Dimensional split and time travel

[Shadow_Dragon]

I understand that if the dimensions had been split forever, but with similar history, there'd be no connection between the two, like normal twins, but even if the dimensions weren't split before 1010AD, there's still no technical connection between Home 1010AD and Another 1010AD

I don't think the common perception works with time bastard...
Person A exists at 1015AD in both Another and Home Worlds. Person A in Another World decides to travel back in time to 1000AD. Person A once again splits when 1010AD comes back around, so at 1014AD 2 copies of Person A exist in both Another and Home Worlds. At 1015AD one of the Person As in Another World disappears. However, 2 Person As continue to exist in Home World past 1015AD because the Time Bastard disappearance effect happens to satisfy when a person meant to time travel into the past fails to. Now 2 identically aged Person As exist, and one that's 15 years younger..


EDIT:
I think you can ignore everything I said above, because I just thought of something that contradicts almoist everything said in this thread

If someone from Another World goes back in time before 1010AD, it'll affect the events that caused the split (unless they're far enough aay that light can't travel to Opassa Beach by the time Kid comes to save Serge) and most likely cause it to not happen
soo... it'd look like this
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Thre three-branched thing is what happens in CC, the middle being the timeline in which Kid travels back in time, and everything black is in the DBT


Ok, onto the topic of the thread
Let's say there's a person called Person A before 1010AD. After 1010AD Person A in Another World will be called Person B and Person A in Home World will be called Person C; basically, the same person in Another and Home Worlds is named Person B and Person C respectively to the worlds in which he lives.
If Person B time-travels at 1015AD and Person C plans to time-travel at 1020AD both to 1005AD, Person C will be unable to do so because Person B's existance at 1005AD will negate the split.
Thus, the only way for entities from both Home and Another Worlds to time-travel is if they leave at exactly the same time. Now, as far as I'm concerned, it's impossible for two things to happen at exactly the same time unless the timelines are identical... so, my answer is that two entities can't both time-travel back in time before the split.

[ZeaLitY]

Questions raised:

1. Is the split of the dimensions retroactive?
2. Could someone prevent the dimensions from splitting?

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1. Retroactive Split

Inquiry

The dimensions split at 1010 A.D. Does this mean that if two people travelled back in time from either dimensions after 1010 A.D., there'd be two of them in a single dimension?

Answer

Probably not. It is suggested that the dimensions are now complete, separate entities. Since dimensions are self-contained universes, Home World simply has the same history as Another up to 1010 A.D., after which it diverges. The Chrono series avoids paradoxes and probably would not create a case where the dimensional split literally happens at a branch on one worldline.

Inquiry

But can someone prevent the dimensions from splitting if they traveled back in time to Another World before 1010 A.D.?

Answer

This depends on whether the split of dimensions is protected by time traveler's immunity. Since acts of time traveling are, and since the dimensions, once split, are self-contained universes that exist all on their own, it would probably be impossible to prevent the split. Home World exists parallel to Another World and apart from it; even if you prevented the action that made things split in Another World, it still happened before you traveled back in time to stop it.

[Sentenal]

1. Is the split of the dimensions retroactive?

I'm not so sure I agree fully with that, Zeality.  If we take that, then we are having a change in the future, or present, effect the past directly.  I say directly, because the future or present can effect the past indirectly, by means of Time Travelers.

If a dimensional creation entirely creates a new dimension, with a separate (but essitally the same) past, where exactly did the matter for that come from?  The new Dimension would have just been spawned.  If it literally split, it would have matter in the sense that it would just keep on flowing, or building, from the spot in the past.

I think the Flow Principle works in my favor.  Nothing is predetermine, and time flows regularly, etc etc.  Well, in order for the past of the new dimension to exist, it would have had to flow, or build up to, where it is.  But instead, your argueing that its past would just appear.

But in response to the question, possibly yes.  You see people from 2 dimensions in the same dimension in CC, but through different means.

2. Could someone prevent the dimensions from splitting?

Under my ideas from above, yes.

[SilentMartyr]

1. Is the split of the dimensions retroactive?

I'm gonna have to say yes here. You would have to assume that even if the same person went back beyond 1004 in both dimensions that they would both exist in that pretime. Technically they are not equal, since changes between the dimensions makie the person different. The only way this wouldn't work was if the energy used to create Another cannot coexist with energy from Home in pre dimensional split time.

2. Could someone prevent the dimensions from splitting?

No, the Chronoverse doesn't work like that. If an event hapens it cannot be prevented. It might be able to be fixed, but not prevented.

[ZeaLitY]

GrayLensman, does this topic's issue have an effect on Branch Armageddon theory about the Dead Sea's formation in any form?

[GrayLensman]

GrayLensman, does this topic's issue have an effect on Branch Armageddon theory about the Dead Sea's formation in any form?

Only if history was duplicated.  The Branch Armageddon theory requires that there is only one dimension in 1000 AD.  It is pure speculation one way or the other.