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I've played a lot of SNES RPGs now, like the Breath of Fire games, CT of course, and Lufia. Anyone know anything else i should try?
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I've played a lot of SNES RPGs now, like the Breath of Fire games, CT of course, and Lufia. Anyone know anything else i should try?
All SNES FF's o.o
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Whoops, can't believe I didn't mention them >_< Played all of them, VI being the best.
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Seiken Densetsu 3, Super Mario RPG, Live-A-Live (deeper than what you'd think at first glance), Terranigma...
Bahamut Lagoon is very interesting also, it's a tactical RPG and was called Final Fantasy Tactics during the early development phase..
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I had Bahamut's Lagoon (on Pc...). Looked awesome, however it was in Japanese. Thank god I know about translation patches now! I'm going to go get it...now...out of my...cupboard.
Seiken Densetsu II & III are both amazing, in different ways. I loved both, yet III is probably the better, but that's only because it was more fun. Storylinewise I'd go number 2. Also, don't rule out number 1! Sure it is in black & white, but I've had fun with it.
Terranigma & Illusion of Gaia are musts. Seriously, you'll be so enthralled with it's storyline. It uses the same premise as Earth, so you get to go to places like the Incan Ruins, and the Great Wall of China! Or something, I dunno. But it rocks, and I love them every bit as much as Chrono Trigger.
Breath of Fire is pretty awesome too. Never heard of Live-a-Live, will check it out (in my cupboard, of course).
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the 7th sag is pretty good to ive just started playing it for the first time. also paladins quest was another sleeper.
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The 7th Saga? Honestly, I thought that game was very poor. The story is as developed as Dragon Quest 1's story (i.e. barely any dialogue, you just walk from villages to villages) and the random encounter system can make the player very nervous (enemies are in infinite numbers and run towards you on a radar, so that you get battles even if you don't move at all). This game is sooo hard...
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I think someone already mentioned this;
Secret of Mana
You should also try out Zelda: A Link to the Past
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I've played a lot of SNES RPGs now, like the Breath of Fire games, CT of course, and Lufia. Anyone know anything else i should try?
ff6, tale of symphonia, earth bound, harvest moon, secert of mana
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Isn't there an easy to reference website somewhere that lists all of them?
I'd recommend Secret of Evermore. While it doesn't have the most impressive story, a lot of the gameplay features are pretty interesting, especially the way it handles money and trade. If you don't mind something that's just fun and cheesy, then give it a try.
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Isn't there an easy to reference website somewhere that lists all of them?
I'd recommend Secret of Evermore. While it doesn't have the most impressive story, a lot of the gameplay features are pretty interesting, especially the way it handles money and trade. If you don't mind something that's just fun and cheesy, then give it a try.
rpgamer.com
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FF4 is hands down the best, and greatest game ever made.
Then CT and FF6, of course.
Then Secret of Mana and Secret of Mana 2 (SD3).
Earthbound is also really good. I enjoyed Secret of Evermore as well.
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest was decent, when I played it, so I don't know how much I'd recommend it now.
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I haven't gotten too far into them yet, but Earthbound, Secret of Mana and Secret of Evermore are all good. Oh, and if you can count Zelda as an RPG(Or even if you don't), LOZ:A Link to the Past is a must play. If you can't find any of those on SNES...*cough*EMULATE*cough*. And TO GREY THE ANGEL: Is Tales of Symphonia also on SNES? I thought it was for GCN... It would be cool to play it in 2D sprite format though.
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After reading your reccomendations, I did a bit of research, and decided to try out Terranigma. WOW! It's amazing! Such an awesome story. It's like Secret of Mana in structure, yet way better. Thanks!
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After reading your reccomendations, I did a bit of research, and decided to try out Terranigma. WOW! It's amazing! Such an awesome story. It's like Secret of Mana in structure, yet way better. Thanks!
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Yeah, I wouldn't want that piece of shit either.
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Woo! I get a crown(Though I'm still a gray-skinned midget with black nipples)! So I was reading about Terranigma somewhere and they said it was part of a series of three, the otehr two being Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. Some of you guys recommended Illusion of Gaia, but what of Soul Blazer? Is it any good?
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Woo! I get a crown(Though I'm still a gray-skinned midget with black nipples)! So I was reading about Terranigma somewhere and they said it was part of a series of three, the otehr two being Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. Some of you guys recommended Illusion of Gaia, but what of Soul Blazer? Is it any good?
No. Leave Soul Blazer alone, back in the dark well where it belongs.
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Oh, ok thanks for the heads-up. Do I need to play them in order to underatand it? Like can I play Terranigma first? Or are they even related in any way storywise?
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I never played Illusian of Gaia, but I don't think it'd make a difference. The story between Terranigma and Soul Blazer seemed about as closely related as your typical Final Fantasy game is to each of its sequels.
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Woo! I get a crown(Though I'm still a gray-skinned midget with black nipples)! So I was reading about Terranigma somewhere and they said it was part of a series of three, the otehr two being Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. Some of you guys recommended Illusion of Gaia, but what of Soul Blazer? Is it any good?
No. Leave Soul Blazer alone, back in the dark well where it belongs.
Soul Blazer is ok, but nothing compared to the other two.
Oh, ok thanks for the heads-up. Do I need to play them in order to underatand it? Like can I play Terranigma first? Or are they even related in any way storywise?
Yeah, you will get it (except for a few in-jokes, but some come from Soul Blazer too, and you aren't playing that), but the game will be much more enchanting if you play Illusion first, as the ending of Illusion sort of connects to Terranigma. Amazing ending, it has.
(http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/c/illu-9.gif) (http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/c/illu-75.gif)
Just a couple of screenshots. They don't portray the entire dialogue so get the game quickly!
Oh, and Terrangima has the most awesome music at the end I believe, or somewhere. Probably before you get the second little monster thing.
Terranigma is often considered to be part of a trilogy with Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia due to common elements present in the three games. These include a dog named Turbo showing up, the presence of dark and light Gaia, and certain locations reappearing such as Mu and South Cape. The ending to Illusion of Gaia suggests a modern world similar to the one in Terranigma, although none of the characters make an appearance. Soul Blazer features similar gameplay elements to Terranigma in resurrecting aspects of different worlds, and Illusion of Gaia has a similar combat and message system in some ways, and shares similar themes about balancing light and darkness.
Thanks to VGMuseum for these screeshots
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Oh, ok. I guess I might try Soul Blazer. And I'll play Illusion before Terranigma. Also, Terranigma does have great music.
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The only Super Nintendo/Super Famicom games that I'd suggest that haven't already been would be Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia. Both are great RPGs, and SO even contains a bit of time traveling...but ToP is flawed in it's great abundance of random battles...Both are SF games that have fan-translation patches (actually, pre-patched ROMs are commonplace now for those two)...
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I'd also back up the previous suggestions of Live-a-Live, easily Square's best RPG w/o a NA release...It has SRPG elements in it's simplistic little, but unique battle system, a storyline that takes place between various characters that you choose from (ala SaGa Frontier) and in various time periods...It's good stuff w/a few pop-culture references (go 2001: A Space Odyssey!)...
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Both Breath of Fire and Breath of Fire II are good games...II being the better (but I think the PSX III is far superior to either)...
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Seiken Densetsu III (aka Secret of Mana II) is a lot better than Seiken Densetsu II/Secret of Mana since it actually has a decent amount of character development and ok storylines...But, if you want to play Seiken Densetsu (aka Final Fantasy Adventure for the Gameboy), I'd suggest that you just play Sword of Mana instead, which was a brilliant remake for the GBA.
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Earthbound/Mother II is a great modern day-setting (probably the best in such an era that I've seen) RPG...I'd even suggest playing the old Famicom Mother (aka Earthbound ZERO)...Which is certainly one of the best 8-Bit RPGs of all time...
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Lufia & the Fortress of Doom and Lufia II: The Rise of the Sinistrals are also two great 16-bit RPGs...If you've played and liked one, you should definately play the other because you'll probably like it just as much...
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Bahamut Lagoon is a great 16-bit SRPG from Square...But, it fails where many SRPGs (and Chrono Cross...>_>) fail in that w/ having so many characters, it becomes difficult to have decent amounts of character development for each...but it does an ok job of this by allowing crew interactions between battles and such...
Of course, Chrono Trigger, FFIV, and FFVI are all great games as well...
P.S. I'd like to thank Google for making this post as IMG-y as possible. >_>
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I hear a lot of FFVI and FF IV, and I've played both and both are great, but what of V? I've heard it's the worst of the three, and also that it's the single worst FF. Anybody wanna back this up?
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By the way. if you are thinking about getting FF3, STOP! Instead, buy a DS (a lifetime investment!) and wait for FF3 Remake on DS.
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Or you can always get the GBA versions of 5 & 6, but...2D!
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FF5 isn't bad, it's just hard, and the story isn't up to par. FF8 and FF10-2 are the worst of what I've played.
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FF5 isn't bad, it's just hard, and the story isn't up to par. FF8 and FF10-2 are the worst of what I've played.
Are you kidding? FF8 is secondly only to FF7! But I agree about FFX-2 for being the worst.
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I agree with Sentenal, FF8 was horrible. Luckly, since the games aren't true sequels, I would recomend you skip that one.
Anyways, Live-A-Live is an awesome SNES RPG. Tough, but very good.
And I liked Soul Blazer! :evil:
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FFIII wasn't a SNES/SF game, BZ...But it just so happens to be one of the greatest 8-Bit RPGs of all time (and not just because the selection is so limited)...But, yes, I'd also try the DS version...
About FFV...It doesn't "suck" per say...It certainly isn't as good as IV or VI...And, did Sentenal just say that it's hard??? That's whack. It's far easier than, say, FFIV...Especially around the end when you get the Mime class...and when you've totally uber-ized your Bare class...It's not hard as long as you have a basic understanding of the FF Job Class system...It's real flaw is that the character development and the storyline aren't as up to par as it's 16-Bit brethren...
And shall we not make this a discussion of the PSX and PS2 FFs, hmm?? Since that isn't what this thread is about...>_>
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Blah blah blah. FF3 is awesome, nonetheless.
FF8 is the sort of game that is either proclaimed one of the BEST or one of the WORST. FF9 is usually said to be the worst. I quite like it, though the parallels to FF7 are totally obvious.
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FF9 has way too many references to other games though. It felt like it was one big cameo spot.
Earthbound was a fun game, but it was too easy to make a lot of money in it.
Try some Dragon Quest games on the SNES, they remade a bunch of them.
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About FF3, I have the NES rom. I thought it was good, until I lost my file... :(
And as for FF9, its my fav FF! I know VII is the best in terms of plot and characters, but FF9 is just so damn cool. :)
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FF9 has a great story & an excellent musicial score. But sadly, most people don't like the overall looks of the game. I played it myself & I don't see any problems with it.
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Same here! It was underestimated when FF became all sci-fi and stuff, e.g. FF7 and 8. FF9 is basically a retro FF in 3D. Which rocks :D
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FF9 is big change for the FF series. Most FF has serious storyline & as for the FF9, it combines a fairytale like elements with life & death situations.
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I liked the plot, not too serious, but still had the crazed, flamboyant, "I'm an invincible god!" villain. Rumor has it Kuja was a girl in the japanese version...
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Kuja is a girl? Well he's too girly for his look.
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Just a rumor, though... Anyways, what was your fav part of FF9?
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Ah, my favourite part! Possibly the Bahamut FMV's, or the time Kuju defeats you in the rain
Necron is pretty awesome too.
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Um... That was Beatrix who defeats you. Kuja just appears afterwards and says some lines, then you see an FMV of him bein' all smug and flying away on his Silver Dragon.
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Inside Memoria. It represents their collective memories of most playable characters. I also like the Bahamut vs. Alexander scene.
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If you're looking for a good, quick game, with easy leveling up, humor, and an intriguing battling system, go get Bahamut Lagoon with the translation patch. Only downside is that it is extremely linear.
FFI is great in my opinion. I didn't care for FF2/4. FF3/6 we're both excellent (since FF6 was the first Final Fantasy game I ever played). FF5 is the first game to really add interesting twists to the game with the class system and whatnot. FF7 is hands down the best. FF8 is a nice game, because it's easy to stock up on magic, which makes the rest of the game easier. FF9 is my second favorite PSX one, partially because the game is beautiful and I really liked the story line of it. FFX and XI and X-2 don't have much say in my book, as I've only played FFX. After that, my interest in FF sort of dropped.
Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma are both wonderful RPGs. Breath of Fire I and II are both some of my favorites. The Dragon Quest series has some good games in it. Any Zelda.
Oh, and I'm hurt that this hasn't been mentioned before. But Super Mario RPG? Oh, and if you have a 64, get a copy of Paper Mario. It's similar, but not quite as fun.
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My fav FF9 bit... has to be where you go to Dali and find the factory in what seems like a peaceful little village. Then you get on the cargo ship and Vivi burns the Black Waltz III's ship! I love it!
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If you're looking for a good, quick game, with easy leveling up, humor, and an intriguing battling system, go get Bahamut Lagoon with the translation patch. Only downside is that it is extremely linear.
FFI is great in my opinion. I didn't care for FF2/4. FF3/6 we're both excellent (since FF6 was the first Final Fantasy game I ever played). FF5 is the first game to really add interesting twists to the game with the class system and whatnot. FF7 is hands down the best. FF8 is a nice game, because it's easy to stock up on magic, which makes the rest of the game easier. FF9 is my second favorite PSX one, partially because the game is beautiful and I really liked the story line of it. FFX and XI and X-2 don't have much say in my book, as I've only played FFX. After that, my interest in FF sort of dropped.
Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma are both wonderful RPGs. Breath of Fire I and II are both some of my favorites. The Dragon Quest series has some good games in it. Any Zelda.
Oh, and I'm hurt that this hasn't been mentioned before. But Super Mario RPG? Oh, and if you have a 64, get a copy of Paper Mario. It's similar, but not quite as fun.
Did they ever translated Bahamut Lagoon to english? The first time I played it was a japanese version.
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Not officially, but Dejap translated it for us and supplied an IPS patch.
http://www.dejap.com/bl.php (http://www.dejap.com/bl.php)
They also have several other games that they've translated into English.
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Oh, and I'm hurt that this hasn't been mentioned before. But Super Mario RPG? Oh, and if you have a 64, get a copy of Paper Mario. It's similar, but not quite as fun.
I did mention Super Mario RPG but yeah, shame that it wasn't mentioned more. Paper Mario is nothing compared to it though, IMO.
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Ah Super Mario RPG, I wish they had done some more of those. (Paper Mario doesn't count)
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Now that they're friends with Nintendo again, Square Enix should make a Super Mario RPG 2...
(after having made a Chrono Break of course!)
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Games I'd like to see some sequels to:
Chrono Cross
Bahamut Lagoon
Super Mario RPG
A TRUE Final Fantasy sequel, building off either 6 or 7.
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A sequel to Live A Live would be awesome... The battle system was a bit underdeveloped, but I think it really has potential... it's like FFT but with less units. And the story in the 8th and 9th chapters is also a bit underrated. The 7 first chapters are like a big introduction compared to it.
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It felt more like 8 and 9 was the story and 1-7 really diddn't need to be there, besides to allow you to level up. Which reminds me, the robot never did level up, did he?
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By the way Pyt, you can get other RPG's of that generation on the Mega Drive. Highlights include Shining Force (sorta like Tactics & Fire Emblem), and the oh-so-good Phantasy Star series, one of the first RPG's, and the first in the US. Storywise it is comparable to Final Fantasy, and it plays a lot like it too, but the battle system moreso like Earthbound.
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Highlights include Shining Force (sorta like Tactics & Fire Emblem)
Except when your characters die, it's not for good. :D
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if it hasnt been said already Terranigma
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if it hasnt been said already Terranigma
Ah Terranigma, one of the few beautiful RPGs around. Nothing could match it's amazing storyline and captivating zeal.
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I agree w/those Genesis/Mega Drive recommendations...
The Shining Force games are great for those who are interested, but perhaps intimidated by SRPGs like FFTactics or even the Fire Emblem games...But it's a lot like the Fire Emblem series gameplay-wise...There were also a few Shining Force games for the Game Gear which were equally good.
The Phantasy Star series is like a combination of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest/Warrior...It's got story, but you're gonna need to be okay w/leveling your ass up. PS2-4 are Genesis/Mega Drive games and they're all pretty good, but I think most people agree that 4 is the best of the series...But, if you want to follow the story from the start (which I don't think is completely necessary), then you need to pull that hardcore RPGamer from deep down inside yourself and play Phantasy Star for Sega's Master System...Stay away from Phantasy Star Online unless you like MMOs or something...It looks pretty...I'll give it that...
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PSO is so gawddamn difficult! :?
And Fire Emblem rocks. I've only played the two GBA ones, and a translated SNES one, but they're mighty fine games.
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The SNES Star Ocean is good, from what I've played so far. If you can find a Translated ROM, go for it. If you can't, go to Nerologic.com.
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Didn't Tomato (now of DeJap) do the Star Ocean translation patch? Well, either way...Here's the DeJap location of the patch (http://www.dejap.com/so.php)
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Games I'd like to see some sequels to:
Chrono Cross
Bahamut Lagoon
Super Mario RPG
A TRUE Final Fantasy sequel, building off either 6 or 7.
Legend of Dragoon 2 would've been nice, but it seems SONY forgot about it awhile back even though it was suppose to come out. The name still stands as is, but abandoned...
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Legend of Dragoon was, for reasons I do not understand, one of those love it or hate it games. I thought it was pretty good myself w/a very decent storyline, good characters, and a unique, albeit simplistic battle system...
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I agree w/those Genesis/Mega Drive recommendations...
The Shining Force games are great for those who are interested, but perhaps intimidated by SRPGs like FFTactics or even the Fire Emblem games...But it's a lot like the Fire Emblem series gameplay-wise...There were also a few Shining Force games for the Game Gear which were equally good.
The Phantasy Star series is like a combination of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest/Warrior...It's got story, but you're gonna need to be okay w/leveling your ass up. PS2-4 are Genesis/Mega Drive games and they're all pretty good, but I think most people agree that 4 is the best of the series...But, if you want to follow the story from the start (which I don't think is completely necessary), then you need to pull that hardcore RPGamer from deep down inside yourself and play Phantasy Star for Sega's Master System...Stay away from Phantasy Star Online unless you like MMOs or something...It looks pretty...I'll give it that...
shining force is a decent stratagy rpg but you really want to play no1 then the sega saturn ones to get the best story out of the early games the others were good just less epic.
1 was part of a 4 or 5 part series of games.
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*Searches for translated Star Ocean*
Does anyone here have Star Ocean Till The End of Time on PS2? Maybe I'll just make a separate topic on that...
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*Searches for translated Star Ocean*
Does anyone here have Star Ocean Till The End of Time on PS2? Maybe I'll just make a separate topic on that...
yep i got it
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Hm, I forgot I said that.
*goes to make SOIII topic*
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shining force is a decent stratagy rpg but you really want to play no1 then the sega saturn ones to get the best story out of the early games the others were good just less epic.
1 was part of a 4 or 5 part series of games.
Oh? From the first few that I played I thought they were more or less the same story-wise (not that the stories were the same, but the same in terms of content)...I never really expect much story-wise from oldschool SRPGs though (and certainly not much from the character development end of things)...It's mostly about the gameplay back then...
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Nowadays it's about the graphics. *coughFFXIIIcough*
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:shock: FFXIII is going to be an SRPG???
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I think he's talking about games in general. At least, it would be true if he were.
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shining force is a decent stratagy rpg but you really want to play no1 then the sega saturn ones to get the best story out of the early games the others were good just less epic.
1 was part of a 4 or 5 part series of games.
Oh? From the first few that I played I thought they were more or less the same story-wise (not that the stories were the same, but the same in terms of content)...I never really expect much story-wise from oldschool SRPGs though (and certainly not much from the character development end of things)...It's mostly about the gameplay back then...
yeah SF 1 is really part of a big series that inclueded the saturn ones most of the others have been spin-offs the SF1 (real SF story) or just unrelated games of the same style.
SF1 simply lacks character development and story due to the era the asturn ones expand alot on it. otherwise know as SF3.
SF2 was just a spin-off SF1 its story got overwritten by SF3 that was in development since SF1
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Nah, I do think FFXIII will be good, but I've disappointed in FF games lately. The old style seems to be ditched for a sci-fi style.
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Nah, I do think FFXIII will be good, but I've disappointed in FF games lately. The old style seems to be ditched for a sci-fi style.
trying new tings and going in new diections is always nice but yeah i miss the FF9 type setting
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Do you have any dejap patch in PS2? I want to know the story of Namco X Capcom.
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Do you have any dejap patch in PS2? I want to know the story of Namco X Capcom.
theres probably translated scrpits etc on the net
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I'm fairly sure that Namco X Capcom doesn't have a fan translation yet (I don't even know if anyone's attempted it yet)...But you might want to check out ROMHacking.net (http://www.romhacking.net) (formerly the Whirlpool)...They've normally got the scoop for translation patches and news...