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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: How differents dimension came to be?
« on: February 17, 2008, 08:28:44 pm »That wouldn't work at all, energy is not the problem. Each dimension must be an entirely self-sufficient system other wise there we can't keep creating dimensions.
I will use fake units and dates for simplicity. The universe has 10 units of energy at year 0. An event occurs with more then one out come, the universe splits both with 5 energy. Next event they split, 4 dimensions 2.5 units of energy each. If this repeats then soon there wouldn't be enough energy to continue at all. Energy can't be "grown" only re-channeled just like eating.
This means that the split doesn't happen natural at all and must happen due to interference (as is the case in chrono cross) or we will all shrive up and die from lack of energy.
Yeah I came to that conclusion too, but it came to be pretty natural to me if you put this scenario on the road.
Cells split a certain amount of times until they die. By the end of that amount, the replication is pretty and much lessened. First, because the constant replication exhaust them and second, because the energy is less effective and harder to recharge.
If you see it this way, the entire universe has a limited amount of existence, after what the most obvious assumption is that it simple dies.
But I think that if we put the work on backwards... we get other point of view for it. This, of course, is pure speculation and theory.
We believe that the universe came to be from a great "bang" of energy and matter. Because of this... everything kept expanding away from the initial point of creation.
Now, if energy is lessened because the split of dimensions... every reply of the universe would be less energized and in time, they would stop to move... and began to travel backwards, probably because gravitational attraction. Which I believe it's called, "The big Crunch" Theory.
Then it travels until the origin point and explodes in a burst of energy enough to start the cycle again.
Well, I hope to have explained it... well.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: How differents dimension came to be?
« on: February 16, 2008, 09:38:34 pm »
Well, let's say that a dramatic event or key event take place. Thus, there is a certain amount of possible options to that certain event. A different dimension is created from that one... but still it doesn't seems to be viable in terms or energy.
I have been thinking and maybe dimension works in the way of cells. They divide themselves into other smaller version and in that way, energy is mantained, and balance.
I have been thinking and maybe dimension works in the way of cells. They divide themselves into other smaller version and in that way, energy is mantained, and balance.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / How differents dimension came to be?
« on: February 16, 2008, 12:00:43 am »
Well, I have been thinking this for a while and I think that maybe I can get good amount of points of view in this place.
The question is quite simple but... quite troublesome in some way.
How different dimensions came to exist... and how they work?
I dunno if this has been posted, if it's a stupid question... or if something is bad.
So... if something is bad... I'm truly sorry.
Well, the question came from things out of Chrono series... and the things that most strike me are about the amount of alternate realities that can exist and how they are born.
It's because a key event? or perhaps it's because a threath to time itself?
What do you think?
PD: Just want to say that the answer doesn't had to fit in the Chrono series, cuz this is more a general question.
About dimensional mechanics and how they work, themselves and with other factors such as time.
The question is quite simple but... quite troublesome in some way.
How different dimensions came to exist... and how they work?
I dunno if this has been posted, if it's a stupid question... or if something is bad.
So... if something is bad... I'm truly sorry.
Well, the question came from things out of Chrono series... and the things that most strike me are about the amount of alternate realities that can exist and how they are born.
It's because a key event? or perhaps it's because a threath to time itself?
What do you think?
PD: Just want to say that the answer doesn't had to fit in the Chrono series, cuz this is more a general question.
About dimensional mechanics and how they work, themselves and with other factors such as time.
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Is Time Traveler Immunity Perpetual?
« on: February 15, 2008, 11:48:22 pm »
Mmm.. I think that TTI works only while time travelling, just as a safety system to keep whatever that travels to alter or lose is own form, abilities or else, and by that to be affected by the changes made to the timeline.
Still when you came to a certain era or place or time, you cease the TTI or better said, you put it on standby, cuz you are now into the flow of time again and even when you don't belong to that place, you are now a part of it... until, of course, you leave again.
That could explain why when you time travel you don't actually change or de-evolve and why you can change into a certain place outside your original timeline. (Example: Magic recieved in the EoT, Dead of Chrono, etc.)
It should work the same way in the Dimensional travelling, because it's... some kind of universal constant.
"When a body traverse his own flux of time or space and reach another one, the body retains all the qualities it had. That way energy is conserved and time or space itself doesn't suffer a critical alteration that may threath his own design."
Something like that.
Well, hope that what I had written was something logical.. .and not just a bunch of silly stuff.
Hope that helps you... too.
That's it. Bye
Still when you came to a certain era or place or time, you cease the TTI or better said, you put it on standby, cuz you are now into the flow of time again and even when you don't belong to that place, you are now a part of it... until, of course, you leave again.
That could explain why when you time travel you don't actually change or de-evolve and why you can change into a certain place outside your original timeline. (Example: Magic recieved in the EoT, Dead of Chrono, etc.)
It should work the same way in the Dimensional travelling, because it's... some kind of universal constant.
"When a body traverse his own flux of time or space and reach another one, the body retains all the qualities it had. That way energy is conserved and time or space itself doesn't suffer a critical alteration that may threath his own design."
Something like that.
Well, hope that what I had written was something logical.. .and not just a bunch of silly stuff.
Hope that helps you... too.
That's it. Bye
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Ayla
« on: February 15, 2008, 11:29:01 pm »
Point taken and accepted.
I want to apologize for making such a straigh-forward post in a lot of senses. But well, mistakes are the salt of the sea... or it was something like that.
Everyone in the game, in one or other sense... had a harsh life... and if it is seen from just one point of view... it can seem that yeah, there are one that seems most difficult than others.
But in fact, everyone suffered.... and still they get over with it... in some or other way.
Still, I think that even when Ayla is not the most great character... (I like her, but it's not the greatest) she have something the others lack. (As she lacks a lot of stuff the others had)
And it comes from a world untainted by Lavos, or even what we call and advance civilization. What she points in all the game is the obvious... but it has his own wisdom.
I came to share the point of view about Magus that was posted later (up) but I just said that because I came to share similar life events with him (not that my entire civilization was wiped out)... and hold some kind of grudge (dunno if against him or destiny... or else)... because no matter what, when things like that happens there is no turning back. You lose something and nothing can bring it back. Even if you search it for eternity. (I hope to be wrong on that...)
About Frog... well, yeah, I always admired his way of thinking, especially for someone of that age... but still when I refered to Glenn's wars, I meant the wars waged in his time, not his personal one.
Dunno if I'm wrong but his problems came to be more about his own nature. He can't (probably because he doesn't want) to forgive himself and go on, and continues to blame about the past. He is blinded by his own self-pity. I think that Cyrus came to see the true Glenn and knew how strong and kind he truly was... but for Frog... all he can do was failing to others and most important: to himself.
In simple, and maybe wrong, words... all the sadness in his life came from being unable to accept himself, which is, ironically, a similar issue in Magus, though he in fact can't seem to accept the sad events that happened through all his life.
(And I don't blame him... truly)
I want to apologize for making such a straigh-forward post in a lot of senses. But well, mistakes are the salt of the sea... or it was something like that.
Everyone in the game, in one or other sense... had a harsh life... and if it is seen from just one point of view... it can seem that yeah, there are one that seems most difficult than others.
But in fact, everyone suffered.... and still they get over with it... in some or other way.
Still, I think that even when Ayla is not the most great character... (I like her, but it's not the greatest) she have something the others lack. (As she lacks a lot of stuff the others had)
And it comes from a world untainted by Lavos, or even what we call and advance civilization. What she points in all the game is the obvious... but it has his own wisdom.
I came to share the point of view about Magus that was posted later (up) but I just said that because I came to share similar life events with him (not that my entire civilization was wiped out)... and hold some kind of grudge (dunno if against him or destiny... or else)... because no matter what, when things like that happens there is no turning back. You lose something and nothing can bring it back. Even if you search it for eternity. (I hope to be wrong on that...)
About Frog... well, yeah, I always admired his way of thinking, especially for someone of that age... but still when I refered to Glenn's wars, I meant the wars waged in his time, not his personal one.
Dunno if I'm wrong but his problems came to be more about his own nature. He can't (probably because he doesn't want) to forgive himself and go on, and continues to blame about the past. He is blinded by his own self-pity. I think that Cyrus came to see the true Glenn and knew how strong and kind he truly was... but for Frog... all he can do was failing to others and most important: to himself.
In simple, and maybe wrong, words... all the sadness in his life came from being unable to accept himself, which is, ironically, a similar issue in Magus, though he in fact can't seem to accept the sad events that happened through all his life.
(And I don't blame him... truly)
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Ayla
« on: February 14, 2008, 06:43:34 pm »
Mmm... well.
Let's put it this way.
From all the character in Chrono Trigger, we all can asume and know that Ayla had the MOST harsh life of all.
Chrono and Co... well they came form a time when modern marvels let life be a simple a peaceful on. Magus, still with all his problems and fears... is just a spoiled kid, from a spoiled race that flew to near the sun. They had almost everything... even more than the modern people. Robo, it's a robot and besides he was created in an artificial way... and lived in a horrible time period... he was deactivated all the time until he was found... and probably when he lived the times were peaceful.
Frog, well Frog came from a warring world... but still, it's a different form of war. Ayla's war was for food, for living another day.... every day, and the Glenn's war were the more modern view of war, where even when people can coexist in a world, they fight because they can't learn to accept the other and their differences.
This is why Ayla seems so wise and truthful (she is after all). She has no motives to lie or deceive cuz she hails from the innocent humanity, the one that was so concerned to keep themselves alive that didn't had time to plot or make strange systems. Straigh-forwards in all the sense...
I always liked her, cuz in the very end... she has what we all lack in this age... she has innocence. Not the innocence of being stupid to understand things. The one that comes from knowing the truth without masking it with moral or silly stuff. If you think about it... the society we created, after all this time, is based in a bunch of lies and masks. And as we all know... that kind of stuff always bring troubles and sadness.
Now about why is bad a good human. Well that's sort of rethorical question.... but is a good question indeed.
Humanity NEEDS to believe they are wrong, they are bad and they are selfish, as they need to believe they are good, right and kind. They need to remind themselves how low they had came to be cuz saying yourself a thing all the day, all the time... well... in the end... turns that to be truth, even if it is a lie.
We are no good or evil, we just keeping telling ourselves things to don't face the reality. If things turn sour then they are bad... and if things are great for us... then... of course they are good.
An example of this is the global warming. Everyone says that is bad... but they truly care about the planet... about the things we have destroyed... or they are just concerned about the fact that maybe... the humans will not survive.
If the world collapses... we all know that it will heal, yeah... millions and billions of time... but the world can wait that time... and maybe... maybe then life will appear again.
I'm not saying that all the stuff we created is bad. After all, we had came to be what we are... cuz of the hard work, sacrificies and suffering of all our kinsmen from all the past ages. The important stuff is not being good or bad.
After all, Chaos and Order are the same stuff, just in different ways.
But well, enough with that... sorry for saying so many things... that didn't belong to this place.
Well kiddos.
That's all.
Bye
Let's put it this way.
From all the character in Chrono Trigger, we all can asume and know that Ayla had the MOST harsh life of all.
Chrono and Co... well they came form a time when modern marvels let life be a simple a peaceful on. Magus, still with all his problems and fears... is just a spoiled kid, from a spoiled race that flew to near the sun. They had almost everything... even more than the modern people. Robo, it's a robot and besides he was created in an artificial way... and lived in a horrible time period... he was deactivated all the time until he was found... and probably when he lived the times were peaceful.
Frog, well Frog came from a warring world... but still, it's a different form of war. Ayla's war was for food, for living another day.... every day, and the Glenn's war were the more modern view of war, where even when people can coexist in a world, they fight because they can't learn to accept the other and their differences.
This is why Ayla seems so wise and truthful (she is after all). She has no motives to lie or deceive cuz she hails from the innocent humanity, the one that was so concerned to keep themselves alive that didn't had time to plot or make strange systems. Straigh-forwards in all the sense...
I always liked her, cuz in the very end... she has what we all lack in this age... she has innocence. Not the innocence of being stupid to understand things. The one that comes from knowing the truth without masking it with moral or silly stuff. If you think about it... the society we created, after all this time, is based in a bunch of lies and masks. And as we all know... that kind of stuff always bring troubles and sadness.
Now about why is bad a good human. Well that's sort of rethorical question.... but is a good question indeed.
Humanity NEEDS to believe they are wrong, they are bad and they are selfish, as they need to believe they are good, right and kind. They need to remind themselves how low they had came to be cuz saying yourself a thing all the day, all the time... well... in the end... turns that to be truth, even if it is a lie.
We are no good or evil, we just keeping telling ourselves things to don't face the reality. If things turn sour then they are bad... and if things are great for us... then... of course they are good.
An example of this is the global warming. Everyone says that is bad... but they truly care about the planet... about the things we have destroyed... or they are just concerned about the fact that maybe... the humans will not survive.
If the world collapses... we all know that it will heal, yeah... millions and billions of time... but the world can wait that time... and maybe... maybe then life will appear again.
I'm not saying that all the stuff we created is bad. After all, we had came to be what we are... cuz of the hard work, sacrificies and suffering of all our kinsmen from all the past ages. The important stuff is not being good or bad.
After all, Chaos and Order are the same stuff, just in different ways.
But well, enough with that... sorry for saying so many things... that didn't belong to this place.
Well kiddos.
That's all.
Bye
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: Guardia Royal Line Paradox
« on: February 14, 2008, 05:12:19 pm »
Mmm... well, maybe I'm in an error... and after all this is a theory. But I think this work some sort of this way.
Life (yeah, it exist) is about possibilities, which means that our actions tend to change in small or big scale the way the world continue to exist, his shape, in simple words, but we cannot backtrack them.
So time travel is still into that kind of possibilities only that it works in a different sense. Think about time travelling just in the way that a writer look upon a book. When something is wrote you can change it from the outside of the written world, but from the inside it's seen as a unchangeable reality. (A bit of Deux ex machina if you ask me.... or in this particular case "Entity ex machina")
Time traveling then alows you to rewrite the temporal equations, because as we all know there are a lot of ways to reach a result, be it the same or different, sort of what happens in chrono cross.
My point here, to make this short and simple is that perhaps we are thinking that leaving a place changes ALL the possible futures... while in truth, things only change if they are o aren't realized.
If we see it this way, the last theory makes pretty much sense. Because Ayla travelled BEFORE having kids.. so the story didn't change... or we can see it in the other way that no matter when an event happens it's his fullfilling what matters. (This last point allows the changes made because that lapsus of time possible, but still mantain the great design unchanged).
Seeing it this way, and setting something as an example, we can take the bad end. If our heroes died before the defeat of Lavos, then all the options to change the future would had been futile, cuz they dissapeared in the stream of time. But this didn't mean that they never existed... they simple dissapeared from their timelines, probably alterating the future with unexpected consequences. (Like Guardia waging a war to find princess Marle... or the events of Chrono Cross being unable to happen, in the way they happen)
Well, that is. Sorry for pointing the obvious... but well, hope it serve in some way.
That's it. Bye
Life (yeah, it exist) is about possibilities, which means that our actions tend to change in small or big scale the way the world continue to exist, his shape, in simple words, but we cannot backtrack them.
So time travel is still into that kind of possibilities only that it works in a different sense. Think about time travelling just in the way that a writer look upon a book. When something is wrote you can change it from the outside of the written world, but from the inside it's seen as a unchangeable reality. (A bit of Deux ex machina if you ask me.... or in this particular case "Entity ex machina")
Time traveling then alows you to rewrite the temporal equations, because as we all know there are a lot of ways to reach a result, be it the same or different, sort of what happens in chrono cross.
My point here, to make this short and simple is that perhaps we are thinking that leaving a place changes ALL the possible futures... while in truth, things only change if they are o aren't realized.
If we see it this way, the last theory makes pretty much sense. Because Ayla travelled BEFORE having kids.. so the story didn't change... or we can see it in the other way that no matter when an event happens it's his fullfilling what matters. (This last point allows the changes made because that lapsus of time possible, but still mantain the great design unchanged).
Seeing it this way, and setting something as an example, we can take the bad end. If our heroes died before the defeat of Lavos, then all the options to change the future would had been futile, cuz they dissapeared in the stream of time. But this didn't mean that they never existed... they simple dissapeared from their timelines, probably alterating the future with unexpected consequences. (Like Guardia waging a war to find princess Marle... or the events of Chrono Cross being unable to happen, in the way they happen)
Well, that is. Sorry for pointing the obvious... but well, hope it serve in some way.
That's it. Bye
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: The Green Lavos Gate
« on: January 24, 2008, 05:44:44 pm »
It's the normal stuff. Chrono & Co, would have a lot of trouble carrying all those weapons and items... going so much time without eating, W.C and all that.
Besides if you want a more... logical explanation, it could be to distinct that gate from the plot ones, just as a shortcut.
About the nature... of the gates, in the earlier post, well it could be true... but I tend to think that the lucca gate is red because of the entity more than her element affinity.
Y'know... always thinking that Dreamstone as something to do with that. (But it's just a distant possibility)
Well, that's all.
Bye.
PD: OH, figured it... it's the color for the Lavos PD... !!!! XD
Besides if you want a more... logical explanation, it could be to distinct that gate from the plot ones, just as a shortcut.
About the nature... of the gates, in the earlier post, well it could be true... but I tend to think that the lucca gate is red because of the entity more than her element affinity.
Y'know... always thinking that Dreamstone as something to do with that. (But it's just a distant possibility)
Well, that's all.
Bye.
PD: OH, figured it... it's the color for the Lavos PD... !!!! XD
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Time, Space, and Dimensions / Re: The Red Lucca Gate
« on: January 21, 2008, 05:18:50 pm »
Well, I have some sort of personal theory for that, but still is pretty weak.
Maybe, and just maybe the gate it's made by Lucca.
You see, the planet, entity or whatever can create gates to relive it's memories and somehow try to improve them. Why, well... that's another topic.
The point in here is that maybe that gate it's different, because it doesn't relive a key-moment of the planet, it only change a point (a key point) in Lucca's life.
Obviously we can discuss the nature of the creator of the gate, but still it fuels from Lucca own memory.
Because of this, we can see two possible scenarios. (in fact there are a lot more, but I'll put the two great and more human ethical ones)
Good Scenario (A.K.A "The entity way"): In this possible solution, the gate it's fueled by the entity in an attempt to show Lucca an example of what it's doing. By helping his mom, probably Lucca gains a bit more understanding about the entity nature, early discussed, and why the gates and all the adventure took place.
This also leads to the fact that, besides what happens, the true power of fate it's ruled by intentions, free will and inner strengh... more than events, although these are obvioulsy important. (Such as what happens with the masamune after the ghost sidequest)
Bad Scenario (A.K.A "Lavos way"): In this possible solution, the gate it's fueled by Lavos in an attempt to stop Lucca from starting all the menace that the journey implies.
Still, things goes sour and besides the result, Lucca still become what she is... although her own motivation it's fueled by two different event... making probably a slight change, not in the events... but in her way to see the world.
The same fact it's re-stated in this explanation, inner strengh and free will are the true source of fate.
We can still think other way to see this event... and think that the entity itself created this gate, while all the other gates are created by the planet/Lavos struggle, in which the party it's a kind of inmunological system... or arbiter.
Maybe it's a gift, after all the long way and work Lucca has done. (Yeah, the party has seen and suffered a lot, but Lucca is probably the only one with the caliber to see the events behind that gate)
Of course this is just a silly theory... so there should be a lot flaw points.
Well, that's all.
Bye
Maybe, and just maybe the gate it's made by Lucca.
You see, the planet, entity or whatever can create gates to relive it's memories and somehow try to improve them. Why, well... that's another topic.
The point in here is that maybe that gate it's different, because it doesn't relive a key-moment of the planet, it only change a point (a key point) in Lucca's life.
Obviously we can discuss the nature of the creator of the gate, but still it fuels from Lucca own memory.
Because of this, we can see two possible scenarios. (in fact there are a lot more, but I'll put the two great and more human ethical ones)
Good Scenario (A.K.A "The entity way"): In this possible solution, the gate it's fueled by the entity in an attempt to show Lucca an example of what it's doing. By helping his mom, probably Lucca gains a bit more understanding about the entity nature, early discussed, and why the gates and all the adventure took place.
This also leads to the fact that, besides what happens, the true power of fate it's ruled by intentions, free will and inner strengh... more than events, although these are obvioulsy important. (Such as what happens with the masamune after the ghost sidequest)
Bad Scenario (A.K.A "Lavos way"): In this possible solution, the gate it's fueled by Lavos in an attempt to stop Lucca from starting all the menace that the journey implies.
Still, things goes sour and besides the result, Lucca still become what she is... although her own motivation it's fueled by two different event... making probably a slight change, not in the events... but in her way to see the world.
The same fact it's re-stated in this explanation, inner strengh and free will are the true source of fate.
We can still think other way to see this event... and think that the entity itself created this gate, while all the other gates are created by the planet/Lavos struggle, in which the party it's a kind of inmunological system... or arbiter.
Maybe it's a gift, after all the long way and work Lucca has done. (Yeah, the party has seen and suffered a lot, but Lucca is probably the only one with the caliber to see the events behind that gate)
Of course this is just a silly theory... so there should be a lot flaw points.
Well, that's all.
Bye
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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / Re: Welcome, welcome!
« on: January 21, 2008, 04:42:45 pm »
Mmm... it's Spanish... something not so uncommon these days. Jjeje.
I hail from South America.
Well, sorry for the spam... jeje.
I hail from South America.
Well, sorry for the spam... jeje.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: (...)We loved so many, yet hated so much(...)
« on: January 21, 2008, 02:21:17 am »
Well, I guess it can be a lot of things if you like, and take the time to read.
In practical world it's a sort of poethical prologue (I like it, btw), a way to inmerse you in a few lines... into the world of the game, and the atmosphere should have.
Then... if you become a little more paranoiac... you can think that it holds some kind of "introductional" meaning behind all that words.
The first lines of the poem, prologue, verse... whatever, tell of the uncertain past.
We know nothing or little between the Trigger and Cross game, except for some key events, such as Guardia fall, character fates... etc.
The third and fourth lines... well, they could refer to some kind of impossibility of time travelling or dimensional, probably because of the Ideal Timeline (that means that time was finally healed from it's scars).
The next lines could tell you about the normal setting of relations in a game, because you can feel all you want towards a certain enemy... or character. And your actions surely have some consequence in all the world.
Then the last part of the text, told you about the ability to pick your own destiny inside the game, by choosing your own course of action... even when a plot exist and must be followed.
But that's just a bunch of silly analisis.. from me.
So... well... as you see... it's all up to how you see it.
In practical world it's a sort of poethical prologue (I like it, btw), a way to inmerse you in a few lines... into the world of the game, and the atmosphere should have.
Then... if you become a little more paranoiac... you can think that it holds some kind of "introductional" meaning behind all that words.
The first lines of the poem, prologue, verse... whatever, tell of the uncertain past.
We know nothing or little between the Trigger and Cross game, except for some key events, such as Guardia fall, character fates... etc.
The third and fourth lines... well, they could refer to some kind of impossibility of time travelling or dimensional, probably because of the Ideal Timeline (that means that time was finally healed from it's scars).
The next lines could tell you about the normal setting of relations in a game, because you can feel all you want towards a certain enemy... or character. And your actions surely have some consequence in all the world.
Then the last part of the text, told you about the ability to pick your own destiny inside the game, by choosing your own course of action... even when a plot exist and must be followed.
But that's just a bunch of silly analisis.. from me.
So... well... as you see... it's all up to how you see it.
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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / Re: Welcome, welcome!
« on: January 21, 2008, 01:52:47 am »
Well, my name is Zariel... and I hope I can help a bit in here, learn and have fun.
Although I'm only good at writing and thinking, I'll try my best.
Just saying Hi.
Bye.
Ps: I'm not a native speaker of english... so forgive me.. if my english grammar is too bad.
Well, that's all.
Bye now.
Although I'm only good at writing and thinking, I'll try my best.
Just saying Hi.
Bye.
Ps: I'm not a native speaker of english... so forgive me.. if my english grammar is too bad.
Well, that's all.
Bye now.
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