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==Items==
 
==Items==
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Be sure to read [[Radical Dreamers Translation Differences]] or check the notes to each item below.
  
 
===Acacian Ring===
 
===Acacian Ring===
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''How it is used'': Kid carries a nail file with her that is lost when Serge drops it down the [[Mouth of Truth]].
 
''How it is used'': Kid carries a nail file with her that is lost when Serge drops it down the [[Mouth of Truth]].
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In the original Japanese, the file wasn't a nail file, but an industrial hand tool:
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<pre>「命の次に大事な、7つ道具のヤスリ
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がーーーーッ!!!」</pre>
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"As one of the 7 tools, only life is more important than that file!!!"
  
 
===Fishing Line===
 
===Fishing Line===
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''How it is used'': Kid and Serge find the Hand-Shaped Plate on the remains of a member of the [[Magical Gobbler Team]], and insert it into the [[Mouth of Truth]] to drain the atrium of water and [[Monsters (Radical Dreamers)|Piranhas]].
 
''How it is used'': Kid and Serge find the Hand-Shaped Plate on the remains of a member of the [[Magical Gobbler Team]], and insert it into the [[Mouth of Truth]] to drain the atrium of water and [[Monsters (Radical Dreamers)|Piranhas]].
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In the original Japanese, the hand-shaped plate is revealed to have contained the ultimate truth of the universe, which the Mouth of Truth refuses to speak.
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<pre>……これこそ、まさに大宇宙の究極の真理……</pre>
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...This is it, the ultimate truth of the universe...
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<pre>「この世の真理に、さすがの真実の口も舌を巻いたみたいだな」</pre>
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"Seeing the truth of the world, even the Mouth of Truth will coil its tongue up."
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<pre>ギルが、冗談とも本気ともつかないことを、まじめな口調で言う。</pre>
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Even when making a joke like this, Magil still uses his usual serious tone.
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<pre>「この世の真理だって? あの象形文字
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が? しくじった! うつしとっときゃ
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高く売れたかもしれないのに!」</pre>
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"The truth of the world? Those pictograph characters? Damn it! We could sell it for a high price!"
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<pre>悔しそうにキッドがパチッと、指を鳴らす。</pre>
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Kid says, snapping her fingers, regrettably.
  
 
===Leather Scroll===
 
===Leather Scroll===
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''How it is used'': Kid carries lipstick with her, used by Serge to decorate the [[Mouth of Truth]] in a vain attempt to get a reaction from it.
 
''How it is used'': Kid carries lipstick with her, used by Serge to decorate the [[Mouth of Truth]] in a vain attempt to get a reaction from it.
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The lipstick had a different use in the original Japanese:
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<pre>「オレの口紅~っ!!」</pre>
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"My lipstick!!"
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<pre>真っ赤に艶めく髭老人の唇に、キッド
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の怒りが大爆発する。</pre>
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Seeing the red lips of the beard-oldman, Kid explodes in anger.
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<pre>「いいじゃないか、キッド、お化粧なんて
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しないんだから」</pre>
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"What's wrong, Kid, isn't that how cosmetics are used for?"
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<pre>「その紅はなぁ、迷いやすい道とかで、
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マーキングに使うんだよ!」</pre>
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"This lipstick is used for drawing marks just in case we lose our way."
  
 
===Martian Forest League Concealed Lesser Armament Bunny===
 
===Martian Forest League Concealed Lesser Armament Bunny===
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''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Serge]]
 
''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Serge]]
  
''How it is used'': Kid carries a mirror for grooming and upkeep with her; it is placed within the [[Mouth of Truth]], but causes no reaction. Kid afterwards fixes her hair with it.
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''How it is used'': The music box plays the piece that was composed by Serge in his early days as a musician. Kid cried when she heard the music; it was Lucca's favorite.
  
 
===Silver Mirror===
 
===Silver Mirror===
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''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Serge]]
 
''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Serge]]
  
''How it is used'': Kid carries special, tasty raisins with her as emergency rations; they are eaten by the [[Mouth of Truth]].
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''How it is used'': Kid carries a mirror for grooming and upkeep with her; it is placed within the [[Mouth of Truth]], but causes no reaction. Kid afterwards fixes her hair with it.
  
 
===Special Raisins===
 
===Special Raisins===
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''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Magil]], [[Serge]]
 
''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Magil]], [[Serge]]
  
''How it is used'': The vault key unlocks the vault in [[Viper Manor]], which contains a fake [[Frozen Flame]] in various scenarios, as well as heaps of gold. It is found within the [[Purple Book, Back]] in the study.
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''How it is used'': The vault key unlocks the vault in [[Viper Manor]], which contains a fake [[Frozen Flame]] in various scenarios, as well as heaps of gold. It is found within the Purple Book, Back in the study.
  
 
===White Jewel===
 
===White Jewel===
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===Red Book, Back===
 
===Red Book, Back===
  
''Excerpt'': The Art of War
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''Excerpt'': The Art of War<Br />
 
''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Serge]]
 
''Used by'': [[Kid]], [[Serge]]
  
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nightmares, death...
 
nightmares, death...
 
</pre>
 
</pre>
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===Translation Differences===
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===The Books===
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The books originally had somewhat original content.
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Blue Book, Front<Br />
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It's about a young man says farewell to a baby elephant. No idea if it was taken from an ever published book.
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Red Book, Front<Br />
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Sort of an adult reading. That's why Serge got slapped (HP-10). Again, I don't know if it was from a real book.
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Note: If you choose this book, Serge will lost 10HP, not love points. But this event won't kill Serge, nor produce any sound effects (odd).
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Purple Book, Front<Br />
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About Neo-Epoch(Neo-Silverbird) just like what Demiforce translated, although, the lines below were an invention:
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"What is this? It reminds me of..."<Br />
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"Of what, Kid?"
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Green Book, Front<Br />
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About a goblin who guards a house for its master but falls asleep.
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Blue Book, Back<Br />
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Same as Demiforce's translation. There's no sound test in original game though.<Br />
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Note: Serge will lose 18 HP and get killed if his health is low enough.
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Red Book, Back<Br />
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Jakobson's thesis about Hume's theory; sounds like research about space and time. (Not the Jakobson and Hume in real world, though.)
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Purple Book, Back<Br />
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The key, of course. Although the scene is not as detailed as Demiforce's translation.
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Green Book, Back<Br />
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A disgusting love story. Still, its origin is unknown.
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White Book, Back<Br />
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A detective story on a small island in the storming sea.
  
 
''From'': [[Accessories]]
 
''From'': [[Accessories]]

Latest revision as of 14:10, 30 September 2009

Items

Be sure to read Radical Dreamers Translation Differences or check the notes to each item below.

Acacian Ring

Used by: Kid, Magil, Serge

The Acacian Ring is a memento that once belonged to the Radius figure in the catacombs. Upon viewing it, he snaps back to some semblance of sanity and reveals the secret of the ballroom. To obtain it, one must stop the death trap room with the Einlanzer.

Black Tea

Used by: Esmeld, Kid, Magil, Serge

How it is used: Esmeld prepares the tea, his favorite, and administers it to the party; Magil remarks that the stuff - flavored Himalayan Chimpanzee - is one of the best he has ever tasted.

Centipede

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Serge drops the rubber centipede down the Mouth of Truth; the toy is described by Kid as a tool to scare people with. It may have other personal uses.

Chrono Trigger

Main Article: Chrono Trigger

Used by: Kid

How it is used: Lynx reveals in Radical Dreamers that the Chrono Trigger, if combined with the Frozen Flame, can grant unimaginable powers over time and space, to the point that history can be shaped according to the will of the user of these two powers. Kid carries the Chrono Trigger on her throughout the journey, and if she falls in battle with Lynx, she uses it presumably to reset time to an earlier, safer moment. The fact that she has it with her supports the theory well that Radical Dreamers is a dimension in which Crono was not saved by the C. Trigger.

File

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid carries a nail file with her that is lost when Serge drops it down the Mouth of Truth.

In the original Japanese, the file wasn't a nail file, but an industrial hand tool:

「命の次に大事な、7つ道具のヤスリ
がーーーーッ!!!」

"As one of the 7 tools, only life is more important than that file!!!"

Fishing Line

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid carries a silk line made from a Royal Silkworm with her; it is nearly lost as Serge tries to recover a piece of paper with it by lowering it down the Mouth of Truth.

Frozen Flame

Main Article: Frozen Flame

The Frozen Flame is a shard of Lavos that splintered off in 65000000 B.C. Imbued with special powers, and glowing bright scarlet, it passed through the epochs until arriving in the hands of the people of Zeal. According to Magil: "Once, there lived a people who sought to harness its power, hoping to tap into their yet unknown potential. And so, it became a treasure of great importance and dreams." The Flame eventaully effected the fall of Zeal, and was lost until presumably the Kingdom of Guardia located and stored it. There it was kept, as legend surrounding it grew; it was said to have special powers, including the ability to grant eternal life to its bearer. Whether it could accomplish this was unknown, as it was kept secret until the Fall of Guardia, in which it was stolen and taken to Viper Manor presumably by General Viper. Legend of it intensified, until the aristocrat Lynx heard of it and traveled to the manor to befriend General Viper and get closer to the Flame. He orchestrated a coup, slaughtering the Acacia Dragoons in the process and securing the artifact. About this time or prior, he learned that the Frozen Flame, when used in conjunction with a Time Egg, can allow the user to control history at will. Prior to this, Lucca asked Kid to acquire the Flame and set it on an old friend's grave (most likely Crono's). He sought out Lucca's old Chrono Trigger (which had not been used to save Crono in this dimension, presumably), and ended up killing her though failing to get the egg. He then waited for Kid to return to the manor and seek revenge upon him for Lucca; he confronted them on the night of Le Trésor Interdit, but was thwarted by the Porre army, who subsequently took the flame.

It is possible that the Frozen Flame was used in the Mammon Machine at Zeal; this explains its close proximity to Schala after the Ocean Palace Incident, and also how it caused Zeal to fall. However, no direct evidence exists to confirm this.

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Goblin's Key

Used by: Esmeld, Kid, Magil, Serge

How it is used: The Catacombs of Viper Manor can either be opened with a key that Esmeld gives the party, or in other scenarios, a key found on the corpse of a Goblin.

Goblin Potion

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: The Goblins of Viper Manor carry healing potions with them that are sometimes left behind after they are defeated for the party's use; a vial also exists in Lynx's quarters.

Gunpowder Ball

Used by: Kid

How it is used: Kid carries gunpowder with her and detonates some in the Mouth of Truth; while it causes some structural damage, it does not completely destroy the Mouth.

Hand-Shaped Plate

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid and Serge find the Hand-Shaped Plate on the remains of a member of the Magical Gobbler Team, and insert it into the Mouth of Truth to drain the atrium of water and Piranhas.

In the original Japanese, the hand-shaped plate is revealed to have contained the ultimate truth of the universe, which the Mouth of Truth refuses to speak.

……これこそ、まさに大宇宙の究極の真理……

...This is it, the ultimate truth of the universe...

「この世の真理に、さすがの真実の口も舌を巻いたみたいだな」

"Seeing the truth of the world, even the Mouth of Truth will coil its tongue up."

ギルが、冗談とも本気ともつかないことを、まじめな口調で言う。

Even when making a joke like this, Magil still uses his usual serious tone.

「この世の真理だって? あの象形文字
が? しくじった! うつしとっときゃ
高く売れたかもしれないのに!」

"The truth of the world? Those pictograph characters? Damn it! We could sell it for a high price!"

悔しそうにキッドがパチッと、指を鳴らす。

Kid says, snapping her fingers, regrettably.

Leather Scroll

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid carries with her a scroll used as an Imperial Code Chart Primer, the empire being Porre, most likely. It is spared being lost down the Mouth of Truth.

Lipstick

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid carries lipstick with her, used by Serge to decorate the Mouth of Truth in a vain attempt to get a reaction from it.

The lipstick had a different use in the original Japanese:

「オレの口紅~っ!!」

"My lipstick!!"

真っ赤に艶めく髭老人の唇に、キッド
の怒りが大爆発する。

Seeing the red lips of the beard-oldman, Kid explodes in anger.

「いいじゃないか、キッド、お化粧なんて
しないんだから」

"What's wrong, Kid, isn't that how cosmetics are used for?"

「その紅はなぁ、迷いやすい道とかで、
マーキングに使うんだよ!」

"This lipstick is used for drawing marks just in case we lose our way."

Martian Forest League Concealed Lesser Armament Bunny

Used by: Kid

The Bunny is a powerful incendiary device given to Martian Universal Detectives (such as Mick Van Jovi). Kid came into possession of one through a game, and eventually used the bunny to explode Lynx's spaceship.

Music Box

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: The music box plays the piece that was composed by Serge in his early days as a musician. Kid cried when she heard the music; it was Lucca's favorite.

Silver Mirror

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid carries a mirror for grooming and upkeep with her; it is placed within the Mouth of Truth, but causes no reaction. Kid afterwards fixes her hair with it.

Special Raisins

Used by: Kid, Serge

How it is used: Kid carries special, tasty raisins with her as emergency rations; they are eaten by the Mouth of Truth.

Vault Key

Used by: Kid, Magil, Serge

How it is used: The vault key unlocks the vault in Viper Manor, which contains a fake Frozen Flame in various scenarios, as well as heaps of gold. It is found within the Purple Book, Back in the study.

White Jewel

Used by: Magil, Serge

How it is used: The White Jewel, when attached to a special dagger, can extract the soul from a person's body, and subsequently emplace it in another host body. It turns milky white when filled with a soul; it is possibly used to carry Kid's soul after she is removed from the Mandora Monster.

Books

Book of the Dead

Used by: Kid, Lilith, Magil, Serge

How it is used: The Book of the Dead is an ancient tome that summons forth Lilith, an assassin, to murder whoever's name is written within it. Kid accidentally kills Lynx when she writes a note of jest in the book. It's also called the Soul Contract.

Blue Book, Front

Excerpt: Dune
Used by: Kid, Serge

In the week before their departure to Arrakis, when all the final scurrying
about had reached a nearly unbearable frenzy, an old crone came to visit the
mother of the boy, Paul.
It was a warm night at Castle Caladan, and the ancient pile of stone that had
served the Atreides family as home for twenty-six generations bore that
cooled-sweat feeling it acquired before a change in the weather...

Red Book, Front

Excerpt: Silence of the Lambs
Used by: Kid, Serge

A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and
a nice Chianti. Fly back to school, little Starling.

Purple Book, Front

Used by: Kid, Serge

The Neo-Epoch was damaged and expelled into space without any phase changes.
Warning! Warning! Engine severely damaged! Output has been reduced to 30%! Only
six Antiparticle shells remain!
Shield range 16 sectors! L-spin reaction at the starboard bow! The enemy fleet
is moving towards us!
Gyado, wake up! Hiyu Corps, use your final power...

Green Book, Front

Excerpt: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Used by: Kid, Serge

Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western
spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun.
Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly
insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended lifeforms are so
amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat
idea...

Blue Book, Back

Exceprt: This is a hint about the Radical Dreamers sound test.
Used by: Kid, Serge

...It was only then that I realized that in this incredible game of life, the
bonus is contained within love and adventure. Cordially enthralling myself into
the temptations of the flesh despite a momentary rush of suspiciousness,
finally I moved my fingers downward... ever more downward. Until, gulping down
my many feelings of apprehension and vulnerability, into this pleasureful
ocean, I...

Red Book, Back

Excerpt: The Art of War
Used by: Kid, Serge

...Sun Tzu said: The art of war is of vital importance to the State. It is a
matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a
subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected. The art of war, then,
is governed by five constant factors, to be taken into account in one's
deliberations, when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.
These are...

Purple Book, Back

Used by: Kid, Serge

The Purple Book, Back yields the Vault Key.

Green Book, Back

Excerpt: American Beauty
Used by: Kid, Serge

I refuse to be a victim. When this becomes your mantra, constantly running
through your head, you will shift towards me-centered living. Only by taking
full responsibility for your problems, and their solutions, will you break free
from the constant cycle of victimhood. Remember, you are only a victim if you
choose to be.

White Book, Back

Excerpt: The Gunslinger
Used by: Kid, Serge

The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.
The desert was the apotheosis of all deserts, huge, standing to the sky for
what might have been parsecs in all directions. White; blinding; waterless;
without feature save for the faint, cloudy haze of the mountains which sketched
themselves on the horizon and the devil-grass which brought sweet dreams,
nightmares, death...

Translation Differences

The Books

The books originally had somewhat original content.

Blue Book, Front
It's about a young man says farewell to a baby elephant. No idea if it was taken from an ever published book.

Red Book, Front
Sort of an adult reading. That's why Serge got slapped (HP-10). Again, I don't know if it was from a real book.

Note: If you choose this book, Serge will lost 10HP, not love points. But this event won't kill Serge, nor produce any sound effects (odd).

Purple Book, Front
About Neo-Epoch(Neo-Silverbird) just like what Demiforce translated, although, the lines below were an invention:

"What is this? It reminds me of..."
"Of what, Kid?"

Green Book, Front
About a goblin who guards a house for its master but falls asleep.

Blue Book, Back
Same as Demiforce's translation. There's no sound test in original game though.
Note: Serge will lose 18 HP and get killed if his health is low enough.

Red Book, Back
Jakobson's thesis about Hume's theory; sounds like research about space and time. (Not the Jakobson and Hume in real world, though.)

Purple Book, Back
The key, of course. Although the scene is not as detailed as Demiforce's translation.

Green Book, Back
A disgusting love story. Still, its origin is unknown.

White Book, Back
A detective story on a small island in the storming sea.

From: Accessories