Huge Chrono Trigger Paradox

[Chrono'99]

When does it say that's why Kid is 'saving' Serge? Her being there is all a product of the Kid Project, headed by Belthasar...All to ultimately end in Serge freeing Schala.

Kid saves Serge from drowning when she goes back in time from 1020AD to 1010AD (and thus creating Home World by the way). I don't know when in 1020AD she's supposed to do that though, Lucca's ghost says she'll do that after the game's ending :

Of course, Kid was not to know anything about this whole plan until later, when all this will finish. Further in the future, Kid is meant to travel back ten years in time from now to save Serge from drowning.

...but she should do this "further in the future" even before Home Serge comes to do the game adventure though. If so, she shouldn't know Serge at the beginning of the game, but it seems like she knows him... Ugh, it's getting complicated, I didn't replay the game for 1 or 2 years now, so maybe I'm wrong on something?

[ZeaLitY]

All we can think is that yes, before Chrono Cross began, Kid went back in 1020 A.D. to 1010 A.D. and saved Serge. Technically, she doesn't have to do it again after Chrono Cross is complete. The Mid-Dimensions Timeline might better explain this, though I've got some weird reservation about them:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Mid-Dimension_Timelines

[Sentenal]

wait, I might have just confused myself.  This event is supposed to cause the time split, right?  Kid going back in time to save Serge.  Then, under the rules of time travel set in that article, shouldn't Another world go to the Tesseract (or where ever destroyed timelines go)?

[Akuma]

Chrono Trigger's timeline is nothing like what you are thinking of. An example of a false timeline would be the movie Back To The Future. If someone went back in time and stopped your parents from meeting you wouldn't just dissappear, you'd still exist in the timeline your in. You'd just dissappear from the timeline to wherever the person who stopped your parents from meeting went to. Anyways, Chrono Trigger from the player's perspective is how events unfold from Crono and his party's persepective. That doesn't mean it all happens chronologically.

[ZeaLitY]

wait, I might have just confused myself.  This event is supposed to cause the time split, right?  Kid going back in time to save Serge.  Then, under the rules of time travel set in that article, shouldn't Another world go to the Tesseract (or where ever destroyed timelines go)?

Yes -- and no. For some reason, this case is unique, and results in the splitting of a dimension. The reason is unknown; my guess is that Belthasar engineered it somehow.

[Sentenal]

Chrono Trigger's timeline is nothing like what you are thinking of. An example of a false timeline would be the movie Back To The Future. If someone went back in time and stopped your parents from meeting you wouldn't just dissappear, you'd still exist in the timeline your in. You'd just dissappear from the timeline to wherever the person who stopped your parents from meeting went to. Anyways, Chrono Trigger from the player's perspective is how events unfold from Crono and his party's persepective. That doesn't mean it all happens chronologically.

i'm not talking about time travelers immunity.  its like this:  your in futureA, and go back in time to pastA.  You change pastA, resulting in futureA going to the DBT, because it no longer exist, and futureB being created in its stead.  the time traveler is the only one of futureA not affected by that.

and i guess this is a special case somehow, but it weird, and I dont like it.

[ZeaLitY]

Isn't that time traveler's immunity? The guy is from future A, and his future is gone. However, he's unchanged.

[Sentenal]

yea, i guess i felt like over explaining it

[Lordchander]

yes, but dont the past, present and future exist all at once? That could explain a lot of things in CT and CC.

[V_Translanka]

I...don't think so...Or at least, there's no real way we could determine something like that since, in essence, we're always subject to the PAST in Chrono Trigger. Any future would be sometime right after the Entity died...Which we never witness...Since we only see the "flashback" timelines.

[DarkGizmo]

yes, but dont the past, present and future exist all at once? That could explain a lot of things in CT and CC.

That's all about perspective, since time flow equally everywhere if you got to 600 AD for 15 min and come back to 1000AD it will be 1000 AD + 15 min, but if there were no gate you wouldn't have anything like it.

[Lordchander]

hmmm...good point...I dont know where I heard that statement...it kinda sounds logical  and, as i said before, could explain a lot of things in CT and CC.

Hang on though, as well as having the past, present and future happening at the same time, what about other dimensions! I never truly believed that when Lavos was defeated, the original timeline past 1999 AD was thrown away into the tesseract, but still accesible (if u had some form of transport like an epoch that could cross dimensions).

[DarkGizmo]

That would be funny and sad since some people will live in dome because of crono's action and other will die of hunger...

Maybe there could be some way to accesse teressact, like how the planet could drag back dinopolis, we never know...

[Lordchander]

now isnt the tesseract the same place as the darkness beyond time in CC?
I always thought it was

[DarkGizmo]

now isnt the tesseract the same place as the darkness beyond time in CC?
I always thought it was

it is...

it's just sound mor efun teressact then Darkness Beyond Time, because someone who doesn't know the game would now be lost ...more