Author Topic: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment  (Read 3486 times)

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2009, 03:05:19 pm »
I just saw this and was like, What goes around comes around BITCH!

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2009, 03:47:24 pm »
Could the C&D against CE be used as evidence of "unfair business practices?"

I'm honestly not sure how it couldn't be. Chances are, people on the development team owned the original cartridge so possessing the ROM isn't illegal in any way. Plus, there was no plan for monetary gain, they were just messing with code in hopes to make a full-fledged sequel to share across the internet for free.

I really don't see why they would bother sending a C&D to begin with, all of the activity was harmless.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2009, 03:57:23 pm »
I just saw this and was like, What goes around comes around BITCH!
Hah! Well put, ZealKnight.
Could the C&D against CE be used as evidence of "unfair business practices?"  Also, mav, is "unjust enrichment" related to the concept of "positive harm" as you understand it? It's pretty mindblowing to me.
From my limited understanding, positive harm generally comes about from one organization getting a positive benefit due to the [unlawful] actions of another organization. I don't know if positive harm occurs outside of copyright cases, but that's where my understanding from. Let's say Crimson Echoes was released, if Square saw an increase in the popularity and demand for Chrono Trigger, Square would be getting the positive harm: they're harmed by the theft of copyright material, but are gaining something positive out the entire situation.

I believe unjust enrichment is when one organization or company is making expenses off another organization, company, or person through unlawful means or wrongful actions. Let's say you sign up for a service by a company and you later find out that the company was making inordinate money off you due to some mistake (on their part) or maybe even some kind of factual omission, that would be unjust enrichment.

The difference comes down to the fact that positive harm comes from a company benefiting because of the unlawful action of someone else (like copyright infringement), whereas unjust enrichment comes from a company using unlawful actions to benefit off someone else, without that person's knowledge. I hope that made sense--unjust enrichment is too overly elaborated for me to get a coherent understanding...

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 04:53:54 pm »
Quick! Finish CE and release it while their lawyers are distracted! :lol:

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2009, 06:30:10 pm »
If the kid's got a good case, then good for them.

5 million/100,000=$50 gained for each member of the law suit. This one is actually not so frivolous as I had thought when I read this.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2009, 06:44:32 pm »
Dipshits finally got what they deserved. Problem is, they'll probably win anyway. We'll see where it goes. I hope they lose. Looks like the lawyers there finally have something better to do than to get bored and send cease and desists.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2009, 08:47:11 pm »
damn, you guys keep beating me to these news reports, i was just about to post this
but yeah, i couldnt think about whether the case is just or not, in my mind the only thing i was thinking was "take that SE"

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2009, 09:56:06 pm »
Really though, any large corporation is engaged in numerous lawsuits at any one time. This is probably just another speck on top of an already large docket.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2009, 10:02:33 pm »
Hmm...this should turn out interesting....*chuckles*

Though I will admit that Square Enix is rather snobbish with these matters at times.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2009, 10:12:38 pm »
Really though, any large corporation is engaged in numerous lawsuits at any one time. This is probably just another speck on top of an already large docket.

Figures. Facts always get in the way of a "booyah!" feeling when someone gets what they deserve.  :(

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2009, 11:44:29 pm »
Really though, any large corporation is engaged in numerous lawsuits at any one time. This is probably just another speck on top of an already large docket.

 Aye, but when was the last time such news got spread around so much?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 11:47:11 pm by Captain B »

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2009, 01:26:58 am »
The term ' instant karma' comes to mind.

Even if it goes nowhere, it's satisfying to read.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2009, 02:02:47 am »
SE got busy with lawsuit drama recently eh? I doubt the person who sued SE can win in any way,
otherwise, 5M is nothing to SE but another throw of 50 gram for such big company. I still wondering what the victim  of 100,00
people gonna do with the money if they win.

I hope this got nothing to do with Chrono Compendium event recently.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 05:55:41 am by kid123 »

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2009, 03:06:28 am »
Really, I kinda want square to win. The reason being, What will happen to them? What are the repercussions of this law suit? Delay of XIII? Delay of XIV? Nothing but FF now? I'm sure it won't be too big of a blow, but really this could be a major blow to their rep in the least. Also this will lie on the judge. You know Red Bull's Slogan is no longer it gives you wings because someone sued false advertising? SE may just lose.

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Re: Square Enix Sued for Unfair Business Practices, Unjust Enrichment
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2009, 03:33:38 am »
Sweet justice! I'm hoping the former FFXI fans will get their $50; considering all the BS Square-Enix has doled out to it's many fans, it's the least they could do. It hasn't been the same on any front since the merger...