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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2009, 02:12:00 pm »
Wait, so Sneff has actually traveled through the Temporal Vortex? Isn't that something of note in itself?

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2009, 02:21:32 pm »
Yeah, he was once in Temporal Vortex.
But "an old troll" is not metioned by him.

But I believe he met Sprigg now. The English translator must have received further information, or how could him/her invent "a troll"?
About the name, as I metioned in that topic, they are really confusing. I'm not surprised he/she translated it as "Bend of Time". LOL



Wait, does Sprigg look like a Troll?  :shock:
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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2009, 06:28:16 pm »
But how did Sneff got into the Vortex?

Other than a similar case like Sprigg's, I don't see how was he able to.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2009, 06:50:27 pm »
Indeed, we seem to have inadvertently stumbled upon something extremely important. Then again, we don't know how Sprigg ended up in the Vortex either...maybe Sneff getting out is more important than how he got in.

And I doubt Sprigg's involvement is a fabrication on the part of the English localization team. The translators had some help from Kato, so maybe he pointed them in the right direction with the troll. I mean, Sprigg isn't specifically noted to be the troll, but it's the assumed theory.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2009, 06:58:41 pm »
Indeed, we seem to have inadvertently stumbled upon something extremely important. Then again, we don't know how Sprigg ended up in the Vortex either...maybe Sneff getting out is more important than how he got in.

But, we know how he could have gotten out. Serge had to do it once.

Just entering through the correct doors in the tower, then go to the portal that leads you to the Hydra Marshes.

Getting in would still be unkown.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2009, 07:37:50 pm »
That's true--it's not impossible to leave, but there would be some great implications if he'd stayed with Sprigg: if Sprigg taught Sneff some of his magic, I'd expect the two of 'em to have made some sort of alliance. But you are correct, not knowing how he got in is devastatingly important.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #126 on: February 15, 2009, 12:44:54 am »
My mistake, I checked the location names again. Bend of Time is also called 次元の狭間, same as Temporal Vortex, hmm
But since he metioned "fruit", so I assume it should be Temporal Vortex.


The game doesn't hint enough how he was able to be in Temporal Vortex.
He was on sort of training, perhaps he read an old magical book...but who knows.
And it seems someone can enter Temporal Vortex, for example, Harle.

Sprigg couldn't leave TV by herself, but Sneff did that(perhaps he figured out the trick in the tower). So perhaps Sneff didn't met Sprigg(according to the JPN script), or else Spigg would have followed him.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #127 on: February 15, 2009, 01:36:45 pm »
Sprigg couldn't leave TV by herself, but Sneff did that(perhaps he figured out the trick in the tower). So perhaps Sneff didn't met Sprigg(according to the JPN script), or else Spigg would have followed him.

Maybe they did try to leave together, but Sprigg got stuck or fell behind somehow?

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #128 on: February 15, 2009, 01:43:46 pm »
It seems Sneff doesn't know Sprigg. If he does, he should talk to her when she's in your team.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #129 on: February 15, 2009, 02:27:05 pm »
Maybe they did try to leave together, but Sprigg got stuck or fell behind somehow?
Or perhaps Sprigg elected not to go back, or was it explicitly stated that she couldn't leave on her own?

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #130 on: February 15, 2009, 02:29:58 pm »
The game lacks certain talks between characters.

If they do know each other, then it's just another one that the game lacks.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #131 on: February 15, 2009, 03:26:38 pm »
Umm... this sorta just crossed my mind but are they able to create more text than the jap script had? For instance if it is only one box they can only use one box, if there two lines they have to use two lines? Perhaps they added meeting the troll to imply going to the temporal vortex although I don't know why they would put berry instead of fruit, same amount of characters. Or maybe they did it because Kato wanted them to. Or maybe the translator liked them meeting.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #132 on: February 15, 2009, 04:11:12 pm »
Unlike CT, CC's NA script is more detailed than JPN script.

These 2 places(Bend of Time and Temporal Vortex) are both called "a narrow gap between dimensions" in JPN version. Perhaps the translator asked which one does Sneff metion, and the answer was "the one with a troll in it".
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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #133 on: February 15, 2009, 06:42:20 pm »
They have the same name? That's kind of weird. What's the connection although I don't want an answer like they both are not in the dimensions.

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Re: Where did the Mystics come from?
« Reply #134 on: February 15, 2009, 08:44:44 pm »
Maybe they did try to leave together, but Sprigg got stuck or fell behind somehow?
Or perhaps Sprigg elected not to go back, or was it explicitly stated that she couldn't leave on her own?
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