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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2005, 07:49:18 pm »
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lol with all this "fighting" between chrono compendium people and chrono shock people once i finish chrono arc and chrono tactics i should make a spinoff of the chrono tactics game,
chrono compendium Vs chrono shock.
hehe i can just imagine it now :P


hehehe, can i be in it?

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2005, 07:51:29 pm »
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*That large number of guests usually indicates that a search engine, in this case google more than likely, was cacheing the pages. Though in the first days of CS over 4 years ago having 50-60 real people on at any given time was not unusal.

*The reason for no site content lies in a combination of both bad hosting in the past where content was lost and the fact that we have lives.

*There is less discussion on CS for the main reason, as briefly mentioned before, is that the site is four years old. And it was a fusion of a CT and CC site that had a year or so run before that. So after 5 years or so, give or take, you run out of things to analyze and discuss. Been there done that.

*Not to knock your site or anything, because granted I've never really looked at it, but you're not the only ones to feature unique content. You just happen to have webmasters and staffers that have time to work on it. Whereas many of our staffers such as myself, are in college full time and/or have jobs. College > fansite in my opinion.

*At this point I'm not really sure what led me to post any of this. Maybe it was the nasty tones on both sides. The way I see it there aren't many CT/CC sites as it is so theres no reason to be snarky to each other. Especially when mentioning the intelligence level of posts and debates. I only wish the forums hadn't crashed a year or so ago.

At any rate, good luck with your site.  :)


Nasty tones? No, it was not really nasty. It was simply stating a fact. There is far more in depth analysis here, if one looks over all the articles, the discussions on time-travel, origins of characters, real-world influences. Considering the way ZeaLitY was speaking, it seemed there was a bit of a rivalry between the two forums, so I went over to discern exactly what this Chrono Shock was. I found forums not much different than, say, the Chronicles forums, where most of the discussion seems to be non-Chrono, and what is is generally surface discussions of who does what, and the like. In contrast, the Compendium has discussions ranging from technical to theological to philosophical, and approach it, as I have said before, in a manner befitting the ancient Hellenic philosophers, of open discussion and theorizing. So it's whatever the site intends, I suppose. I was approaching the comment in terms of how analytical the discussions were on both sites (which is ZeaLitY's goal), and I think from that field my comment was fair. I never said that was a bad thing, either, all I said that, as far as the goals of the Compendium go, ZeaLitY does not have much in the way of competition, which he appeared to be fearing.

And, to be honest, what got me a little frustrated when looking over the forums was looking at the name pronounciation thread, and not being able to reply due to the forum necromancy it would constitute. The problem with the thread was that it seemed that one poster (MN or something to that effect) was maintaining wrong assumptions, and it bothered me not to be able to correct them. Namely: 1.) That English is based mostly in Latin. It isn't. Only about 3 or 4%, or something like that, is from Latin. Most is indigenous to the North. 2.) That Latin for its part comes from Hellenic/Greek. It doesn't either. Say, the word 'lord': domino in Latin, anaks in Hellenic; 'king': Basileus or something to that effect in Hellenic, Rex in Latin; 'sword': Gladius in Latin, Skiphos in Hellenic. Anyway, both are Indo-European languages, and share a few words here or there because of their roots, but one is not the decendent of the other, especially since Latin speaking people colonized the Palantine Hill around 900BC, the very time when Hellas/Greece was coming out of its Dark Age. Contact didn't really come in a major way until the expeditionary force of the Macedonian Pyhrrus destroyed the Roman armies, 200 or 300BC. 3.) That Magus is pronounced May-gus in Latin, and should technically be Mah-jus because it comes from Chaldean. Now, I'm certain it is Mah-gus in Latin. Furthermore, I doubt the original was Chaldean, either. The Magi were a Persian group, not Chaldean. The Chaldeans were further west, around Ur, than the Persians - not until later did the Persians move west. I could be wrong, I suppose, but it still gives me cause for doubt, as Belthesar is certainly not a Chaldean name, as he maintains: it is Babylonian.

Anyway, it seemed to me that this was one of the few threads actually analyzing the Chrono world as the Compendium does. Most of the others were just game-topics. So I hope you can excuse me on these grounds.


Sorry, just didn't want my reply I spent a while on getting lost on the last page, with nobody looking at it.

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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2005, 11:44:39 pm »
I think that could be a nice post to have in the pronounciation thread.

But like I said before, CS had many thought provoking threads of CS, CC and non-game topics prior the forums crashing on several occasions. Threads that would rival those of which you speak of here. Just a shame that the files were either not fully backed up or had corrupt data. But such is life.

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2005, 04:30:26 am »
Before aught else is aaid, Wisp, by the way, you did convince me in some regard. I will amend what I said before to only apply to how things currently stand, and not how they were in grander days. But now...


Hmmm... I would like to know: what was moronic about my statements? If those at CS can give conclusive evidence that I was wrong in saying that our discussions have ten times the depth and thought process, go ahead, I challenge you - prove it and I shall admit error. I have done so in the past. But so long as you have threads about 'Moron of the day', it acts in your dis-favour, proving the veracity of what I have said, and I would appreciate not being labelled as such simply for voicing something that is truth - harsh though it may be, it is still truth. If such a comment angers you so, then give an analytical reply, and counter with logic - as Wisp did so lately. Otherwise you are speaking to the wind, and displaying a certain measure of insecurity. If you are so adamantly right, tell me why, and prove it! Don't name someone a moron just because you do not like their stance. It does not befit scientific method, which is essentially what I was maintining the CS forums lacked.

Now, I have based my comment on date, on the number of threads and the length of discussion. My inference of depth of analysis was based on the volume of existing threads about series events. Moreover, it might also be noted that of all the sub-forums contained within CS, few pertain to looking at the series in a manner that seeks to understand scientifically.

Moreover, I would appreciate if I am not misconstrued: I never threw around a name claiming it to be one of the staff - it was simply the person that was maintaining these things, and by post count seemed to be a more regular poster. And I was speaking in direct reply to a certain error I found regarding Hellenic and Latin languages, and the pronounciation thereof, which is a matter most dear to me. That stood as a seperate issue, however, from the other comments, and as somewhat of an excuse for my more vehement toungue - although my style of speech is even as guilty.

Essentially, though, I maintained a stance that the Compendium looks at things in far more logical and analyitical a fashion. If I am wrong, by all means correct me with proof, and not name-calling. That's fool's work, and more often than not is simply the weapon of those that cannot defend themselves through proof - and I should think you do not wish to follow that sort. So... prove it. I was at odds with the Compendium at first - some may remember that here - but they convinced me otherwise, and I was wrong. I maintained they thought about these things too deeply, actually, but I conceded my error in time, and now ardently defend their work. So defend yourselves if you please, and prove me wrong. But don't go ad hominem on me; that's a logical fallacy.

Also remember: this comment to ZeaLitY was meant as support and kindling for his zeal to work on this site, and to quell any insecurity he may have had about competition. I actually did not mean it as something against CS, as some might see it as, but rather as support for the Compendium. Just because one is seen better than the other does not make the lesser bad.

Oh, and for those who wonder what in this wide earth I am speaking in reply to:
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http://www.chronoshock.com/community/showthread.php?t=1319&page=2&pp=16

I wasn't going to take that without a rebuttle; I'm too hot-headed for that. But I don't wish to bother registering over there.

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2005, 02:02:41 pm »
I like how you are all so obsessed with Chronoshock. :)

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2005, 03:30:22 pm »
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I like how you are all so obsessed with Chronoshock. :)


Rivalries are so much fun, aren't they?

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2005, 04:44:24 pm »
I was unawares of any such rivalry...I thought we were all like brothers and sisters within the realm of the Chrono community as a whole...YA GOTTA FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO CHROOONOO!

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2005, 05:01:41 pm »
Rivalries are for people with too much time on their hands.

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2005, 05:04:00 pm »
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I think that could be a nice post to have in the pronounciation thread.

But like I said before, CS had many thought provoking threads of CS, CC and non-game topics prior the forums crashing on several occasions. Threads that would rival those of which you speak of here. Just a shame that the files were either not fully backed up or had corrupt data. But such is life.




People with your attitude & arrogance are not welcome here.
This is *NOT* Chrono Shock - it will never be.
So go back to the place you crawled from.

May this place remain free of evil dictators (so called "moderator") such as yourself.

Long live 'Chrono Compendium' !


As for CS, I can't say I'm sorry.....



"I am summoned by the will to vanquish evil...
Goddess of the Moon, lend me your power...
Scourge the insolent evil from this world..."

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2005, 06:50:15 pm »
Doesn't Ramsus sorta moderate? I mean, mostly we just have good taste and common decency...But...w/e...

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2005, 07:39:15 pm »
I didn't mean moderators in general.
I just ment her.
She's a moderator at Chrono Shock and she thinks that it gives her the privellge to be mean to other people.

I didn't notice such things at Chrono Compendium and I don't want her to poison this community.

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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2005, 08:54:18 pm »
I guess I don't fuck around too much in Chrono Shock...

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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2005, 10:23:26 am »
I don't know exactly where I was being mean to anyone in particular, or even really in general. And I certainly don't think being a mod gives me any privelleges except those inherent in the position, like... ya know... closing threads at CS. I apologize if by posting in one thread trying to defend my site while trying to maybe calm down this little "feud" that I was poisoning your site. I'm sorry I intruded upon your little community.

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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2005, 10:51:44 am »
yep i definatly have to make that compendium Vs shock game hehehehe  :twisted: when i get Chrono tactics done ill have signups

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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2005, 11:49:28 am »
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I don't know exactly where I was being mean to anyone in particular, or even really in general. And I certainly don't think being a mod gives me any privelleges except those inherent in the position, like... ya know... closing threads at CS. I apologize if by posting in one thread trying to defend my site while trying to maybe calm down this little "feud" that I was poisoning your site. I'm sorry I intruded upon your little community.

I think some of us here just misunderstood what you said in your posts. No need to be sorry Wisp.