Author Topic: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)  (Read 6967 times)

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2012, 11:22:50 pm »
Reviving a dead topic to ask something

Earlier you said Riddel and Esmeld didn't have a romantic relationship, merely that she and Viper were kind to him. But also in those lines:
Quote from: Esmeld, Demiforce Ver.
"Anyhow, for the sake of harnessing the power of the Frozen Flame, Lord Lynx
abducted Miss Riddel, taking her as his own daughter. Within that strange
rock lies a strong mental connection to this particular Mistress...
And so, I have resided here all these years, silently waiting for the right
time to exact revenge on Lord Lynx for taking my dear Miss Riddel from me.
If you have come in order to find Lord Lynx, promise me you will not mention
any of this. You have come here to slay him, have you not?" Esmeld asks
calmly, holding the key in his hand.

Is the connection between Riddel and the Frozen Flame in the original version? Is she... AN ARBITER?! She knows an awful lot about Zeal in the original too, so...

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #76 on: September 13, 2012, 11:54:54 pm »

I think that is where the arbiter idea comes from? She knows alot about Zeal perhaps because her "father" knows. You know Lynx has a good collection of books/tomes...or perhaps Viper himself was also an Zeal expert.

It reminds me of some odd story. For example, in Splatterhouse 3 (an video game if you don't know), the minions of the Evil God plan to resurrect him with the power of the Dark Stone, they also need a child with psychic power as a key, otherwise the "rite" won't work.

Though that is not something famous, but I wonder such kind of stories are not uncommon, a writer like Kato might have read a lot, so there's a chance the idea slipped through his mind...
« Last Edit: September 13, 2012, 11:56:45 pm by utunnels »

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2012, 06:40:35 pm »
maggiekarp's question made me wonder something when I looked up the Japanese line.
Quote from: Esmeld
「凍てついた炎の力を殺さないために、ヤマネコ様はリデルお嬢様をひきとられたのです。
 あの生きた、不思議な石は、お嬢様と精神的なつながりがあるようで……。
I'm curious about the first sentence. Online translations suggest it's saying something about not killing the power of the Frozen Flame. Is that right? Does it make sense with the Demiforce interpretation of 'harnessing' the Flame's power (as in he adopted her to make full use of its power), or is it something different (as in possibly the Flame's power going down if anything happened to her)?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 11:44:43 pm by Vehek »

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2012, 10:59:00 pm »
Yeah, you are right.  In order not to kill the power of the Frozen Flame, Lord Lynx adopted Miss Riddel as his daughter. The living, mysterious stone seems to have some sort of mental connection with Miss Riddel (or have a connection with Miss Riddel's mentality, sounds better in that way).
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 11:02:46 pm by utunnels »

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2012, 11:57:45 pm »
Is it possible that Lynx thought the wrong girl was Schala?

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #80 on: September 19, 2012, 01:25:53 am »
No evidence.
But maybe Vera knows more.

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2013, 12:42:40 am »
Damn, what should we make of this? Riddel, a potential Arbiter?

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Re: Radical Dreamers Version Differences (spoilers)
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2013, 04:37:10 am »
That's an old theory. You don't need the info here to think up that theory.
Or was there something in the retranslated text that makes it more viable?
« Last Edit: April 21, 2013, 04:44:22 am by Vehek »