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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #105 on: December 17, 2011, 08:07:25 pm »
Indeed, it's the sort of thing that's easy to miss. You'd assume that your attacks only do magic damage after learning magic, but not so.



a possible replacement for http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/File:Slash.png.html

it's jpg, which you might not want. but the colors aren't so washed out and its a bit larger.

also, my first post (after nangbaby) hasn't been touched. my Mystical Knights theory is controversial, but the other 2 entries (about spekkio and zeal equipment) are straightforward.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Manoria_Cathedral.html
Areas Played: Cathedral, Ocean Palace, Sun Keep, Sun Palace

this hymn is heard in Denadoro Mountains, in the cave where you meet masa & mune.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Underground_Sewer.html
Areas Played: Dimensional Vortex (Nameless Caves), Ozzie's Fort, Sewer Access

also heard in Denadoro Mountains (with water).
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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2011, 03:58:20 pm »
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dalton_(Monster).html

Dalton Plus uses Iron Orb in the SNES version too, typically in response to magic he can't counter (lightning, status-inflicting, non-elemental) and physical attacks.

He counters spells by casting the opposite. Interestingly, lightning 2 is the opposite of a shadow attack. I believe fire 2 and ice 2 should also have "counter:" in front.
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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2012, 10:47:39 pm »
http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Arena_of_the_Ages.html

Changed Uranian Armor to Uranian Mirror.
I wonder if the same article on gamefaqs an be informed too, but that's not my business I guess.

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #108 on: September 25, 2012, 08:50:47 am »
I've recently figured out the Mystical Knights essential elements are as follows:

Ozzie - Lightning
Flea - Fire
Slash - Water/Ice

maybe this could be added to their bios. They should definitely be listed as Innates in the four elements page - http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/The_Four_Elements.html

here's my rationale:

Ozzie casts lightning on Zenan Bridge, Slash cancels Water in the first battle, and Flea casts fire magic in Ozzie's Fort.

In the final 3 on 3 battle with them, they use Delta Force, which means that each one has one of the three elements. Slash clearly casts the Ice part of the spell. Ozzie and Flea casts seem to be reversed, but that probably has to do with the fixed animation of the spell and wanting Ozzie to fire off first.

In Chrono Cross, Flea is red innate, Ozzie is green and Slash is blue. So it fits.

BTW, in the Viper Manor entry, it should be said that "Death Volcano" is the music played in the sewers.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2012, 03:12:07 pm by chapapote »

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #109 on: November 24, 2013, 04:34:58 pm »
Earlier, this year, I started updating the encyclopedia with something I've known for at least a few years. Namely, that the dummy location names Woolsey translated as "Breakwave Pt" and "Eternal Repose" were 1000 A.D. inn names in the pre-release. (Choras and Medina, respectively.)
I decided to use the currently existing pages, after reasoning that the only reason "Singing Mountain" is separate from "Chanting Mt." is because the unused name is not the iconic, recognized name. I linked the locations in the pre-release's location article, but didn't go any further.
Now, what to do with the Chrono Trigger section for those articles? What's in there is speculation about the names were for, while I know for sure how they were used.
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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2014, 11:52:41 pm »
Some of the kana readings in a few pages are terribly wrong...
Leaper is an example. I know it's a largely trivial thing, but 「エイシトサウルス」 can not in any way be read "Aycit Snix." Instead it should read Eishitosaurus, or Aicitsaurus depending on your pronunciation preference. But the point is that it is definitely -saurus, not 'snix.'

Rust Tyrano is similarly attributed:
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Japanese: ルストティラノ
Translation: Rust Tyrano (can phonetically be "last" Tyrano, but the spelling doesn't suggest this)

「ルスト」 is pronounced roosto or loosto (long U sound) meaning it is more likely Roost Tyrano than Last Tyrano.
"Last," and "Rust," in katakana DO however have the same spelling: 「ラスト」

My guess is that a lot of the Japanese represented needs some TLC.

Apologies if this has been brought up before...

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #111 on: January 17, 2014, 12:39:43 am »
It's not the kana's that's wrong, what wrong is the Japanese text used on the page. 「エイシトサウルス」 is actually the Japanese name of the Gigasaur
Leaper's 「エイシトニクス」. (The retranslation calls it "Aycit Nix".)
Though some things may need updating. kWhazit's current interpretation on his site has "Ancient" instead of "Aycit".
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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #112 on: January 17, 2014, 01:28:02 am »
Some of the kana readings in a few pages are terribly wrong...
Leaper is an example. I know it's a largely trivial thing, but 「エイシトサウルス」 can not in any way be read "Aycit Snix." Instead it should read Eishitosaurus, or Aicitsaurus depending on your pronunciation preference. But the point is that it is definitely -saurus, not 'snix.'

Rust Tyrano is similarly attributed:
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Japanese: ルストティラノ
Translation: Rust Tyrano (can phonetically be "last" Tyrano, but the spelling doesn't suggest this)

「ルスト」 is pronounced roosto or loosto (long U sound) meaning it is more likely Roost Tyrano than Last Tyrano.
"Last," and "Rust," in katakana DO however have the same spelling: 「ラスト」

My guess is that a lot of the Japanese represented needs some TLC.

Apologies if this has been brought up before...

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #113 on: January 17, 2014, 03:12:39 pm »
Well, alright.
I'm looking through now.

I see what may be a problem here but I can't tell.
Amphibite and Croaker are both labeled the same for their DS name and Jp names

The Jp translation is correct for the word, but I find it odd that two generic enemies would have the same name.

Can anyone confirm this?

EDIT:
Black Tyrano's listing is attributed to Azala.
This could be accurate, but I don't know the original name of Black Tyrano is.

EDIT2:
Well aside from the aforementioned uncertainties, I've finished looking through the Monster listings for Chrono Trigger. I fixed a few typos and misreadings.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2014, 05:22:53 pm by Satoh »

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #114 on: January 17, 2014, 05:18:19 pm »
Why are you redoing this on your own rather than consulting sources such as the retranslation first? On the Rubble page, you went and replaced a translation that was completely in line with the retranslation.

Also, according to dictionaries, 「ルスト」 actually does mean "rust", but its only entries on the Japanese Wikipedia are for people/places from Germany and Austria. So it must reflect the German pronunciation rather than the English pronunciation of "rust".

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #115 on: January 17, 2014, 05:29:34 pm »
Well much to my embarrassment, I forgot there was a resource.

Most of my changes were typos like missing L's or ]'s.
Perhaps I should go through and undo the changes?

EDIT:
Alright. As far as I can tell I've removed all vital changes. I'm not touching it again for a while.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2014, 05:43:04 pm by Satoh »

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #116 on: January 17, 2014, 07:49:15 pm »
Well much to my embarrassment, I forgot there was a resource.

Most of my changes were typos like missing L's or ]'s.
Perhaps I should go through and undo the changes?

EDIT:
Alright. As far as I can tell I've removed all vital changes. I'm not touching it again for a while.

It should be easy to undo changes in the Wiki. Just revert to the previous version.

Obviously we need some sort of citation standard to ensure the internal referential integrity of our Encyclopedia materials is maintained with all our other resources.

I plan on adding more Encyclopedia users, so I may need to promote some of the existing editors to administrators on the wiki.

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #117 on: January 17, 2014, 07:53:11 pm »
Also, I encourage editors to note the reasoning for their changes in the Talk pages when applicable. This way if someone wants to revert your changes, there can be discussion about it.

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Re: Encyclopedia needs Editing
« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2014, 04:39:23 pm »
Not sure what I can do, but I'm willing to help with the Wiki.

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« Reply #119 on: January 18, 2014, 04:50:22 pm »
Not sure what I can do, but I'm willing to help with the Wiki.

Thanks for volunteering.