Home World Kid Theory

[Legend of the Past]

According to THAT theory, Home World is the abnormality, Another World being the real future of the Timeline. Therefore, if you travel through time before the split, you arrive in Another World. So only Another's Lavos got whacked. Which makes no sense, since in the end of the game, TD can be fought ONLY IN HOME WORLD! THIS MEANS SOMETHING, PEOPLE!

[Zaperking]

You've got it wrong, Serge simply need's to go back to the world where he's alive, and activate the Time Egg at Opassa Beach to enter the DBT.

[Legend of the Past]

You've got it wrong, Serge simply need's to go back to the world where he's alive, and activate the Time Egg at Opassa Beach to enter the DBT.

Excuse me? Why, then, does the Devourer depend on Serge's existence so much?

[AuraTwilight]

Excuse me? Why, then, does the Devourer depend on Serge's existence so much?

It doesn't. It all depends on how Serge can get to the Time Devourer. Being in his home world is, apparently, one of the conditions for using the Time Egg.

Dark Gizmo, thanks for clearing it up for me. That was really helpful.

[Legend of the Past]

Excuse me? Why, then, does the Devourer depend on Serge's existence so much?

 Being in his home world is, apparently, one of the conditions for using the Time Egg.

And where is that stated?

Think about it. Maybe Serge is the next target to be absorbed? And if you don't believe me, I'll give you some good parts pointing to that...

[AuraTwilight]

It's not stated anywhere. Hence 'apparently.' and why would Serge be absorbed? By what? It was you yourself in another thread that said the Time Devourer and it's remains were denied existence by the power of Chrono Cross. The Time Devourer was obviously a fluke.

[Legend of the Past]

It's not stated anywhere.

Oh, yes?

Wilt thou change this world...Or wilt thou change thyself?
   
Wilt thou live on with thy mother planet...

Or wilt thou turn thy back on the
planet and tread another path?

That's one.

My second piece of evidence is this:



What is the Flame doing to Serge here? It's not awakening to his presence like it did in Terra Tower. Maybe Lavos is simpley drawing Serge to him?

And my third is this part:

Usually, you'll find the
   sea to be vast, deep...
   full of strength and energy,
   yet kind and gentle.

Schala.

But once it becomes angry,
   it can turn into the most
   frightening monster you've
   ever seen, engulfing everything...

Lavos.

Close your eyes and
   prick up your ears.
   Can you hear the cries of
   countless men swallowed by
   the sea? The hidden secret
   the sea whispers?

Schala's cries through time..

I recommend you learn to
   sense the mood of the sea.
   That's if you don't want to join
   the fellows already on the bottom.

[AuraTwilight]

Oh, yes?

Yes, but it was implied. Quote and reply to the entire sentence atleast. Don't yellow-journalize me.

Or wilt thou turn thy back on the
planet and tread another path?

That could mean anything. For all we know, it could be implying Serge to remain at home and live out his days, forgetting about Another.

What is the Flame doing to Serge here? It's not awakening to his presence like it did in Terra Tower. Maybe Lavos is simpley drawing Serge to him?

He's the Arbiter. It could be anything.

That's if you don't want to join
the fellows already on the bottom.

Yea. Like the dudes that like, drowned to dead. He needs to learn how to learn the two apart and seperate them, or he's dooming the world to the belly of the Time Devourer.

[Zaperking]

It's not stated anywhere.

Oh, yes?

Wilt thou change this world...Or wilt thou change thyself?
   
Wilt thou live on with thy mother planet...

Or wilt thou turn thy back on the
planet and tread another path?

That's one.

My second piece of evidence is this:



What is the Flame doing to Serge here? It's not awakening to his presence like it did in Terra Tower. Maybe Lavos is simpley drawing Serge to him?

And my third is this part:

Usually, you'll find the
   sea to be vast, deep...
   full of strength and energy,
   yet kind and gentle.

Schala.

But once it becomes angry,
   it can turn into the most
   frightening monster you've
   ever seen, engulfing everything...

Lavos.

Close your eyes and
   prick up your ears.
   Can you hear the cries of
   countless men swallowed by
   the sea? The hidden secret
   the sea whispers?

Schala's cries through time..

I recommend you learn to
   sense the mood of the sea.
   That's if you don't want to join
   the fellows already on the bottom.

1. What the dragon says is mumbo jumbo. Each dragon has a philosophical saying after you beat them.

2. That picture is seen like in a dream, before Serge even incounters it. So WTF? I saw it at Viper Manor, before the Dragon Tear clip.

3.Those quotes are yet again philosophical. You yourself said in another post that Arni revolved around fishing, just like how the "What came from the sea, has returned from the sea" thing ment. Arni is composed of a fishing life, to them, everything is about the sea.

Those quotes make no sence. Countless men? Schala's time storm caused Kid to come into the world and for Wazuki's boat to be washed up at Chronopolis. Obviousally, The sea can engulf anything... And the sea can be gentle, our tough. Expect this from a fisherman? Geez. If this was from someone like Kid or Harle personally, then i'f have another faught.
Plus, how the hell would the fisherman know anyway?

[Legend of the Past]

1. What the dragon says is mumbo jumbo. Each dragon has a philosophical saying after you beat them.

Haha, your first mistake. He says that after bestowing the Ice Breath. And after you defeat each of them no sayings, just say that they're with you on your quest to defeat FATE. Plus, this seemes too important to be mumbo jumbo.

2. That picture is seen like in a dream, before Serge even incounters it. So WTF? I saw it at Viper Manor, before the Dragon Tear clip.

That's right. It shows what might of happaned if Serge encountered the Home Dragon Tear. The background looks terribly like the Dead Sea, so...there.

3.Those quotes are yet again philosophical. You yourself said in another post that Arni revolved around fishing, just like how the "What came from the sea, has returned from the sea" thing ment. Arni is composed of a fishing life, to them, everything is about the sea.

Those quotes make no sence. Countless men? Schala's time storm caused Kid to come into the world and for Wazuki's boat to be washed up at Chronopolis. Obviousally, The sea can engulf anything... And the sea can be gentle, our tough. Expect this from a fisherman? Geez. If this was from someone like Kid or Harle personally, then i'f have another faught.
Plus, how the hell would the fisherman know anyway?

Well, he didn't. But Square put that in, like they do with so many times. The sea can be gentle (Like Schala) but a destrucitve monster (Lavos). The thing with the countless men could reffered to A)They tried to make it sound like the actual sea. B) How Lavos actually has seven beings inside of him, not two. The Dragon God was "devoured" to their contact with the Flame, meaning they were actually split.

[Zaperking]

No one knew that the Dragons were one being and that they were devoured. The only peolpe who knew was pretty much Belthasar and the dead ghost kids. No one else could have known because they lived in a world where the Gods were split since they rememberd (probably since 10,000BC) and even the locals acknowleged them to be seperate, alive beings, except in opposite worlds. Like in Another world, the Water Dragon is dead, in Home it's not etc.

Serge recieves the Ice breath right? Well, he can choose paths if he wants to really go to Fort Dragonia, or not. What I simply think the Dragon was trying to say is that Serge should either stick to it, or defy fate, because that's what the game revolves around, that whole consept. I simply like reasoning it out, because I hate big abstract ideas. I really want to kill the guy who said Schala and the Zealian's dyed their hair. My consepts base game evidance alot and reasonal thinking

And also, Serge saw the FF because he has prophetic powers, well close enough. He saw Kids's death, he sees the FF. This could tie in with my idea that Lavos communicates and sees the world through Serge because he's the arbiter. And anyway, because the Flame wasn't open, it means Lavos wasn't doing anything. Like they say "You stare into the Flame, and it stares back at you". If this is the whole consept on the flame while its concious, then the Flame has to be open to do anything. I think that clip was to symbolise something. Besides the wind pattern looks weird. A few are sucking in, some are sucking out. Also, So what if Serge got sucked towards it? He'd simply be burned if he's not the arbiter. Otherwise nothing should happen.  And because the FF wasn't really there, then it was probably just an illusion.

[Legend of the Past]

No one knew that the Dragons were one being and that they were devoured. The only peolpe who knew was pretty much Belthasar and the dead ghost kids. No one else could have known because they lived in a world where the Gods were split since they rememberd (probably since 10,000BC) and even the locals acknowleged them to be seperate, alive beings, except in opposite worlds. Like in Another world, the Water Dragon is dead, in Home it's not etc.

Serge recieves the Ice breath right? Well, he can choose paths if he wants to really go to Fort Dragonia, or not. What I simply think the Dragon was trying to say is that Serge should either stick to it, or defy fate, because that's what the game revolves around, that whole consept. I simply like reasoning it out, because I hate big abstract ideas. I really want to kill the guy who said Schala and the Zealian's dyed their hair. My consepts base game evidance alot and reasonal thinking

And also, Serge saw the FF because he has prophetic powers, well close enough. He saw Kids's death, he sees the FF. This could tie in with my idea that Lavos communicates and sees the world through Serge because he's the arbiter. And anyway, because the Flame wasn't open, it means Lavos wasn't doing anything. Like they say "You stare into the Flame, and it stares back at you". If this is the whole consept on the flame while its concious, then the Flame has to be open to do anything. I think that clip was to symbolise something. Besides the wind pattern looks weird. A few are sucking in, some are sucking out. Also, So what if Serge got sucked towards it? He'd simply be burned if he's not the arbiter. Otherwise nothing should happen.  And because the FF wasn't really there, then it was probably just an illusion.

So you're basiclly denying game evidence saying the FF isn't in the DS.

And Lavos looks into the world thorugh FATE, not Serge, because FATE has the Frozen Flame. And FATE sees all and knows all, like Miguel said.

And I never said they weren't seperate beings, I meant they were seperate when they were devoured by Lavos.

[AuraTwilight]

the DS? WTF?

and FATE may have the Frozen Flame, but he doesn't control it. Infact, shouldn't Lavos be omniscient anyway?

[Legend of the Past]

the DS? WTF??

The Dead Sea.

and FATE may have the Frozen Flame, but he doesn't control it.

So? Lavos can still see the world through it, and thus, through FATE.

shouldn't Lavos be omniscient anyway?

Sure. If he'd be in the Chrono dimension.

[AuraTwilight]

Oh, Dead Sea. Anyway, if he was in the Tesseract, wouldn't his omniscience be HEIGHTENED like it was for Schala? There's no way she'd be able to pick up Serge's cries with normal ears.