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We're prioritizing the items below in this order. If you feel like volunteering, definitely start at the top if you can!
 
We're prioritizing the items below in this order. If you feel like volunteering, definitely start at the top if you can!
  
*Chrono Trigger V-Jump Preview 2
 
*Brut Press Volume
 
*Chrono Trigger Ultimania
 
 
*Chrono Trigger V-Jump Player's Guide Interview
 
*Chrono Trigger V-Jump Player's Guide Interview
*Chrono Cross Missing Piece Pages
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*Chrono Trigger Prerelease Coverage
*Chrono Cross Ultimania Pages
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*V-Jump Magazine Coverage
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*Chrono Cross V-Jump Interview Video
 
*Chrono Cross V-Jump Interview Video
*Chrono Trigger DS, portions relating to new dungeons (pending script)
 
 
*Mitsuda interviews from Más allá del Tiempo
 
*Mitsuda interviews from Más allá del Tiempo
 
*Chrono Trigger OAV Manga
 
*Chrono Trigger OAV Manga
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===Script===
 
===Script===
  
*[[Translated Text (CTP)]] (undecipherable portions from earlier builds); note that RyogaMasaki probably has translated this as well as will ever be possible at this point
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*[[Translated Text (CTP)]] (undecipherable portions from earlier builds); note that RyogaMasaki probably has translated this as well as will ever be possible at this point.
  
 
==Chrono Trigger==
 
==Chrono Trigger==
 
===[[1995 Gendai Plus Chrono Trigger Feature]]===
 
 
Discusses workplace life at Square. Download [http://chronofan.com/Black/Video/Gendai_Plus_Chrono_Trigger.mp4 here]. Any help translating what is said would be appreciated.
 
  
 
===[[Chrono Trigger OAV Manga]]===
 
===[[Chrono Trigger OAV Manga]]===
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<Gallery>
 
<Gallery>
Image:Card_rules.jpg|Contest rules
 
Image:Card_used.jpg|Contest sheet (used)
 
Image:Frontcover2.jpg|Contest prizes
 
Image:P29.jpg|29 3D Epoch
 
 
Image:P38.jpg|38 Dream Team
 
Image:P38.jpg|38 Dream Team
Image:P52.jpg|52 Character relations
 
Image:P53.jpg|53 Character dialogue
 
Image:P140.jpg|140 3D Epoch
 
 
Image:P149.jpg|149 Dream Team interview
 
Image:P149.jpg|149 Dream Team interview
 
Image:P150.jpg|150 Dream Team interview
 
Image:P150.jpg|150 Dream Team interview
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Image:P184.jpg|184 Comics
 
Image:P184.jpg|184 Comics
 
Image:P185.jpg|185 Comics
 
Image:P185.jpg|185 Comics
Image:P186.jpg|186 Unknown
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Image:P186.jpg|186 Feature on TV commercial with clock mechanism
Image:P187.jpg|187 Unknown
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Image:P187.jpg|187 Feature on TV commercial with clock mechanism
Image:P190.jpg|190 Table of Contents, maybe
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Image:P190.jpg|190 Table of Contents
 
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</gallery>
  
 
===[[Chrono Trigger Prerelease Coverage]]===
 
===[[Chrono Trigger Prerelease Coverage]]===
  
Includes material on Chrono Cross, as well. We're hoping for something unique in here. The translations will be kept on that page.
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Includes material on Chrono Cross, as well. We're hoping for something unique in here. The translations will be kept on that page. We've looked over most of them with Google Lens, but there a few untranslated interviews that would be great to have (look for "Priority" in the text, or anything that says "Interview").
 
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===Brut Press Volume, December 1994===
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Recovered by Cabbusses's Retro Obscurities [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VN-nHzyEk here]. Download the original file [http://chronofan.com/Black/Video/Brut_Press_Volume_Dec_1994.mp4 here] (MP4, 250 MB). Original NicoNico URLs, now down:
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* http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21657890
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* http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21628083
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* http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21657890
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A rip of a Brut Press volume from Dec. 1994 (sm21657890 + sm21628083 + sm21657890 -【非売品】ブルートプレス Vol 17 19). Contains previews for various Super Famicom and PC-FX titles. Chrono Trigger coverage starts at roughly ~15:43. Among the findings:
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* Different dialogue box
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* Different instrumentation for some songs (Chrono Trigger, Lavos's Theme, Battle 1 (very briefly))
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* A possible demo version of [[Battle]] 1's percussion/drum track
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* Mock-up battles ([[Goon]] on [[Zenan Bridge]]; [[Gato]] on the [[Blackbird]])
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Translation is hopefully forthcoming.
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==Chrono Cross==
 
==Chrono Cross==
 
===[[Chrono Cross V-Jump Preview Video]]===
 
 
No transcription of the spoken text exists. The video isn't very long. It can be downloaded [http://chronofan.com/Black/Video/Chrono%20Cross%20-%20V-Jump%201999.mp4 here] (MP4, 22.2 MB).
 
 
===Chrono Cross [[Ultimania]]===
 
 
====Main Book====
 
 
<gallery>
 
Image:464-465.jpg|464-465 Secrets
 
Image:466-467.jpg|466-467 Secrets
 
Image:468-469.jpg|468-469
 
Image:Int4.jpg|474-475
 
Image:Int6.jpg|478-479
 
Image:Int7.jpg|480-481
 
Image:Int8.jpg|482-483
 
Image:484-485.jpg|484-485 (interview portion)
 
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Chrono Cross Reading Guide
 
 
In this section, we will select parts of the story of "Chrono Cross" that may be particularly difficult to understand and explain them, including links to related works. Since the contents are quite in-depth, we recommend that you read this section after you have completed the game, if possible. This section was compiled with the cooperation of scenario writer Masato Kato.
 
 
Frozen Flame
 
 
A legendary treasure said to heal all wounds and make any dream come true.
 
 
The Frozen Flame is a generic name for a fragment of a life form, of which there have been several since ancient times. The Frozen Flame, the subject of this work, was discovered in El Nido in the year 2300 A.D. It is one of the most powerful and dangerous of the fragments.
 
It is said to have the power to manipulate time and fulfill wishes, but only a few people are able to use its power, and it is called the "living stone with a will" because it seems as if the stone itself chooses its users. It is also known as the "Shining Flame" because of its fiery red appearance.
 
 
Arbiter
 
 
The flame recognizes you as a mediator, depending on your choice. The frozen flame cannot be used, or even touched, except by those whom the flame itself recognizes. The term "mediator" refers to those who can do this, those who are "chosen by the flame," those who can link to the life form of the flame through the frozen flame and serve as mediators between the life form and the life of the planet. The mediator can be a powerful force. The mediator has great power, but if he or she does not use that power to "mediate" between life forms, i.e., to stop the conflict between them and reduce the negative emotions that are the cause of the conflict, he or she risks becoming a "time eater" and leading the world to destruction. In "Chrono Trigger", Sara, who had the power to control the magical weapon, is said to have been a mediator.
 
 
LINK TO TRIGGER : Dreamstone
 
 
The red stone "Dreamstone" in "Chrono Trigger" and the frozen flame are of the same species. Dreanstone has been recognized since 65 million years B.C., when Lavos was still a star in the sky, and has been highly prized since that time. In particular, the people of the magical kingdom of Zeal, who prospered by harnessing the power of Lavos, made the most of the stone. Among their various inventions, the greatest was the "Mammon Machine," which was used so extensively that the kingdom collapsed.
 
 
The pendants of Masamune and Princess Schala were also made from dry stones during this period. Among these, Schala's pendant was once passed from Schala's hand, which was swallowed by a dimensional vortex, to someone else's, and then passed to the Guardia royal family, where it became Marle's. The story of the frozen flame told by Kersh at the Snake Bone Pavilion is related to this pendant. The northern kingdom that passed it down from generation to generation refers to the Kingdom of Guardia.
 
 
Serge and the Two Worlds
 
 
Radius. "This world is not one. There is another, different world in a different dimension.
 
 
The Prophet of Time. "The bond with the world that was severed 10 years ago..."
 
 
The parallel worlds are infinite in nature, but the subject of this story is the parallel world that diverged 10 years ago due to Serge's birth and death. Therefore, the events that took place before 10 years ago are the same in both HOME WORLD and ANOTHER WORLD. If there is any difference between the two worlds, it is that they were created within the last 10 years. Then, how was Serge able to move between these two worlds? Because his existence itself is the key to the bifurcation of the two worlds, and thus the dimensional boundary is uncertain for him. Furthermore, his first dimensional transition is related to the power of a woman who invited him from another dimension.
 
 
Serge's Fate
 
 
The world of man will soon come to an end. Then, Serge, you will become the world's enemy, and the world will become your enemy.
 
 
What do these ominous words imply? Does it mean that Dark Serge will be wreaking havoc in various parts of the world? Serge's defeat of the fates will result in the resurrection of the dragon god, the enemy of mankind, and the destruction of mankind.
 
 
Does this mean that Serge will not act as Arbiter? and will bring people to the brink of crisis?
 
 
If Serge defeats the Fate, he himself will eventually be assimilated by the Time Devourer and lead the world to destruction? There are so many factors that could make Serge an "enemy of the world."
 
 
Childhood Memories
 
 
"Serge, you almost drowned after that, you were in a lot of trouble. ......" (Lena) Originally Serge was supposed to die 10 years ago. The existence of Chronopolis in God's garden is an extension of his death. But die! His fate was to be rescued, and a new dimension called HOME WORLD was born. This is no coincidence. This is a deliberate divergence by someone who knew that this irregular world contained the danger of a world collapse (see the Dead Sea section) and still had hope for Serge's existence. Serge was only seven years old when he was rescued, but his memories remain. The images of the beach that are occasionally inserted into the film are scenes from 10 years ago that are still burned deep into Serge's mind.
 
 
The movie may seem casual, but it actually hides a very important meaning in the story.
 
 
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DeepL struggles with this page, but in short, Ultimania claims that Kid remembers Serge saving at her at the orphanage as a kid, and that she (despite being the only thief) calls him a Radical Dreamer, even before she's met him. Of course, this a predestination paradox and just silly, so, whatever, sigh...
 
 
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Garden of God / Dead Sea
 
 
"Sleeping, that flame. In the garden of God, where past and future meet.
 
 
The garden of God, the place where the past and the future intersect. There are rumors that time is reversed inside." (Sage) The Garden of God was created when Chronopolis, a building that should have been in the future in 2400 A.D., was sent back 10,000 years in time by a time crash. Therefore, the time here is different from that of the outside world. If the possibility of the future existence of Chronopolis and Fate were to disappear (which is what Fate fears the most), the Garden of God would also disappear.
 
 
Signs of the Dead Sea's Doom
 
 
The Dead Sea is the future of this planet in its original form. HOME WORLD is an irregular world that Fate never envisioned. In this world, the Dead Sea exists instead of the Garden of God. This means that beyond this timeline in which Serge lives, another future in which Chronopolis does not exist - in other words, the scene seen in the Dead Sea - awaits him. The scene that unfolds in the Dead Sea is the image of the destroyed future that Crono and his friends avoided (i.e., killed) in the previous work. In other words, it is implicitly shown that the world will collapse if Serge is still alive. This is related to the fact that Serge is an Arbiter. This future image was created because at the time Serge survived and visited the Dead Sea, it was more likely that he would be consumed by the Time Eaters and bring about the destruction of the world. However, the future shown here is a fluid one. The fate of the world after this time may change depending on Serge's subsequent actions.
 
 
'''ZEALITY NOTE''': This...how does this even work? The Time Devourer threatens to destroy all space-time, not just Home World. And it's still a threat, not a surefire thing that's occurred; why would it be reflected in Home World's future? And since it jeopardizes all space-time, wouldn't it also destroy Another World's future? Was there zero thought put into this game?!
 
 
LINK TO TRIGGER: Children's Vision
 
 
Children first appeared in the Dead Sea and are still seen in the Tower of Stars and on the beach of Opasa. They are Crono, Lucca, and Merle, the young boys and girls who saved the future in the previous "Crono Trigger". They know all the circumstances leading up to this point, which is why they repeatedly make meaningful statements. The fact that they say "they do not exist in this time line" or appear as phantoms implies that they are already deceased. This is not unrelated to the fact that the world of this work is on the timeline after the destruction of the Kingdom of Guardia. However, this is one of countless possible timelines. It does not necessarily mean that they met this fate after the previous work. From left, Merle, Crono, and Lucca. Crono is the main character of the previous film, but Lucca is most closely related to this film.
 
 
'''ZEALITY NOTE''': This is so weak. "Let's show Crono/Marle/Lucca, but not elaborate why they're dead, or even what timeline they're from." What was the point?
 
 
LINK TO TRIGGER : Nadia's Bell
 
 
Located at the center of the Time Crush explosion is the Leane Plaza from Chrono Trigger. This square is the starting point of the Chronos' adventures, and also the place where they are greeted after they have altered the future. The "Maardia Bell" was placed in this square to pray for continued peace after their adventures. Incidentally, the bell is named after Princess Mar's real name (Mar Dea).
 
 
Einlanzer/Masamune
 
 
The legendary sword forged by the people of the Dragon
 
 
... Radius.
 
 
The White Holy Sword ------"
 
 
Its Transition
 
 
The white shining holy sword, Einlanzer, and the cursed sword with a red blade, Grandrion. The history of these two swords is as follows. 1 Radius, obsessed with Grandrion on the continent, slays Garai. He takes custody of Einlanzer, and after returning to El Nido, he casts Grandrion into the sea. The place where the sword lands is transformed into a cursed magical island (birth of the Isle of the Dead).
 
 
2 Dario takes over Einlanzer from Radius.
 
 
3 Dario is possessed by Grandrion on the Isle of the Wraiths, and when Kersh tries to stop the runaway, he is cut down and sent to the bottom of the valley, along with Einlanzer. A bobcat, watching the whole scene, carries off the Grandrion. (*The above 123 are matters common to the two worlds, and the following are the branches of 4.)
 
 
In 4ANOTHER WORLD, Dario's body is found by a search party together with Illanzar, and they are buried in a mausoleum in Termina. In the HOME WORLD, after the search for Dario is terminated, Radius discovers Einlanzer. It is deposited on the island of the departed.
 
 
CHRONO CROSS ULTIMANIA
 
 
LINK TO TRIGGER : Grand Lyon
 
 
The Grandrion is a sword made from dreamstone, as mentioned in the section "Frozen Flame. This sword was forged by the sage Bosch in the magical kingdom of Zeal in the year 12000 B.C. It was originally a small knife. Originally a small knife, it was transformed into a long sword the moment it was used to stop the outburst of a magical weapon made from the same stone. The reason for the sword's great power is certainly related to the fact that it is made of Dreamstone, but how it became a magical sword remains a mystery.
 
 
LINK TO RADICAL: Einlanzer
 
 
The Einlanzer, along with the red sword Grand Lyon, is a sacred sword said to have been made by a wise man in ancient times. The White Sword of the Ancient Times, Einlanzer, should be able to defend against the evil of the Chamber of Death. It once danced like the wind in the hands of Brang, wielder of the sword of the Knights of Acacia, and was the star of the stars.
 
 
...... The Radical Dreamers
 
 
The holy sword Einlanzer also appeared in Radical Dreamers. Although the creator and owner of the sword are different from those in this work, they share the same ability to dispel evil spirits with its holy power.
 
 
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LINK TO TRIGGER: Prometheus
 
 
The name "Prometheus," a circuit inside Fate, comes from the official name of a fellow character from the previous work, Lobo, "Prometheus. However, this circuit is not the system used in Lobo itself. This is a safety program that Lucca completed at the end of the previous work in memory of Lobo, who had returned to the future, in order to prevent the machine from running out of control. It was not created for any specific purpose, but in the future, after its invention, Gush, who shares her ideology, actually incorporated this circuit into Fate.
 
 
'''ZEALITY NOTE''': This contradicts a separate Kato interview where he states that Prometheus truly is Robo.
 
  
 
==Chrono Break or Other Interviews==
 
==Chrono Break or Other Interviews==
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We also need someone to watch these and provide the gist of any portions that talk about the Chrono series. A Japanese fansite that tracks interviews confirms they do, but the Chrono content is unknown.  
 
We also need someone to watch these and provide the gist of any portions that talk about the Chrono series. A Japanese fansite that tracks interviews confirms they do, but the Chrono content is unknown.  
  
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Q17vJ_bp4 アナデンまつり2018春 アナザーエデン超感謝!祝リリース1周年生放送] (supposedly, Kato talks about Chrono Break on this one)
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0MQE8IS1IU FFXI もぎたてヴァナディール!第45回 (テスト放送付き)] - there's some discussion on the battle system of Chrono Trigger towards the last quarter of the interview; hard to parse any new information.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0MQE8IS1IU FFXI もぎたてヴァナディール!第45回 (テスト放送付き)]
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====Another Eden Stream====
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Masato Kato discusses Chrono Break in this one; see [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Q17vJ_bp4 here]. Using OpenAI's Whisper and DeepL, it appears the team We haven't had an actual translation by a volunteer, but I've used the OpenAI Whisper transcription tool to get what I can out of it. The raw text is below; here are my conclusions from feeding it into DeepL:
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* There's some discussion of Chrono Trigger in the first half of the video, where (Kato?) discusses having writer's block for developing the story for roughly a year after the project was started, and resisting being fired from the project.
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* He started brainstorming ideas for a new Chrono game shortly after Cross's release around 2000, with the idea that it would be a PS2-era game.
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* It really is intended to be titled "Break", not "Brake", as he was imagining a story about time literally breaking somehow (DeepL says, "And the title was something like, 'That's when it all goes to shit.'")
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* Preproduction was in session around 2000/2001 (including the registration of the trademark).
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* Final Fantasy Dimensions II ended up recycling the main scenario of the story!
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There's some mention of Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross afterwards, but it seems mostly inconsequential. The raw transcription is below. We're hoping someone will translate this snippet fully; see [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGvtqvAUOE this link].
  
 
''From'': [[Main Page]]
 
''From'': [[Main Page]]

Latest revision as of 21:52, 10 December 2023

The following documents need to be translated to achieve a greater understanding of the Chrono series. If you would like to volunteer, please contact chronocompendium@gmail.com. Your work will be invaluable in helping us crack the last few mysteries whose answers have been forever barred from Western audiences.

  • Priority List

We're prioritizing the items below in this order. If you feel like volunteering, definitely start at the top if you can!

  • Chrono Trigger V-Jump Player's Guide Interview
  • Chrono Trigger Prerelease Coverage
  • Chrono Cross V-Jump Interview Video
  • Mitsuda interviews from Más allá del Tiempo
  • Chrono Trigger OAV Manga
  • Chrono Trigger Prerelease (Undecipherable Text from Earlier Builds)
  • Youtube Another Eden and FF Interviews

Chrono Trigger Prerelease

Script

  • Translated Text (CTP) (undecipherable portions from earlier builds); note that RyogaMasaki probably has translated this as well as will ever be possible at this point.

Chrono Trigger

Chrono Trigger OAV Manga

It's around ~160 pages and intended for a young reading level, so perhaps it won't be as difficult to translate as other stuff. If possible, a scanlation would be mind-blowingly awesome.

NOTE: EVERYTHING THROUGH GATE 3 HAS BEEN TRANSLATED AT THIS TIME (PAGES 26-27.JPG). IF YOU'D LIKE TO HELP, START WITH 28, AND THANKS!

Chrono Trigger V-Jump Player's Guide

This guide is a goldmine of interviews and special features, including some early character sketches by Toriyama (see Official Art) for those.

Chrono Trigger Prerelease Coverage

Includes material on Chrono Cross, as well. We're hoping for something unique in here. The translations will be kept on that page. We've looked over most of them with Google Lens, but there a few untranslated interviews that would be great to have (look for "Priority" in the text, or anything that says "Interview").

Chrono Cross

Chrono Break or Other Interviews

Mas alla del Tiempo

The book Más allá del Tiempo was published in 2015 and later translated to French, containing interviews with Masato Kato and Yasunori Mitsuda:

The Kato interview has been translated:

2015 - Masato Kato, by Mariela Gonzalez

The Mitsuda interview has not been translated to English. If any Spanish-speaking of French-speaking Chrono fans can provide the Mitsuda interview, it would be hugely appreciated.

Youtube Interviews

We also need someone to watch these and provide the gist of any portions that talk about the Chrono series. A Japanese fansite that tracks interviews confirms they do, but the Chrono content is unknown.

Another Eden Stream

Masato Kato discusses Chrono Break in this one; see here. Using OpenAI's Whisper and DeepL, it appears the team We haven't had an actual translation by a volunteer, but I've used the OpenAI Whisper transcription tool to get what I can out of it. The raw text is below; here are my conclusions from feeding it into DeepL:

  • There's some discussion of Chrono Trigger in the first half of the video, where (Kato?) discusses having writer's block for developing the story for roughly a year after the project was started, and resisting being fired from the project.
  • He started brainstorming ideas for a new Chrono game shortly after Cross's release around 2000, with the idea that it would be a PS2-era game.
  • It really is intended to be titled "Break", not "Brake", as he was imagining a story about time literally breaking somehow (DeepL says, "And the title was something like, 'That's when it all goes to shit.'")
  • Preproduction was in session around 2000/2001 (including the registration of the trademark).
  • Final Fantasy Dimensions II ended up recycling the main scenario of the story!

There's some mention of Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross afterwards, but it seems mostly inconsequential. The raw transcription is below. We're hoping someone will translate this snippet fully; see this link.

From: Main Page