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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2008, 03:50:07 am »
Well Maggiekarp's a cool guy, he know its not being stolen.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2008, 04:42:24 am »
By the way, That was maggiekarp's Comic. I'd be mad if someone posted something of mine without telling me, so that's why I bother.
On a forum post? That would be a bit over sensitive... I mean sure if a site decided to host it and make profit off of it, but a forum post?

Would help if he/she put his/her name on it, I actually found it in a random corner that is the internet. Along with some other weird things. Now I must find this maggiekarp.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2008, 04:47:48 am by lockgar »

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2008, 04:47:17 am »
She's on this forum; she drew it while on these forums.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2008, 04:49:45 am »
She's on this forum; she drew it while on these forums.

Lovely, I hope to see more of her work then, now that I actually know who she is :) .

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2008, 04:51:57 am »
Here is some of the work while on this forum. Wait, Maggiekarp's a femme fatale?

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2008, 01:49:33 pm »
The Fiendlord comic is my favorite. The part at the end inspired me to create a sprite comic about anger management....

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2008, 10:57:55 pm »
I know that it has already been linked, but this whole Magus discussion has been done to death, we can assume now that Magus is in fact Guile. Put simply, the new ending is a sort of revision, linking Magus to Guile with the amnesia. It seems somewhat odd that two incredibly similar characters would both have amnesia, one would allude to having "Dark Power" which the other most certainly has, and yet be completely different people. 
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6310.0
It never says Guile has amnesia. He is "searching for enigmas." He refers to the Frozen Flame as "Dark Power," not any power he has.

In short, no, it has NOT been proven that Guile is Magus.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2008, 11:04:37 pm »
Nor has it been proven that Guile is NOT Magus, so such speculation is valid.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2008, 11:28:47 pm »
It's rather odd though that at the end, Magus gets random Amnesia and Guile has it to in CC...Almost the same character design, was suppose to be Magus...It's hard to consider that it's not, but it is a possibility.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2008, 11:30:33 pm »
As valid as speculation is, we can't tote it as fact--at times we've carried this Magus is Guile idea to the point where we're making assumptions off of unproven assumptions. As blatant as we think the in-game text may be, it's still ambiguous to the point where we're still left in the dark.

It's a possibility, like Justin said, but it's not grounded in cement yet.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2008, 12:20:19 am »
This is disproven by the very mechanics of Time Bastard themselves. If something is subjected to Time Bastard, then it ceases to exist within the Darkness Of Time.

Not necessarily. We know that Lavos still exists in the DBT as first the Dream Devourer and then the Time Devourer. In Chrono Cross, before the Dead Sea is destroyed Miguel mentions that it is "returning to the darkness of time" from whence it came. So perhaps that which is TB'd away is not necessarily destroyed completely? Perhaps some vestige of it remains in the DBT? That is clearly still a possibility.


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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2008, 12:38:35 am »
As valid as speculation is, we can't tote it as fact--at times we've carried this Magus is Guile idea to the point where we're making assumptions off of unproven assumptions. As blatant as we think the in-game text may be, it's still ambiguous to the point where we're still left in the dark.

It's a possibility, like Justin said, but it's not grounded in cement yet.

Indeed that is true, there is nothing 100% proven that Magus will become Guile. For all we know he could have been place at any point in time, and become anyone he wants.

I personally, wish they did something else with Magus in this ending, ZeaLitY said it the best.
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rebuked by Schala and resigned to commit mental suicide is hard to bear.
The long haired, Pale skin, Magus kills himself "mentally".......... (Do I really need to say what that reminds you of?) GREAT, JUST GREAT SQUARE, can you make one game without that? He was always dangerously close before, but now..... Don't get me wrong, the mental suicide fits sure....

O well, he still has one of my favorite quotes.

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh."
- Magus
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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2008, 01:31:28 am »
Yeah, personally I think if they want to write a sequel story, they might not consider Guile as Magus again. Just because once they abandoned that idea, so they tried to make Guile a individual character, really, it is no good to pick up an abandoned idea.
Another problem is his age. Magus should be older than mid-20s, though a mid-aged man can look younger than his age, sometimes...
Although, his human appearence seems reasonable. Because in RD(might be earlier idea of CC), Magil probably doesn't have pointed ears(if so, everyone will notice that). If it is like what the DBT Magus says in DT DS, he throws away his past, maybe his fiend appearence will disappeared as well later.

BTW, the young traveler who happened to carry Hydra Humour is also suspicious, don't you think?

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Doc:
   Shortly after you left, a young
   traveler who happened to have
   Hydra Humour visited the village.
   Thanks to him, we were
   able to save her life...
   After the poisoning
   was neutralized,
   she waited a few
   days for you.


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Doc:
   It was a coincidence...
   No, it was probably an
   act of fate.
   After you left the village,
   a young man came to visit me
   upon hearing of the patient's
   condition from a villager.
   He had brought a certain
   item with him.

Member:
   A certain item?
   You don't mean...?

Doc:
   Yes, it was Hydra Humour.
   He happened to have a vial
   of it with him at the time...

Kid:
   Hey doc, who was that guy?
   Do you at least know his name?

Doc:
   I am sorry.
   I do not know...
   He only told me that he
   '"came from the mainland."'

Kid:
   ...Came from the mainland?
   Tsk! At least give me a chance
   to thank him! Sheeze!
   I hate being in debt to others!
   Ah, hell!
   When I find him I'll...!?
   Wait, that's not what I wanna do.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2008, 01:33:26 am »
I'm fairly certain (don't quote me on this) that the traveller who saves Kid is identified as Norris in one of the endings.

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Re: CT DS Ending Questions Spoilers for both CT and Cross
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2008, 01:35:44 am »
I'm fairly certain (don't quote me on this) that the traveller who saves Kid is identified as Norris in one of the endings.

I'm equally certain. I've heard it before that it was Norris.