CT DS more or less censored

[idioticidioms]

man, the person you stole it from must have less of a life than I do, and thats saying a lot, lol.

[V_Translanka]

Aren't those just the Statues you fight before Kefka? I don't think I ever paid attention to the individual parts' names.

[mav]

Now, if you were asking which translation is generally more accurate, it's gonna be the Japanese script. Always.

Uh...The Japanese script wouldn't be a translation...>_>

Ah, my mistake, I should have said that American translations are almost always less accurate than the original scripts.

And I do find it strange that the SNES port of CT had some of the religious influences injected into the translation we had in America. While names like Belthasar, Gaspar, and Melchior aren't exactly screaming Jesus, they seem a helluva lot more religious than the words pray or holy: pray and holy aren't strictly religious or anything (although the two words tend to go hand-in-hand with religion)...but Belthasar, Gaspar, and Melchior, those are the Three Wise Men, the Biblical Magi...THOSE ARE STRAIGHT FROM A SPECIFIC RELIGION! Whatever though, I happen to like seeing religious influence in game, strangeness aside.

[idioticidioms]

Actually, if I'm correct, they're not just from one religion but a couple. A lot of religions have a few things in common with each other. Each religion has a story of Noah and his Ark, though with different names for different religions, of course. The romans and Greeks had a lot of the same Gods, but with different names. A lot of the Christian religion's holiday of Christmas was stolen from the pagans. I mean, it's just a matter of how big of a deal do you want to make out of a video game using three names from one religion. Doesnt seem to be a big deal when you consider Final Fantasy using the names Shiva, Titan, Quetzacotl, Seraphim, Leviathan, Odin and Raiden, Fenrir, Ragnarok etc. Or games that are completely based off of one religion, like Exodus for the NES. To me, it's not too big of a deal.

[Romana]

I've never actually finished FFVI, I always assumed the three statues/goddesses were the Magus Sisters, for some reason... Probably because of a friend telling me that.

[V_Translanka]

Weren't the Magus Sisters the dream creatures that totally effed Cyan when he sleeps in Doma (the ones that were Woosley'd into the 3 Stooges)?

[Acacia Sgt]

No, the Magus Sisters were in IV as bosses, and X as Aeons, but not in VI.

[V_Translanka]

Oh, I guess they just fight similarly. I guess two (couldn't find the 3rd) of the Stooges' names in Japan were Suuno & Seeno where the Magus Sisters' Japanese names were Dogu (ドグ), Magu (マグ), and Ragu (ラグ)...

[mav]

Actually, if I'm correct, they're not just from one religion but a couple. A lot of religions have a few things in common with each other. Each religion has a story of Noah and his Ark, though with different names for different religions, of course. The romans and Greeks had a lot of the same Gods, but with different names. A lot of the Christian religion's holiday of Christmas was stolen from the pagans. I mean, it's just a matter of how big of a deal do you want to make out of a video game using three names from one religion. Doesnt seem to be a big deal when you consider Final Fantasy using the names Shiva, Titan, Quetzacotl, Seraphim, Leviathan, Odin and Raiden, Fenrir, Ragnarok etc. Or games that are completely based off of one religion, like Exodus for the NES. To me, it's not too big of a deal.

True, true, many traditions, names, events, etc, are shared between religions, especially within the Abrahamic religions, but that aside, the three Wise Men are a part of a very religious image. While that image is shared between a handful of religions, the choice of those three names are a direct nod to Jesus' birth, nay? Again, I have nothing against it, they're just names. But why would names like Shiva, Belthasar, Ifrit, and various others be included while less specific words like holy and pray be removed?

[Acacia Sgt]

True, true, many traditions, names, events, etc, are shared between religions, especially within the Abrahamic religions, but that aside, the three Wise Men are a part of a very religious image. While that image is shared between a handful of religions, the choice of those three names are a direct nod to Jesus' birth, nay? Again, I have nothing against it, they're just names. But why would names like Shiva, Belthasar, Ifrit, and various others be included while less specific words like holy and pray be removed?

Because of that? A name is just a name, it can be related to many things, or none at all, so it's probably no big of a deal.

[mav]

Yet holy was off limits? A name carries a heavier connotation than a word like holy, right?

[Acacia Sgt]

How many definitions does the word 'holy' has?

I mean that words like names aren't just related to religion, they can be related to many things, which is why not everyone will think of religion as the first thing with the name alone.

Words like holy doesn't have that many things to relate, which is why.

[V_Translanka]

Blame the wacky overly protective Christians of the time that were freaking out about everything from Rock & Roll to comic books...Everything the youth was into back then was apparently corrupting them...Let's all smoke a bowl & play Chrono Trigger in protest~!!

[tripehound]

But why would names like Shiva, Belthasar, Ifrit, and various others be included while less specific words like holy and pray be removed?

The historic foundations of western culture are so highly built on religion that names and topics like that can get slipped in without offending anyone. We're so used to seeing certain concepts, and so religiously lax anymore, that we no longer identify them as being religious in the first place. Take some common, western, first names for example: John, James, Matthew, Aaron, Ann, Judy, Elizabeth, Mary, Rachel, Jake. All of these have connections to Christianity, but very few in today's culture would recognize them as being religious in nature. I'm sure there are thousands of other aspects, not just in video games, that get constantly overlooked.

[idioticidioms]

Weren't the Magus Sisters the dream creatures that totally effed Cyan when he sleeps in Doma (the ones that were Woosley'd into the 3 Stooges)?

No, different creatures entirely. The 3 Dream stooges are male, and in english are named Larry, Curly and Moe. Magus Sisters are entirely different.