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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3840 on: September 03, 2009, 07:56:24 pm »
My understanding of the story, FW, was that there was a part of the speech that had kids writing a letter to themselves about how they could help Obama.

Ah, here it is:

Department of Education deletes line about schoolkids helping Obama from speech prep materials

Now, I'd like all lefty's to please abstain from foaming at the mouth over what some of the Republicans are quoted as saying on the matter. The author uses the word "inartfully" when describing the first rendition of the memo, so apparently misreading the intention wasn't merely the paranoia of the right-wing.

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3841 on: September 03, 2009, 08:36:59 pm »
Speaking of Obama's back to school address, apparently some Texan parents are extremely against it. I was on the way to school so I didn't get a chance to hear the story, but my guess is they're afraid that he's trying to influence these children politically. I don't really understand the hubbub. I mean, these are kids being told to stay motivated, stay in school, and strive for their goals. What's the problem?

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3842 on: September 03, 2009, 11:09:19 pm »
The word "infarction." It may very well be one of the ugliest sounding word in all of the Indo-European language group.

I have to hear that word all the time, thanks to me being in the medical field.



Also, I'm frustrated with old, incontinent people. I had to give a breathing treatment to a man today that had pooped himself... it was sad, but at the same time, it was frustrating... and nauseating.

I'm also frustrated with medical charting. It's such a tedious process.

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3843 on: September 04, 2009, 01:15:36 am »
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My understanding of the story, FW, was that there was a part of the speech that had kids writing a letter to themselves about how they could help Obama.
I'm sort of glad they took that out due to the fact that the kids would probably just see it as busywork -- and it's too bad they replaced it with another busywork assignment. Kids look up to the people who get them out of work, hehehehe.

Lakon, thanks for your service. When I'm pooping myself and having trouble breathing 70 years from now, I sure hope there'll be a medical person around to help me out. Though, the job should probably be given to robots. Don't they have geriatric robot assistants in Japan now?

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3844 on: September 04, 2009, 02:00:10 am »
Oh, you just know they'll end up going insane & killing all the old people. It's what I'd do.

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3845 on: September 04, 2009, 02:53:30 am »
Wasn't there an SNL skit about robot attack insurance?

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3846 on: September 04, 2009, 03:58:07 am »
At least we say "heart attack" in English, mostly. In other languages, such as Russian, they say "infart" to mean "heart attack". I always tried hard not to giggle when my grandma would get bitchy and say "You are going to give me an 'infart!'"

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3847 on: September 04, 2009, 04:49:51 am »
I don't know how you manage in that situation.  I'd laugh out loud.  (I did laugh out loud!)

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3848 on: September 04, 2009, 06:13:40 am »
People with humanity are horrified by certain things. The Allied army were horrified to find emaciated Jews in Nazi camps. Emissaries to China were horrified to find a practice such as footbinding. Upton Sinclair was horrified at the working conditions he found in meat plants and the lives of immigrants. Many were horrified at the conditions of the poor parts of London during the Victorian Age. And so on, and so on...

Well, now that I'm beginning to read and study feminism at large, I am absolutely horrified at how under the radar the oppression of women and the sad state of women's rights are. It just doesn't make sense to me. How is the oppression of half the human race so underrepresented and even underacknowledged? How can things so evil as rape, patriarchy, inequality, violence, and other egregious deeds manifest such little outrage or presence in this world?

I really fucking want to know. I didn't even fucking hear about women's rights in the last presidential election. Just, what in the fuck? How is this not impossibly bigger? I am horrified.

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And something else. There's apparently some spiritual belief out there called the "Law of Attraction" that deems if you think of something and wish for it, and keep positive thoughts that thing will come to you.

That's "wishful thinking". And it's useless.

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3849 on: September 04, 2009, 09:18:11 am »
Nothing wrong with adding a little spiritual aid to your driving ambition.

As for the sad state of feminism, its mostly a PR problem, accentuated by the fact that there is no clear coherent message or leader. The KKK suddenly found form and support when David Duke started handling PR. Obviously, that was bad, but it shows that a movement needs a leader that 1) the public can understand, 2) the public can relate to, 3) a message they can accept.

Before coming here, my main reaction to someone complaining about the "patriarchy" was rolling my eyes, and tuning them out. Same with most people, at least doubly so in the media. The current women's rights movement is portrayed as a bunch of gangly shrews and man haters. I mentioned a study earlier in the F-Sexism thread where only about 26% of women will identify themselves as feminists, because of the radical stigma attached. Your best bet to improve that status is when speaking about feminism, speak about feminism and do not use it as an opportunity to take potshots at religion or Republicans. Both parties can be your most valuable allies in the struggle if you don't piss them off by going off the handle.

BTW, since about 83% of Americans are Christians, and about 35% are conservatives, you're going to have to appeal to them in some degree if you want any measures passed in the near future. You can be right about everything until you're blue in the face, but unless you can convince an already paranoid populace that your ideals are right and your methods are the best, without threatening their existence, you will end up like Ralph Nader, who's been spinning his wheels since the 1960's.

PS. It wasn't the bra-burners of the 1960's that got things done; it was the mature women they grew into in the 1970's  that managed to get the women's rights agenda on the table for the first time since the 1920's.

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3850 on: September 04, 2009, 02:19:28 pm »
I don't know if I can truly support feminism until they fight for the right to be drafted. There is no true equality because the sexes just aren't equal. Equal rights, I understand, but there limits on everyone because everyone has technical and physical limits. So I guess I just don't like when equality tries to state sameness. Not saying I don't agree with the points ZeaLitY made, but those are just the parts I don't like or something...*shrugs*

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3851 on: September 04, 2009, 02:21:18 pm »
I'm paid tomorrow and there are a few things I'd like to buy, namely:

*Doctor Who series 3
*Torchwood series 3
*iPod Nano
*Metroid Prime Trilogy

DW series 3 I'm not terribly excited to buy, so that can wait. Torchwood series 3 I've been delaying for a while...

Metroid Prime Trilogy I'm really unsure of - I own Prime 2 on the GC (although never finished it) and 3 for the Wii (hardly played it) and hardly played 1 for the GC either. That said it'd be neat to own 1 and be able to play 2 with Wii controls (plus it'd give me incentive to finish it).

I kinda really want a Nano, but that'd be all my money gone for a fortnight...

:?

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3852 on: September 04, 2009, 02:24:07 pm »
Support the Metroid series so that maybe they'll put out an Original Trilogy collection of some kind! Remake Return of Samus & Super Metroid already, dammit, Ninny! If they do, they could throw in Fusion (Zero Mission representing the 1st) too...

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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3853 on: September 04, 2009, 06:33:58 pm »
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I don't know if I can truly support feminism until they fight for the right to be drafted.
To balance currently existing patriarchy and the lack of self control it tries to inculcate within men, I would certainly support all armies being composed entirely of women. If women were running all aspects of the wars in the Congo, there wouldn't be half as much rape going on there. Maybe close to none at all, especially since it's the women who would have the guns, and therefore power of physical coercion, in that case.


I have to agree with Truthordeal that one of the main difficulties the feminist movement has is lack of coordination and clear leadership. There are some general goals, but so many factions that part of their energy and initiative is squandered on infighting. From what I understand, lesbians apparently had a huge problem with the mainstream Second Wave feminist movement, and Third Wave feminism is, well, Third Wave Feminism, hahaha. You've got the people who want to burn hijab vs. the people who want to secure a woman's right to wear traditional cultural clothing if they embrace it; the women who are absolutely for pornography vs. those who are absolutely against; those who want men involved in the feminist movement and those who want membership to be exclusive to women; etc, etc. And I think they all make valid observations.

But besides leadership and solidity, the most important tool feminism could possibly employ are pop cultural impressions. I might not have felt as comfortable exploring feminism had it not been for Chun Li and the movie Aliens.
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Re: The $%*! frustration thread
« Reply #3854 on: September 04, 2009, 06:47:23 pm »
Should this conversation be moved back to the "fuck sexism" thread?  I want to pick up here, but I feel that what everyone is saying here would serve that thread much better than the frustration thread, just to better coordinate the sentiment if nothing else.