair amount easier to pull apart the metaphorical code innards on.

Sorry, but... No, there won't. The DS's internal architecture and the architecture of a PS2 are very different. KH: 358/2 Days will have more in common with other SE DS games, probably sharing a similar 3d engine at most.

Sure thing grab the source code and we'll get to work.

Sure! I'll just send you a pile of noncommented C from my decompiler! [/sarcasm]

Please something to forward the discourse, or not at all.

It sounds brilliant, but again really hard to do. You may wish to start with a KH GBA or DS game. Those are apparently easier to pull apart. But if you get to messing with KH2, I will happily test it for you. I'm in the middle of a massive KH2 kick... and this is just what I needed.

Heh, cool! If I figure out how to pop the .IMG format where I suspect most of the data is located at (A 3.7 GB file is just a little conspicuous.) I'll be sure to PM you.

The problem is the engine is not opened. So you have to hack everything, and creating a game is not just replacing some graphics or sounds...
And I bet writing a new engine should be faster than that...

What I meant was CT, under most of the KH2 system. It still involves more than as you put it "graphicks or sounds" but it not impossible. Specifically, it would involve replacing some graphics and sounds, cracking the models and animations, making a soundtrack, and changing some of the executable code to allow anyone to be at the front of your party. Physical techs could be Abilities, magic would replace the LIMIT menu, and not eat the entire MP bar. I'm not crazy, and I'm not talking about doing something like implementing ATBv2 under the KH2's engine.

Oh, and also: NO, IT ISN'T. Easier to write a new engine, that is. I can speak from personal experience that writing a game engine is harder than modding an existing one, because guess what? I'm already writing a video game engine. In 2D. And it's harder then anything I've ever attempted before.

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Kajar Laboratories / Hey, I just had a CRAZY idea.

« on: January 25, 2009, 05:29:01 am »

Chrono Trigger, ported to the Kingdom Hearts 2 engine. What do you think? This would probably be impossible until PS2 emulation matures to somewhere around the PSX level, so I'm starting this topic to discuss the concept, not the real thing.

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General Discussion / Re: The "WTF? Check this link out!" thread!

« on: January 21, 2009, 04:12:45 am »

Oh, shit. HIV Positive is not cool.

*sees the word "Confidential" on the sheet*

Wait a minute.

6502x86, where the hell did you get this?

Someone posted it on #lurk awhile ago.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: PTime

« on: January 17, 2009, 11:33:27 am »

That's a very interesting topic with huge implications about the fundamental nature of Lavos. I'll post there shortly.

The Pocket Dimension that Lavos as the Time Devourer generates is quite different from the one the Lavos of CT makes. The TD's pocket dimension is more then just a bubble. It's an interface that The TD uses to scan for the Prime Universe. Once The TD finds the Prime Universe, it eats, of course.

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General Discussion / Steve Jobs has HIV.

« on: January 16, 2009, 08:30:04 am »

Yep. This is what his leave of absence is about.

I'm gonna go ahead & count this big-ass pic & the one sentence added to it as a "wtf check this link out" post.

~V_Translanka

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: PTime

« on: January 16, 2009, 12:28:35 am »

We know the Lavos is able to generate a pocket dimension, right? Under PTime, the dimension is a universe unto itself. Lavos as the Time Devourer just applied this power(Generating a small Prime Universe all it's own) for a slightly different purpose. Rather than making a closed Pocket Dimension, it made an open one. The bright blue ring on the outside of the battlefield is that boundary.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: PTime

« on: January 15, 2009, 09:49:33 am »

First, New chart, my last one was incompatible with current science, and thus Facepalm-worthy.


Okay, now on to the reply proper.

So what I recommend for PTime is, keep all the stuff about a Prime Universe being actualized at any given moment and all other universes being sent to the DBT, but ditch everything else related to Absolute Zero and other such things.

Why? For two reasons: 1) Because it makes it unnecessarily complicated and 2) Because the theory is only important insofar as it predicts events in the game. Adding stuff about why it works that way is unnecessary. For example, TTI and TB are great theories that predict a ton of events in the game. The Compendium tries to rationalize why they work based on Conservation of mass/energy. But it's not necessary, because they still work just fine by saying they exist just to prevent paradoxes from arising.

Well, sure.. Perhaps if I had worked out PTime for the sole purpose of predicting events in cross and trigger, I would agree. Problem is, I worked PTime out as a description of how our universe works, and it just happened to fit the Chrono Series nicely.  That baggage that makes it complex is designed to help keep PTime following certain Laws, especially the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Also, the Planck Bottom is an ironclad requirement for PTime to work. (Think about it for awhile, and you'll see why.)

I was half serious. At the present time, circumstances make it impossible for me to procure and use anything strongly psychoactive without endangering(not physically, mind you) people around me whom I care a great deal about. I'm a moderately experienced psychonaut in my own right, however. I'm pretty well educated too, I've been reading erowid as a hobby for two years, I've been reading books about psychoactives in general since I was in third grade. Once I return to the states and get an apartment of my own, I'll probably buy some HBWs for decoration.

No shit? What are the odds of that. Most people here seem completely against the idea of exploring ones consciousness using psychoactives. I was originally introduced to it via a spiritual ceremony. It was a lifechanging experience. Erowid is a great resource for safety purposes, as are TiHKAL and PiHKAL - but I'm sure you already know that.  By HBW's I'm assuming you mean Hawaiian Baby Woodroses, right?

I predict that me and you will have some good PM conversations together. If you are a moderately experienced psychonaut and you have not gone down the Salvia divinorum route yet, I should warn you that even if you are the most experienced psychonaut in the world it will not prepare you for the experience if you do it correctly. The only thing it is comparable to is DMT. Smoked, not ayahuasca brew. The Salvinorin A will shoot you into another universe and throw you back and forth between dimensions before dropping you back off in this reality making you wonder whether or not it's the "real" one. But if you've already been there then I'm just preaching to the choir. 

Yep. HBWs have the advantage of being nice houseplants in addition to having the highest amount of Amides in any plant possesing such..

Yeah, my experiences lie mostly on the non-chemical side of the fence.  This has a lot to do with me being a military kid. If anything psychoactive was found on me, it would be my fathers fault(legally speaking) and his career would be invalidated. He's worked twenty years to be able to retire with full veteran benefits, and I cannot risk his career for my experimentations. Still, this might actually be a good thing. I have a lot of experience meditating, I've been constantly practicing for seven years. I also use binaurals. Recently, I hit a HUGE milestone.

On the chemical side, eh, I'll leave that for PMs.

The DEA and D.A.R.E, their foreign equivalents, and anti-psychoactive lobbies in general are powerful agencies of Perception Editing. I could write an entire post on their campaign of misinformation. But I won't. Not here, anyway. Oh, but I will mention that in third grade, while I was still credulous of them, they had me believing that Marijuana was a mutated strain of Tobacco that caused stupidity, infertility and cancer. Oh, and you injected it with an IV. Lies? Yeah, kinda.

Okay, enough about Psychonautry. It's too off topic. chrono eric, let us continue talking about it via PM.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: PTime

« on: January 15, 2009, 03:32:03 am »

This is more poor wording on my part. What I meant to imply by this statement was simply that, while gravity has effects on Space, it lies more heavily on the time side of the border. If you concentrate a large mass in a small area, it will attract things toward it weakly. Extremley weakly. So weakly in fact, that all the gravity of earth cannot, or a black hole the mass of earth could not pull a refrigerator magnet from a refrigerator.(This is, of course, annulled once we reach the Event Horizon, but I'll get to that in a bit.) So anyways, gravity is really weak over space. But lets look at it's effects over time. Over time, the effects of gravity are so strong that two airplanes going around the planet in opposite directions at subsonic speeds generate enough time dilation to measure with a conventional atomic clock. So one might say that gravity is an incredibly powerful force that exerts most of it's effects on the time side of spacetime. The best example of this is an Event Horizon. As we approach a black hole, time dilation increases exponentially. Eventually, we reach a point where time flows so slowly that the space side of gravity is able to overpower every other force, and pull in every particle, even photons.

Well, a more correct way to say it is that the effects of gravity on space and time are equal, because space-time is equal. Space and time are not separate from each other as we conventionally think of them. However, time dilation (which is the result of the warping of space-time) gives the illusion that time is more severely affected, because time is what we experience in the airplane example - not space. In reality though, they are equally affected.

Spacetime is a single entity, yest, but viewing them as a singular object, for example "This rock is Spacetime." is no more correct than "This rock is Space, That other rock is Time.". My personal view on the whole spacetime affair is that Spacetime is in the middle of a Symmetry Break(much like how other forces have emerged as singular entities as the universe moves down from higher energy states.) Since Space is trying to tear itself from Time, and vice-versa the correct view of Spacetime is more like a spectrum. I've included a chart to approximate what I'm trying to say, because it is a little hard to explain.



The airplane example was illustrative of a concept that is really hard to explain with words, but I'll try. When Time alone stops, Space continues to iterate. The absence of time removes the ability for Spatial Forces, those forces unable to affect time to work. In a this kind of timestop, all kinds of weird shit happens. I was trying to explaind why such a stop could never work naturally in practice.

Whether or not they actually froze in their orbits(and they would)

They wouldn't in the real world, unless you are talking about Absolute Zero in your PTime theory and not what happens at Absolute Zero in the real world.

From now on, lets call PTime's Absolute Zero Planck Bottom, to avoid confusion.

Similarly, while neurons firing do not directly produce consciousness, if no neurons are firing, you are not conscious.

This is counter-intuitive, but believe it or not this is not true. It is possible to damage the brain specifically by cutting the corticothalamic circuit, and the person becomes a vegetable. But the rest of the brain is still 100% functional. Consciousness appears to only be associated with certain circuits in the brain. The vast majority of the brain actually processes information unconsciously. For example, before you become consciously aware of what you are looking at, your visual cortex has already processed the incoming information from your optic nerve, arranged it into an image, classified objects and accessed your memory to quickly identify objects. All this occurs before you are even aware of it. This is a well-known phenomenon with all aspects of neuronal function and it demonstrates that consciousness is not simply an epiphenomenon of brain function. It is much more enigmatic than that.

I said: If no neurons are firing, you are not conscious. This does not preclude some neurons firing, and you still not being conscious. It's like pulling the ram from a computer instead of the CPU: The machine still works, but only for the most basic of tasks.

Bingo. And where can I get some of those chemicals!? 

Well, if you are legitimately interested in that and not joking, check out this thread of mine - "On the Spiritual Uses of Mind Altering Substances":

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php/topic,6624.0.html

Most of the thread is about the religious use of Salvia divinorum, but I believe I also mentioned dimethyltryptamine somewhere in there. Both are dissociative psychedelics. Salvia divinorum, which contains the active chemical Salvinorin A, is the most potent naturally occurring psychedelic drug on the planet and is also the most powerful psychedelic drug known to man. And it is 100% legal in all states except for Florida. Among the many profound effects it produces are living life as inanimate objects and perceiving the stopping of time or all eternity.

If ever you would consider doing it, I recommend you read as much about it as possible and PM me if you want to ask any personal questions. It is an experience that changes lives, but can also be mentally intimidating.

Most other psychedelic chemicals produce profound time-dilation perceptive effects as well. It is one of the most commonly reported sensations of psyche's like LSD, peyote, and psilocybe mushrooms. But you have to take a high enough dose to "perceive eternity". Most of them are actually legal too and acquired through research chemical web sites; however, because of the wording of the Analog Drug Law, you could be potentially prosecuted for possession of them. 2c-e, for example, is known to actually produce the sensation of stopping time in the physical world in a high enough dose. Several self-experimenters reported watching a ball bounce, then seeing it in frame-by-frame shots, and then seeing it stop and hang in midair. Usually these effects are associated with profound hallucinations in which you don't even realize you exist within the universe anymore, which is what makes that unique.

I was half serious. At the present time, circumstances make it impossible for me to procure and use anything strongly psychoactive without endangering(not physically, mind you) people around me whom I care a great deal about. I'm a moderately experienced psychonaut in my own right, however. I'm pretty well educated too, I've been reading erowid as a hobby for two years, I've been reading books about psychoactives in general since I was in third grade. Once I return to the states and get an apartment of my own, I'll probably buy some HBWs for decoration.

6502x86, thank you, seriously.

Nah, I should thank you. With your post, which I read in my cursory go-through mentioned above, you motivated me to post!

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: PTime

« on: January 14, 2009, 10:12:06 am »

Thank you for the kind welcome!


Okay, lets start with real world, then!

In Chrono terms, the Non-Prime Universes are then sent to the Darkness Beyond Time. In non-Chrono terms, the Non-Prime Universes are still extant, but the temperature is stuck at Absolute Zero. Why? Because there is only a finite amount of energy, all of which gets allocated to each new Prime Universe.

Even at absolute zero there is still energy within the system. It possesses zero-point energy. A more correct description would be that at absolute zero there is no energy transference to other systems, and that the energy at absolute zero is the minimum amount of energy possible for a system.

I apologize, I was not completely clear on this. The common concept of Absolute Zero, and PTime's version of it are quite different. Zero-Point Energy is what a Prime Universe has that the others do not. Look, we know there is a limit to heat, the Planck Temperature, more colloquially called Absolute Hot. When we reach the Planck Temperature, all the laws of physics start making no sense in that they can no longer make an accurate prediction of what will happen. PTime's Absolute Zero is the Antithesis of this. There is no energy anywhere in any form. Everything is frozen. The laws of physics can no longer make accurate predictions because unlike with the Planck Temperature, where the energy of the system causes data to behave in new and unpredictable ways, the is no data flowing from anywhere. To the observer in three dimensions, that is, us, a universe under PTime's Absolute Zero would look like emptyness, or like an Event Horizon.

Time does NOT act on gravity. It is, rather, the other way around. Time acts on the Electroweak and Strong Nuclear forces. That is all.

What a strange concept. What do you mean by this? By "action" you seem to imply that time acts like a force on the other fundamental forces of the universe. But this is not so. Space-time is a singular construct, and the particles that convey the fundamental forces of the universe such as the electromagnetic, electroweak and strong, and probably gravity too (once gravitons are discovered) reside within space-time and therefore are subject to both space and time. If your position is that time is not relevant to gravity, then should we not rewrite every single basic physics book that has time as a fundamental quantity to evaluate the position of an object due to the force of gravity?

This is more poor wording on my part. What I meant to imply by this statement was simply that, while gravity has effects on Space, it lies more heavily on the time side of the border. If you concentrate a large mass in a small area, it will attract things toward it weakly. Extremley weakly. So weakly in fact, that all the gravity of earth cannot, or a black hole the mass of earth could not pull a refrigerator magnet from a refrigerator.(This is, of course, annulled once we reach the Event Horizon, but I'll get to that in a bit.) So anyways, gravity is really weak over space. But lets look at it's effects over time. Over time, the effects of gravity are so strong that two airplanes going around the planet in opposite directions at subsonic speeds generate enough time dilation to measure with a conventional atomic clock. So one might say that gravity is an incredibly powerful force that exerts most of it's effects on the time side of spacetime. The best example of this is an Event Horizon. As we approach a black hole, time dilation increases exponentially. Eventually, we reach a point where time flows so slowly that the space side of gravity is able to overpower every other force, and pull in every particle, even photons.

Electrons freeze in their very orbits.

See my above analysis. Electrons do not "freeze" in their orbits at absolute zero as this would violate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in which you cannot know the position and momentum of an electron at any given moment in time. Rather at absolute zero everything in the system, including electrons in their orbit, have the least energy physically possible. And for that matter, electrons don't even "orbit" around the nucleus as planets do around the sun. This is an erroneous concept. Think of the electron orbit more as a probability wave, at which during any given time the electron physically exists at a certain point.

This was a metaphor aimed at nonscientists who read my post. Whether or not they actually froze in their orbits(and they would) would be irrelevant, because at PTime Absolute Zero, there would be no way to tell, because no information is being generated. In other words, Heisenberg is preserved, because when you look at PTime Absolute Zero, you see a void, and NOTHING else.

Time as we see it advances because electrons advance from Point A to Point B in our brains, generating our consciousness as they do so.

Yet another strange concept. First off, electrons do not "advance from Point A to Point B" in our brains. The brain doesn't even use electrons to generate electric flow. It's counterintuitive, I know, since we are often confronted with the example of electrons flowing in wires in every day life. But neurons use an electrochemical ion gradient to generate electrical flow. It is very much like a battery in that there is a charge disparity across the neuronal cell membrane. The electricity doesn't actually "flow" through the neuronal axon as electrons flow in a wire, instead the membrane is electrically depolarized in linear sequence so that net result is a transmission of electrical charge which is not greatly dependent on the physical movement of ions.

And as for this electrical charge "generating our consciousness". If you know something every biologist, neurologist, and physician on the planet doesn't then you deserve a Nobel Prize. Nobody knows what produces consciousness. We don't even know what it is made of. All we know for sure is that the movement of electricity in our brain does not directly produce it. Instead, it seems to be the structural organization of the electromagnetic fields that result from that movement of activity that are important, which explains why consciousness is only associated with higher and "simpler" functions in the human and animal brain despite the fact that the unconscious mind performs much more complicated calculations. But we are no closer to figuring it out than we were fifty years ago.

I must confess, I only have general knowledge of the function of our brains.

To simplify what I was saying: Our perceptions and minds are dependent on constant neuronal activity. If no neurons are firing, we do not exist(In a subjective sense.). While the movment of electricity in our brain does not directly produce consciousness, this is somewhat akin to saying the CPU of you computer does not directly produce Niko Bellic on your computer screen. Technically, it's true, it's the GPU that draws Niko. Pull out the CPU though, and he'll vanish. Similarly, while neurons firing do not directly produce consciousness, if no neurons are firing, you are not conscious.

Time as it actually has effect on the universe exist as an extremely fast skipping from one set of probabilities to the next.

And in this quote do you mean to imply that time is an illusion, and that we need our conscious minds to experience it? This would seem to invalidate the rest of your theory that time only acts on certain forces of the universe, and it would beg the question - "how did time pass before conscious beings existed?"

It is true that the sense of time is derived from the brain, and you can even completely shut down that sense of time using certain psychoactive chemicals - thus allowing an individual to perceive eternity. But this subjective sensation should not be confused with the objective conclusion that the persons consciousness is literally outside of time.

But perhaps I misinterpreted you here, and what you really meant was that our conscious sensation of the passage of time is different from how time really is in objective reality. And you say that the true nature of time is a constantly shifting set of probabilities, which we do not perceive.

Bingo. And where can I get some of those chemicals!? 



Okay, now on to CT.

Well first off, the Chronoverse is a fictional universe that may or may not have any relevance to anything in reality. Any game theory you come up with about the nature of time must predict with reasonable certainty all or most time travel aspects within the games.

Thought provoking stuff though, and welcome to the Time, Space, and Dimensions Forum! 

Now, as far as it is rendering the Marle Paradox moot, I'm assuming you mean that at that particular moment in time Marle ceases to exist because the universe has become a new Prime Universe in which Marle doesn't exist in the first place, right? Well, then there are problems with this. If you take the standpoint that the past, present, and future do not exist simulataneously but rather there is an "absolute present" at any given time, then there is no problem with Marle ceasing to exist as per your theory. However, you would also have to explain why Time Travellers Immunity/Time Bastard seem to be present and why PTime wouldn't also invalidate those in normal cases when it seems to be invalidating Marle's TTI by the very action of her ceasing to exist.

Actually, under PTime, all fiction has it's own universe where it is real and extant, but that universe is non-Prime.(Ours is Prime, of course.)

Seriously though, until I have time to digest the TB and TTI docs, I can't answer you on this one. I kind of just jumped in with only a cursory go-through of the research you guys have built up. It's a bad habit of mine.

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / PTime

« on: January 14, 2009, 02:26:01 am »

Hello, I would like to introduce you to a concept I have developed while wondering on the nature of our own universe. I think it applies beautifully to the Chrono Universe.

That concept is PTime.

PTime, pronounced P-Time originated with an extended version of the Many-Worlds Theorem I have developed. The Theorem is simple.

It is: "Every Infinityth of a second, an Infinite number of new Universes are generated from our Prime Universe, one for every possible probability. The most likely of these universes becomes the new Prime Universe. The cycle then repeats itself."

In Chrono terms, the Non-Prime Universes are then sent to the Darkness Beyond Time. In non-Chrono terms, the Non-Prime Universes are still extant, but the temperature is stuck at Absolute Zero. Why? Because there is only a finite amount of energy, all of which gets allocated to each new Prime Universe.

Now, that is close to, but not quite the whole story. You see, when I developed this theory, I still accepted the flawed idea of linear(In the four-D sense, not the common three-D one) time. Time is NOT linear.

Join me, if you will in a short thought-experiment. Imagine, if you will, a time-stop. We are looking at an airplane at thirty-thousand feet. Does the airplane just hang there? NO! it begins to fall. Time does NOT act on gravity. It is, rather, the other way around. Time acts on the Electroweak and Strong Nuclear forces. That is all.

So, If time has stopped, how can the airplane still fall? Well to begin with, what I described was not a true timestop. It was more a Time Egg-esque timestop. A true timestop is when everything in the universe exists at absolute zero, because time does not flow for a substance at absolute zero. Electrons freeze in their very orbits.

Back to our timestop-in-seeming. Why does the airplane fall? PTime. PTime is the causative factor behind the Many-Worlds Theorem above. Time as we see it advances because electrons advance from Point A to Point B in our brains, generating our consciousness as they do so. Time as it actually has effect on the universe exist as an extremely fast skipping from one set of probabilities to the next.

PTime is a Hyper-hypersphere, that is, the five dimensional spatial configuration which is equivalent to a sphere. It's dimensions are NOT infinite, because Infinity would imply binaryness¹. That said, it must be extremely large, and growing ever larger. Each set of five dimensional coordinates refers to a set of four dimensional parameters, "Probabilities" if you will, that, when energized, expand out to form a Prime Universe

Okay, so that's PTime. Not only does it kill the Marle Paradox, it also explains why time stops when Serge and Co. switch timelines. I'll take questions now.


¹In any infinite construct, you could only be in one of two places, the center, or the outermost point. All other locations would be meaningless, because in such a construct of infinite size, any point that is not the outermost is effectivley the center and vice-versa. Imagine you are in a spaceship, on the outermost point of the infinite construct. You could never make it to the center, because the center is infinitely far away. Thus, your are effectively always at the outermost point. The same applies if you are in the center trying to reach the outermost point.