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PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« on: April 15, 2007, 08:39:12 pm »
http://z14.invisionfree.com/ChronoCrisis/index.php?showtopic=955&st=0  -  Apparently, people have pictures showing that the shadow could be Magus...It actually really does look like him to...o_O
« Last Edit: April 15, 2007, 08:48:34 pm by justin3009 »

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 09:25:48 pm »
Magus doesn't wield a sword, and the pointy ears can't be proven. All we know is that this person has long hair and a cape, and that the Acacia Dragoons were supposedly active during this period in Keystone T-2.

Yeah, pretty brief answer, but Ye Grande Olde Idiot brought this up in 2003, so we've had a while to think about it...

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 06:15:08 pm »
BS. We all know Shadow is Clyde Arrowny.


:lol: j/k.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 08:44:09 pm »
Next thing that'll probably happen.  ZOMG THE SHADOW = SCHALA'S DAUGHTERS TWIN SISTERS BROTHER.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2007, 05:56:00 pm »
I think it's Dalton. The gloves match, he has long hair, a cape, and the motive for revenge on Guardia.

The shadow is Dalton. This is my belief and I will stick to it until a new Chrono game comes out and explains it.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2007, 06:00:24 pm »
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Why can't this shadow just be some Porrean soldier? Why does it have to be Dalton or Magus or some other character? Is there anything pointing to it being a character we know beyond a few little trace pieces judged from the shadow itself?

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2007, 06:07:17 pm »
The hair looks exactly like Magus's hair...And who says that he can't use a sword?  He's not stricly "forbidden" to one weapon.  This is my belief.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 06:15:47 pm »
The hair looks exactly like Magus's hair...And who says that he can't use a sword?  He's not stricly "forbidden" to one weapon.  This is my belief.
Where does the shadow even really appear to HAVE hair?! I've never seen the shadow itself in enough detail to make out anything in that clip, let alone whether it might have Magus style hair or not.

Besides...Lucca refers to Magus as Janus in her letter, and I can't see how anything could make Lucca accept Janus if he led the attack against Guardia. Further, there is no reason for him to do so. Dalton at least has the one possible reason of garnering power, but Magus doesn't even have that!

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 07:02:21 pm »
Cape and long hair could describe a lot of people, even before bringing in the possibility it is some unknown/new individual, or someone from a different time, etc.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 09:58:31 pm »
If I remember correctly, no many Chrono characters wear a cape. In Chrono Trigger, usual soldiers have armours and in Chrono Cross, Porre soldiers fight with guns.

I think it's Dalton. The gloves match, he has long hair, a cape, and the motive for revenge on Guardia.

The shadow is Dalton. This is my belief and I will stick to it until a new Chrono game comes out and explains it.
My thoughts exactly.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 10:08:31 pm »
If I remember correctly, no many Chrono characters wear a cape. In Chrono Trigger, usual soldiers have armours and in Chrono Cross, Porre soldiers fight with guns.

I think it's Dalton. The gloves match, he has long hair, a cape, and the motive for revenge on Guardia.

The shadow is Dalton. This is my belief and I will stick to it until a new Chrono game comes out and explains it.
My thoughts exactly.

There's still a lot of people in the chrono world the player doesn't know. Or someone could have a wardrobe change, it's pretty open ended. Just because there is a cape and long hair doesn't have to make it Dalton or Magus. And then if you think it's Dalton, and he is trying to get revenge on Guardia, you have to think of the sequence of events. He would arrive in the 1000AD time period (1005 at that point). He would have to do this, possibly align with Porre. Chrono and company would be pretty quick to notice that I think. This is also five years after 1000 AD, what would Dalton be doing in the time between 1000 AD and the fall of Guardia?

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 10:14:00 pm »
Frankly, I have to admit a great deal of doubt about Porre's acceptance of Dalton were that truly the case. Dalton might be able to show off some fancy magic but the Porreans are obviously not idiots--especially not if they can invent Grobyc. They would not be willing to trust him.

Furthermore, I hesitate to see how he would know about Guardia in the first place. I doubt he had any idea Crono's friends were time travelers, and there's nothing to suggest his portal that teleports Golems is temporal in nature. In fact, it is far more likely he was transported to some rock somewhere he stored the Golems or even to where Zeal once floated. Either way, the odds of his appearence in the Present are quite low, at best.

No, Dalton nor Magus nor anyone else we know is at fault. Porre must have become more militaristic thanks to something else...I'd suggest the Black Omen except that canonically speaking it never survived beyond 12,000 B.C., so...it's just unexplained....we'll have to wait till Kato decides to inform the Chrono community across the world.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 10:31:48 pm »
I think the shadow is Dalton, but what I'm sure is that Dalton is not smart enough to submit Porre for his wish of revenge against Crono team. And Kyronea is right, Dalton doesn't even know Crono's origins.
That's why I think Dalton wasn't alone and that there was someone else who guided Dalton in Guardia for his own interest. I don't know who could be Dalton's manipulator and what could be his purpose though.
Dalton's shadow itself is already pure speculation.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 10:41:42 pm »
I wouldn't say Dalton isn't smart enough. Dalton is obviously not stupid...he's simply so arrogant he often underestimates his foes out of sheer ego.

I simply don't see why the Porreans would listen to him. Magus barely managed to gain the trust of Queen Zeal, and that was only through his knowledge of events via the fact he lived through them before. Dalton does not have that advantage, nor is he anywhere near as powerful magically as Magus...we see this with his easy defeat both times you actually face against Dalton himself. Quite honestly, I think the Porreans would, at most, see him as a nuisence.

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Re: PSX Anime Ending! Shadow = Magus?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2007, 11:28:25 pm »
How did we even come up with it being Dalton?  In the first place, if he was there, he probably would have been killed by Porre.  The hair also did NOT look like Dalton's at all.  Dalton's is alot wider, while this ones was skinnier, and it seemed like Magus's but who knows.  I just can't see Dalton being the on there, it just doesn't make sense!  I highly doubt he'd be THAT smart to go back there and kill Crono and Crew.  Plus, wasn't he sent somewhere randomly when he flew into the Golem teleportation thing?  I don't think he could get out  :?