7/2/05 - Which Gurus' invention has had the most impact?

[Sentenal]

I don't think the Neo Epoch and the Epoch are the same thing.

[Aitrus]

In programming, the symbol " != " means "does not equal."  Since that's a legal statement, the program compiles and runs.  For most software companies, that equals a success and it gets shipped.

Now, as for my answer... I really have no idea, as most of these are linked.  The Pendant, the Mammon Machine, and the Ocean Palace all figure into one of the largest pieces of the story.  The Chrono Trigger is important, if not vital.  The Masamune is, well, really really cool.  FATE is the driving force behind the majority of Cross.  The Epoch is a major transport, and the Sapling of Hope kicks off the best scripted sidequest in the game, and let's you save Lucca's mom.

*sigh*  I'm gonna go with the Mammon Machine, as it was built to harness Lavos, which is what kicked this whole show off.  The Pendant is very important, but it mostly acted as a magical key.  The Mammon Machine, however, is pure power.

[Salvadeiro]

The Masamune will always go down as the "sword that slit a thousand throats and saved an entire kingdom."  The Masamune is like a billion years of hard work, its previous owners all sealed in this one object.  Amazing.  Also, I had no idea that the Mammon Machine was created by Melchior.  Or that it was Belthasars idea to create the Ocean Palace.

[Daniel Krispin]

The Masamune will always go down as the "sword that slit a thousand throats and saved an entire kingdom."

Is it just me, or was the way you put that stylistically similar to Marlow's Faustus, with, 'face that launched a thousand ships and burned the topless towers of Ilium'?

[Salvadeiro]

I had no idea lol, but no, it sorta came out like that.  But the Masamune did kinda slit a thousand throats, monster's throats, and if i could say saved an entire kingdom, more like saved an entire world and its children (the time periods)

[DarkGizmo]

I voted the pendant because without it there would be no impact and Lavos would have never be killed

It's ironic how melchior made (/though of?) the mammon machine to later try to destroy it...

[Sentenal]

Plus, hes the Guru of Life who makes weapons.

[Salvadeiro]

So basically, being the Guru of Life and creator or weapons (destruction) causes him to be somewhat of the "God of Creation and Destruction"  He creates things to later destroy them.  Odd indeed. Good Observation

[Sentenal]

How bout the Guru of Time winding up in the End of Time, or the Guru of Reason going insane?

[DarkGizmo]

How bout the Guru of Time winding up in the End of Time, or the Guru of Reason going insane?

I read somewhere (here?) that those were jokes from the creators that each gurus have some ironic side, for the guru of reason, I don,t remember when he goes insane (I only saw some sprite of it) when do you see it?

[Salvadeiro]

Chrono Trigger is game filled with Irony.  LOTS and LOTS of Irony.  Especially around the fall of Zeal, when you meet all these Ironic Characters; The Gurus in general.

[Sentenal]

Talk to Belthasar in 2300 when you first get to that era.

[YbrikMetaknight]

Translanka, those two posts reference computer programming. "Epoch != Neo Epoch;" means, literally, "The Epoch is not equal to the Neo Epoch." In other words, the two time machines are not one and the same. You see, "!=" simply means "not equal," at least in most popular computer languages. And the semicolon indicates the end of a line of code in every language I've used.

Also, I think the Pendant is the most influential. Without it, Chrono and Marle would never have gone back in time to start the adventure. Then there's all the stuff with the Mammon Machine/Pendant interface.

[Salvadeiro]

True the pendant did spark this whole event.  Or whole chain of events.

[SilentMartyr]

I never said they were the same, but obviously thier desgins are simliar.