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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #255 on: December 26, 2008, 09:32:56 pm »
It was leak a while ago, I been told its MUCH better then it seems. Still over all a mediocre movie but the fights are well done, and the last one w/ Goku vs. Piccolo is suppose to be really good actually.

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #256 on: December 26, 2008, 09:39:11 pm »
Also, one thing I must ask that buggs me. WHY THE HELL DOES MAGUS HAVE POINTY EARS WHEN JANUS'S EARS ARE NORMAL, AND JANUS IS HUMAN?!!!!!

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #257 on: December 26, 2008, 09:43:21 pm »
Ah yet another reason he's not as good as Robo or Frog or Lucca or Alya or Crono or even Marle. He has pointy ears.

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #258 on: December 27, 2008, 12:29:00 am »
I saw the trailer for DragonBall: Evolution, and I agree with all the haters. It FAILS.

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It must be during his time in "the Darkness" in which he gained them as proof he survived it.

Quote from: Magus, while fighting Lavos in the Ocean Palace (SNES Version)
I survived the darkness to defeat you, Lavos!

(I'll fix it when I see its DS counterpart. Just beat Zombor in my run.)
« Last Edit: December 27, 2008, 12:31:32 am by Shadow D. Darkman »

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #259 on: December 27, 2008, 01:58:29 pm »
Robo & Frog don't even have ears...>_>

Besides, plenty of Mystics transform...I assume it's Magic. Sneff, Serge & Co. also transform (into cats!)...I don't see why Magus would be above using a transformation, maybe to fit in better with the Mystics...maybe it's just a side-effect from studying the dark arts or maybe he caught some Mystic pointy ear STD...Guess who else is fairly emotionless and kicks ass that has pointy ears: SPOCK!!

Oh, and the cool thing about Dragonball was seeing Son Goku grow up throughout the series (& then later with Gohan)...a live-action movie just won't catch the light-hearted fun of Toriyama.

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« Last Edit: December 27, 2008, 02:01:26 pm by V_Translanka »

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #260 on: December 27, 2008, 04:18:41 pm »
Hmm, might be a stupid question, but does Magus really has a name in 600 A.D.?
Yeah, you know in CT DS, those villagers in Medina call him fiendlord, which is supposed to be his title. But in JPN version, everyone calls him 'fiendlord', which means they don't use or don't know his name at all, unlike in ENG versin, he has a name as Magus plus his title.
His JPN "name" 魔王 doesn't sound like a name at all, I mean, something like "his majesty", "the boss", etc...
So maybe that's why in ENG version, they give him a serious name?

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #261 on: December 27, 2008, 05:25:12 pm »
He is still called Magus by Glenn, The Mystical Knights and the game itself. In fact, the game calls him "Fiendlord" when he does Dark Matter, and his castle (and thus the chapter title) is called "Fiendlord's Keep"

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #262 on: December 28, 2008, 01:32:31 am »
Yeah, what I mean is he is always fiendlord in JPN version unless you rename him.
That's why I say he doesn't actually have a name in 600 A.D.
That's similar to Frog, because he's a frog monster, everyone calls him frog, so at last, he accepts that as his name.

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #263 on: December 29, 2008, 01:40:18 am »
It was leak a while ago, I been told its MUCH better then it seems. Still over all a mediocre movie but the fights are well done, and the last one w/ Goku vs. Piccolo is suppose to be really good actually.

I just watched the trailer and it was about 2 straight minutes of the hardest laughing I've done in a long time.

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #264 on: December 29, 2008, 02:39:48 am »
Darn, this thread is still going on...

Yes, Magus is cool because he refused to accept his circumstances and changed them. He could have died, or become dark lord, or left the Mystics, or committed suicide. But he decided to unleash his free will and become a true "Chrono Trigger." Accepting some things is good, or unavoidable, like death. But in a world in which time travel is possible, I applaud Magus for not accepting anything and fighting, even through thirty hellish years. This is what makes his Dream Devourer identity-washing so tragic.

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #265 on: December 29, 2008, 04:54:03 am »
Quote from: Chrono Trigger Retranslation
   If history is to change, change!
   If the world is to be destroyed, be destroyed!

   If I am thus to vanish and be no more......
   That in itself will be interesting!!


   Here we go, Lavos!

Quote from: CT DS script
If history is to change, let it change!
If the world is to be destroyed, so be it!

If I must vanish from existence to see this done,
then I shall welcome that fate!

I'm coming, Lavos!

I recall CT DS has a different translation for Magus' lines in the Prophet ending, so I checked the Chrono Trigger Retranslation script.
I just wonder, why Magus says he will vanish? Does he mean if he defeat Lavos, he will be no more since he came from that era?

« Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 05:01:36 am by utunnels »

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #266 on: December 29, 2008, 04:59:15 am »
My guess is that he believes in paradoxes or being erased because he (at least he thinks) wouldn't have been sent through time.

An older, and IMO, more awkward translation.
Quote from: Translation Differences FAQ on Gamefaqs
Maou: If history is to change, let it change!
      If the world is going to die, let it die!
      If what I am about to do causes me to vanish...
      Then I will be amused!!
      Go, Lavos!!
« Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 05:02:27 am by Vehek »

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #267 on: December 29, 2008, 05:12:16 am »
Yeah, sound like that. So the idea of this game might be quite simple: if you change the past, you change the history. They just didn't consider whatwhat paradoxes...

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #268 on: December 30, 2008, 04:28:03 am »
Sounds more to me like "I'll do this if it's the last thing I do," or "I'll do this even if it kills me!" which are some well-known English idioms. Basically, he'll die for this.

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Re: Is Magus really all that cool?
« Reply #269 on: December 30, 2008, 11:38:28 am »
Sounds more to me like "I'll do this if it's the last thing I do," or "I'll do this even if it kills me!" which are some well-known English idioms. Basically, he'll die for this.

Or sort of "I'f i'm going down, I'm taking you with me"
« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 11:47:29 am by Afinho »