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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 06:37:39 pm »
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I assume that not including Magus' single techs in that list was a mistake rather than a subtle dig at Magus fans.

Haha yeah it was definitely an oversight on my part :p I had a very organized way of testing out each tech in a precise order, and since Magus isn't involved in any double techs, I guess I naturally forgot about him. FYI, outside of gameplay he's my favorite character in the series.

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Now for the low level team. Basically hacked all my units to have the same starting level as Ayla, which is lv 18. I could’ve made everyone as low-level as possible (like in an LLG), but this skews the damage output towards units who will naturally have higher levels. You can’t expect a level 1 Crono to compete with a level 15 Robo, for instance.

LEVEL 18 TEAM

Single techs

Crono

Cyclone: 400
Slash: 100
Lightning: 130
Spincut: 650
Lightning 2: 150
Confuse: 1200
Luminaire: 500

Lucca

Flame toss: 100
Fire: 200
Napalm: 200
Fire 2: 300
Mega bomb: 600
Flare: 800

Marle

Ice: 200
Ice 2: 200

Robo

Rocket punch: 400
Laser spin: 100
Robo tackle: 300
Uzzi punch: 800
Area bomb: 300
Shock: 450

Frog

Slurp cut: 400
Water: 100
Leap slash: 700
Water 2: 200
Frog squash: 1200

Ayla

Rollo kick: 200
Cat attack: 300
Rock throw: 500
Tail spin: 500
Dino tail: 1500
Triple kick: 600

Magus

Lightning 2: 700
Ice 2: 700
Fire 2: 700
Dark bomb: 900
Dark mist: 900
Dark matter: 1400

Double techs

Crono/Lucca

Fire whirl: 500
Fire sword: 1100
Fire sword 2: 1400

Crono/Marle

Ice sword: 1000
Ice sword 2: 1400

Crono/Robo

Rocket roll: 200
Max cyclone: 1300
Super volt: 800

Crono/Frog

X strike: 1000
Swordstream: 1000
Spire: 1000

Crono/Ayla

Drill kick: 400
Volt bite: 700
Falcon hit: 1300

Lucca/Marle

Antipod: 400
Antipod 2: 800
Antipod 3: 1300

Lucca/Robo

Fire punch: 600
Fire tackle: 900
Doublevbomb: 1400

Lucca/Frog

Red pin: 1100
Line bomb: 600
Frog flare: 2600

Lucca/Ayla

Flame kick: 600
Fire whirl: 1200
Blaze kick: 1100

Marle/Robo

Ice tackle: 800

Marle/Frog

Ice water: 300
Glacier: 600

Marle/Ayla

Ice toss: 700
Cube toss: 900

Robo/Frog

Blade toss: 800
Bubble snap: 600

Robo/Ayla

Spin kick: 500
Beast toss: 1600

Triple techs

Crono/Lucca/Marle
Delta force: 800

Crono/Lucca/Robo
Fire zone: 1600

Crono/Lucca/Frog
Delta storm: 800

Crono/Lucca/Ayla
Gatling kick: 1300

Crono/Marle/Frog
Arc impulse: 1900

Crono/Marle/Ayla
Final kick: 1300

Crono/Robo/Frog
Triple raid: 1400

Crono/Robo/Ayla
Twister: 1500

Crono/Frog/Ayla
3D attack: 1800

No Crono + requires a special rock

Lucca/Marle/Ayla
Poyozo dance: 500

Lucca/Marle/Magus
Dark eternal: 2400

Lucca/Robo/Magus
Omega flare: 2300

Marle/Robo/Frog
Grand dream: 2900 (low hp required)

Robo/Frog/Ayla
Spin strike: 2700

As expected, magic attacks get way more shafted than physical ones at low levels since their formulas are highly level dependent ( (lv+mag)*multiplier ). Beast toss definitely stands out compared to the other double techs. Last thing I noticed, frog squash, frog flare and grand dream are all doing amazing damage, though I’m not sure if these figures are to be trusted since all my units still have 999 hp in these tests.

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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2011, 08:44:53 am »
I’m only saying it’s a bad ultimate tech because it’s highly situational. He has to risk probable death just to match Crono/Lucca/Magus’ ultimate tech damage. Every time you use a megaelixir or heal multiple party members, he loses his frog squash damage until an enemy hopefully damages him sufficiently. Given these limitations I’d say even shock is better, despite probably doing less damage.
indeed, Manly Man. if you removed Provoke and added Starburst (don't you mean Hexagon Mist?), Marle would be great. as it is, she's great as a complimentary character. ice-2 as the strongest offensive spell is definitely a drawback. eta: I always thought that there was a conspicuous lack of an ultimate water spell.

I just had another idea - what if instead of Frog Squash, Frog could cast Hexagon Mist/Starburst? That would've been much better, and would've made frog more useful. That way Marle could keep her all her techs such as Provoke, which is in fact used in some double/triple techs.

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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 01:13:29 pm »
Hey, whoever edits the encyclopedia, this thread needs an entry, definitely.

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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2011, 06:19:45 pm »
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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2012, 12:16:41 am »
Contacting to see if there's any interest in compiling it; otherwise, I can try to organize it into an article. Awesome work.

Edit: Damn, Vykan12's e-mail address is broken...
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 12:18:28 am by ZeaLitY »

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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2012, 12:01:27 pm »
 :picardno Ok looks like i'll have to plug in the old SNES and show you guys the real stats. I have a lvl99 game were all character have 99 str,mgc and spd. They also have all the best equipement but that doesn't matter.



*Yes Shock does more damage than Dark Matter but Robo needs to have 99 magic.

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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2012, 08:15:31 pm »
Is there a similar topic for Chrono Cross?

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Re: Character Ratings and Thorough Tech Analysis
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2012, 09:43:53 pm »
Isn't Luminaire 4000-4100 at level 99 ?