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Guile Clones
« on: December 05, 2007, 12:19:13 am »
Read this on some random forum...thought it was a good read.

Anyway sorry in advance about the whole Guile subject again lol.
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During the time Magus left to go search for Schala, was during the exact
incident where Janus is supposedly going to go through dimensions crossing
over. However, when this event transpires, it is at the exact same moment which
the Time Crash occurs. Janus instead who can not time hop, does get spliced
into the dimensional vortex creating a rupture which makes several unconscious
Time Doppelgangers, which are not aware of anything because those dimensions
themselves have been created. The same time Janus stepped through the portal,
all of a sudden the Radical Dreamers dimension was created off of an alternate
split reality. Janus then was lost in that space of the momeny, creating an
alternate time doppelganger in a reality never his own. Because Janus in this
instance never went through the dimensional gateway, and did not ever become
Magus later on, he stays the same.

Thereofore Janus of Zeal, who at that moment of the Time Crash, was lost into
another being. Alfador on the other hand did not travel anywhere near the
present time, he instead got lost in the chaos. The other being washed up on
the shore in 1000 AD with no memory whatsoever of his origin, a "spawn" of
another lifeform. This being quickly became a traveling magician, called Guile
by the people of Termina. He did whacky fortunes, and told funny stories while
he collected his weight as a magician to take on an even larger stake: That of
discovering the truth which was hidden from him like a black veil. He learned
the trains of a magician, however, knew no such special spells, only little
magic tricks. He met up with Serge and CO who were off to defeat Lynx, and
needed something to pass the time. He went with them, never deciding to take
off his mask because he liked his enigma qualities, and when he reached the
Frozen Flame, he stumbled back. Unaware that such a power could have existed in
him, perhaps, but never will. He exclaims in the game if you have him in the
front of the party "I am not that ...No....It's not possible....I am not
that!!!" and indeed he is correct, he is not that. Guile is a ripoff time
doppelganger of Janus, he has no correlation to Magus whatsoever. He only had
the appearance of that of Janus, not Magus, nor even knew what the Mystics
were. He was born, and bred, an idiot. After that event, he seeked to repay his
gambling debts, perhaps Sneff knew what his life was really like hmm??? Or
perhaps the mask he takes off in front of Kid which produces no reaction when
he loses his 'bet'. Guile always wished to be something he's not, something he
could never be.

-- Theory Credit of "Zelda Dude"

Also I've always wondered how Guile floats exactly like Magus when you run...

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2007, 12:42:18 am »
ZeldaDude is the equivalent of Atlantis astrology in a world ruled by science.

There's nothing suggesting this happened, nothing suggesting this is possible, and nothing remaining in the Chrono series except evidence contradicting this. It is utter fanfiction passed off by an idiot who created crappy FAQs and vanished, leaving misinformation and illogical incoherence in his wake.

Anyway, just cutting the head off this demon before it turns into one of those awful "Why Crono?" or "did Crono die when porre attacked" threads.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 12:51:28 am by ZeaLitY »

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2007, 12:54:43 am »
Preacher Spitting the Truth, and it hurts

Explain the floating! HAHA

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2007, 01:03:30 am »
He's part of the magic guild, of which Sprigg is also a member.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2007, 01:09:59 am »
Touche, but I don't ever remember seeing Sprigg glide as Mag..I mean Guile does.   ;)

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2007, 01:15:22 am »
I don't see Guile raising berries capable of turning people into cats.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 01:26:51 am »
I'd like to point out that Guile is not a 200+ year old Mystic, who are in fact a magic using species. Check, your move.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2007, 01:33:32 am »
And neither have any other Mystics been shown floating save Slash and winged creatures.

Any farther beyond this is speculation. ZeldaDude was an idiot, and his theories violate even Yuji Horii's standard of internal logic.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 01:48:53 am »
Sorry my friend but Ozzie, Slash, and Flea are all capable of Levitation same as Magus/Guile.

Link to the Video of Ozzie, Flea, and Slash using Levitation

So apart from Mystics which are a magic based race, the only characters in the whole Chrono Universe to have a Levitation ability are the Zealians. Or somebody who has had direct contact with them.

Checkmate.



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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2007, 07:49:55 am »
What a weak, weak, weak argument. Everybody from bugs to mountains can float in the Chrono world; Magus didn't trademark that ability. Razzly and the Fairies in particular float and have nothing to do with Zeal.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 09:34:35 am »
Don't they have wings though...Maybe he's talking about regular levitation without any use of an object to help you achieve it?  AKA wings..

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 09:39:44 am »
Nope, she doesn't have wings; just a cape.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 04:32:18 pm »
What a weak, weak, weak argument. Everybody from bugs to mountains can float in the Chrono world; Magus didn't trademark that ability. Razzly and the Fairies in particular float and have nothing to do with Zeal.

Ok lemme break this down... The mountains that float in CT, also known as Mountain of Woe was only capable of floating with direct influence from the Zealians. The bugs that you refer of have wings that are shown moving up and down to keep them afloat like most bugs that we have here on earth. You may have a point with Razzly but last time I played Chrono Cross I distinctly remember that the fairies had wings. Also when you use a word like fairy/pixie it usually goes hand in hand with some sort of Innate magical ability that they have since there birth. Nice try though. P.s. At school computer.

Checkmate ;)

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2007, 05:56:29 pm »
1) Stop using those stupid chess terms, it makes you look like an ass.

2) Crono can float too: Luminaire. And, of course, speaking of that there's also Serge's Luminaire. Then there's half a dozen other Techs in CC like Korcha's Headbutt & Miki's DanceOnAir that show the characters floating in mid-air.

3) Guile was originally planned on being Magus as has been stated NUMEROUS times, but then shit happened and they took it out, but they left him looking slightly like him and with that floaty deal as a little nod & wink to the gamers/fans.

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Re: Guile Clones
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2007, 06:12:09 pm »
What a weak, weak, weak argument. Everybody from bugs to mountains can float in the Chrono world; Magus didn't trademark that ability. Razzly and the Fairies in particular float and have nothing to do with Zeal.

Ok lemme break this down... The mountains that float in CT, also known as Mountain of Woe was only capable of floating with direct influence from the Zealians. The bugs that you refer of have wings that are shown moving up and down to keep them afloat like most bugs that we have here on earth. You may have a point with Razzly but last time I played Chrono Cross I distinctly remember that the fairies had wings. Also when you use a word like fairy/pixie it usually goes hand in hand with some sort of Innate magical ability that they have since there birth. Nice try though. P.s. At school computer.

Checkmate ;)

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Dude, there's no need to go into it. He was just making a point. If all of them things can float, pretty much anything has the potential to float in the Chrono world. And using it as back-up for a theory with no supporting evidence is as stupid as the theory itself. And please stop with the chess metaphors, you already lost with Zealities first post.