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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1635 on: September 29, 2009, 02:18:46 am »
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We spent the better part of an hour at lunch today talking about whether Magus is a Byronic hero or an anti-hero.
That...is probably the most awesome conversation anyone could have over lunch. Period.
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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1636 on: September 29, 2009, 05:31:46 am »
No lie.  I just realized how badly I want to know if there was an outcome to that conversation.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1637 on: September 29, 2009, 10:48:37 am »
Neil Patrick Harris. Like bacon, he makes everything better.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1638 on: September 29, 2009, 02:31:14 pm »
Thought, is he the one who plays Dr. Horrible?

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1639 on: September 29, 2009, 02:42:52 pm »
Yup. He's also on How I Met Your Mother, and he was Doogie Howser. He hosted the Emmy's too.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1640 on: September 29, 2009, 02:48:08 pm »
DOOGIE HOWSER! I thought he looked a bit like him, but I couldn't be sure for some reason. I'll be damned.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1641 on: September 29, 2009, 02:55:18 pm »
No lie.  I just realized how badly I want to know if there was an outcome to that conversation.

Byronic hero fo' sho'.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byronic_hero

I am a literature geek and a Chrono geek and I love it.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1642 on: September 29, 2009, 03:09:26 pm »
"Mad, bad, and dangerous to know."

Sounds like our Magus all right.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1643 on: September 29, 2009, 05:03:12 pm »
I would disagree. Magus is after Lavos for revenge, whereas Crono & Co. are after Lavos to save the world from injustice and terrible calamity. The quest Magus is on is completely different and far less worthy than the one the others are on. He may indeed fit with the description of a Byronic hero, but that doesn't make him not an antihero, because the difference between heroes and antiheroes depends very much on our conception of what a "hero" actually is, and in Chrono Trigger the concept is pretty typical moral fare. With that in mind: Antiheroes manage to advance heroic ends, without being heroes themselves. By having a grudge against Lavos and cooperating with Crono & Co., Magus was doing the right thing for the wrong reason. That's classic antihero behavior.
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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1644 on: September 29, 2009, 06:18:13 pm »
Hmm.  Those are good points.  But I'm not sure if the "right thing for the wrong reasons" is necessarily only anti-hero behaviour.  I mean...Byron's Manfred is trying to seek absolution for his sins (he slept with his sister, who then killed herself), but admits that if his sister was brought back to life he'd have sex with her all over again.

I suppose another reason I'd think of Magus as more Byronic than an anti-hero would be because I tend to see Magus being driven by guilt (for not saving Schala) along with revenge, which is characteristic of a Byronic hero.  Or that has been my understanding of one of the aspects of a Byronic hero.

The lines between "Byronic hero" and "anti-hero" seem to be confusing and overlapping.  I've heard Batman being described as both many times.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1645 on: September 29, 2009, 09:56:50 pm »
This badass mother fucker just got his arcade machine internet worthy, no more using the library computers! :franky

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1646 on: September 29, 2009, 10:14:51 pm »
Kebrel is Blue and Mighty Fine.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1647 on: September 29, 2009, 10:40:00 pm »
I love the song "Me and Julio Down By The Schoolyard" by Paul Simon.

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1648 on: September 29, 2009, 10:45:02 pm »
I love how cold it's becoming.  Fall is here!  :)

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Re: Stuff you LOVE, baby
« Reply #1649 on: September 29, 2009, 11:16:08 pm »
I love Steam.

And I love buying things from Valve in general. Why buy on PC you ask? When I started my computer this afternoon, Steam was all like, "I'm downloading something for Left4Dead for you!" I was all like, "Oh really? What's that?" It said, "The new DLC campaign!" I then replied, "Don't I have to pay for that!?" Steam just shook his head no and gave me a big hug.

I love Steam.