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Dalton's Magical Abilities FINALLY figured out... I think
« on: June 12, 2005, 02:51:42 pm »
I was just playing through the Blackbird and came across a line that I think can finally rest that argument.

Quote from: Robo
It's a massive magic energy reaction!


He said that right before the GolemBoss. I think that this proves that Dalton can perform Magic. But rebuttle is welcome :)

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 02:57:17 pm »
Whats the context of that?

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Re: Dalton's Magical Abilities FINALLY figured out... I thin
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 03:24:37 pm »
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I was just playing through the Blackbird and came across a line that I think can finally rest that argument.

Quote from: Robo
It's a massive magic energy reaction!


He said that right before the GolemBoss. I think that this proves that Dalton can perform Magic. But rebuttle is welcome :)


Dalton can use Magic, when you killed is Golem when you first see Queen Zeal, he summons it (magically) and if you kill it (did it in new Game +) he do some magic that instantly kill your allies.

Like Sentenal said, what is this suppose to prove ?

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2005, 01:26:01 am »
It was never solidified that Dalton could use magic. Nothing ever said he used magic. All of his other attacks can be explained by other means.

I guess this isn't as groundbreaking as I thought...

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2005, 02:46:56 am »
He is a man of Zeal, however, and one of very high standing. It would be exceedingly strange if he could rise to such a position amongst the people and not have any sorcerous powers. After all, those of Zeal seem to be most condescending to any that are un-Enlightened, as that would make Dalton. Remember, however, that he casts a mighty fire at your party, which is the manner in which they are captured and taken aboard the Blackbird. I think that alone should exemplify his power. Moreoever, any golem is, essentially, magical: a golem is, in legend, a creature of clay brought to life by magical means for the purpose of servitude. To have power over these creatures near certainly precludes knowledge of enchantment.

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 02:56:50 am »
so to summarize...

earthbound ones didnt have magical abilities

Zealians Possesed Sorcery and magical powers

Dalton=zealian and and by my count fourth in line to the throne

So for him NOT to have any powers wouldent make sense.

the realization that "dalton has magical power" is not one at all.

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2005, 12:50:35 pm »
Of course only the people who think he has magical abilities will post. Grrr.

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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2005, 04:46:14 pm »
Well, from his Plus form's counter attack, we can surmise he is ironically lightning/heaven innately, but that's not a magic attack.  The only things we see him use that could be magic are:
1) Teleportation (Terra Cave, Ocean Palace)
2) Summoning various Golems
3) Shooting fire at the party in the Last Village

#1 could be a result of Zealot magical technology.  The other two are a bit harder to disbunk...

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Re: Dalton's Magical Abilities FINALLY figured out... I thin
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2005, 06:46:21 pm »
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I was just playing through the Blackbird and came across a line that I think can finally rest that argument.

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It's a massive magic energy reaction!


He said that right before the GolemBoss. I think that this proves that Dalton can perform Magic. But rebuttle is welcome :)

Maybe Robo's talking about the GolemBoss, or the Epoch?

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2005, 07:01:08 pm »
Wait, Robo said that?

Teloportation could be some magic based Zealian technology.

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 11:45:13 pm »
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I was just playing through the Blackbird and came across a line that I think can finally rest that argument.

Quote from: Robo
It's a massive magic energy reaction!


He said that right before the GolemBoss. I think that this proves that Dalton can perform Magic. But rebuttle is welcome :)

Maybe Robo's talking about the GolemBoss, or the Epoch?


He says it before the gate appears, when they stop on the corner of the wing.

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2005, 12:29:54 pm »
I don't think Dalton made that gate, or he wouldn't have tried to summon the Golem Boss after the fight on the Epoch.

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2005, 12:32:19 pm »
So you are implying that the Golems are of thier own free will??

Most likely Dalton did not realize that the GolemBoss had run away, which was why he resummoned it.

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2005, 05:42:32 pm »
He didnt resummon it. You fight the golem boss in the lower left wing of the blackbird. Dalton didnt know that you fought and drove it away. So dalton was sucked into the portal (which is most likely a gate)

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2005, 06:08:26 pm »
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He didnt resummon it. You fight the golem boss in the lower left wing of the blackbird. Dalton didnt know that you fought and drove it away. So dalton was sucked into the portal (which is most likely a gate)


Impossible, that would mean he had the magical power to time travel that would make him REALLY powerful.