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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2007, 10:14:57 am »
Comment after both battles? As in have the PCs shout at him or talk to themselves about him? I'm a bit confused as to what you mean.

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2007, 10:19:10 am »
Ok...

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{Tata}: Aaaah! HELP!{full break}

*Tata runs by* FIRST BATTLE

{Tata}: Th-this place is full of Mystics! Y-you'd best get{line break}
out of here while you can!{full break}

*Tata runs off to the world map* SECOND BATTLE

{Marle}: THAT was Tata...?
{Lucca}: Was that Tata?{full break}
{Robo}: That must have been Tata.{full break}

{Marle}: But he's just a kid!{full break}
{Lucca}: It can't be...he's just a little kid!{full break}
{Robo}: He appeared too young to be a Hero.{full break}

{Marle}: So if he's not the Hero...who is?{full break}
{Lucca}: So who's the Hero then?{full break}
{Robo}: If Tata is not the Hero, who is?{full break}

({delay 03})
{Marle}: The Hero's gotta be up at the top of the mountains{line break}
getting the Masamune! Let's go see!{full break}
{Lucca}: Whoever he is, he's probably getting the Masamune{line break}
right now. We should go check it out.{full break}
{Robo}: In all likelihood, the Hero is attempting to retrieve{line break}
the Masamune at this moment. Let us go to the summit to see.{full break}

So I guess I mean, just have them say their stuff after the second battle.

Oh, another thing. When you are getting the Jerky
(which says 'received Jerky rations' instead of 'got 1 Jerky')
you have to talk to the the king, (maybe some guard will appear in front of the kitchen, and he'll make you speak with the king first)


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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2007, 10:23:34 am »
Oh, and here I thought you wanted them to speak after both the first AND the second battle, but I already have it set up to do what you want anyway.

As for speaking to the King...eh, that sounds fine to me. His injuries are an important, if minor, plot point.

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2007, 10:43:47 am »
Okay, I've added a small bit to the after Zombor battle scene. Does it meet with your approval?

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*Knight Captain and Knights all wanders over*

{Knight Captain}: Sir {Crono}, are you alright?

*PCs are doing their tired animation*
{Marle}: Yeah...we're okay.{full break}
{Lucca}: We're fine...luckily...{full break}
{Robo}: We are alright.{full break}

{Knight Captain}: Thank God...that was an incredible battle.{line break}
You ripped through the Maougun as if they were nothing...{line break}
and you used magic too...amazing! Sir {Crono}, again{line break}
we thank you.{full break}

(3rd PC)
{Marle}: Sure...not a problem.{full break}
{Lucca}: Anytime!{full break}
{Robo}: We were glad to help.{full break}

{Knights}: Thank you!{full break}

*Knight Captain and Knights head back across the bridge*

({delay 03})
{Marle}: So now what?{full break}
{Lucca}: What do we do now?{full break}
{Robo}: What should be our next course of action?{full break}

{Marle}: We gotta find the Hero!{full break}
{Lucca}: We need to find that Hero guy so he can help us with Magus.{full break}
{Robo}: We must locate the Hero.{full break}

{Marle}: Right! Let's check out that town just to the south, {Crono}!{full break}
{Lucca}: Let's go search that town over there for him, then.{full break}
{Robo}: I suggest we search the nearby town for his location.{full break}

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2007, 10:50:22 am »
Oh, and here I thought you wanted them to speak after both the first AND the second battle, but I already have it set up to do what you want anyway.
Ok, cool. Wasn't sure the exact point you wanted me to put the dialouge.

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As for speaking to the King...eh, that sounds fine to me. His injuries are an important, if minor, plot point.

Yeah, especially if the party is going to mention that aspect to Frog later on.


As for the Zenan Bridge scene... perfect! The only thing I would add a little more would be the Knight conversation before they go back to the castle.

(Instead of a party member saying what to do next, have the Knight Captain do so?)

{Knights}: Thank you!{full break}
We are eternally in your dept.
What do you plan to do now?

{Marle}: We gotta find the Hero!{full break}
{Lucca}: We need to find that Hero guy so he can help us with Magus.{full break}
{Robo}: We must locate the Hero.{full break}

{Knight Captain}:
You are going to confront Magus!?{delay 03}
...well, you do posses Magic.... so you
should be more than alright.

The Hero, traveled South towards the village of
Sandorino. You may find him there.

(my brain can't fill in the blanks... *Aaack!*)

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2007, 10:58:02 am »
Ahah...yes, that's a good idea. It helps avoid the constant redundancy I've noticed creeping into my script a bit here and there when it comes to discussing what to do next. Lemme refine that a bit here:

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{Knights}: Thank you all! We are eternally in your debt!{full break}

{Knight Captain}: So what do you intend to do now, sir {Crono}?{full break}

{Marle}: We gotta find the Hero!{full break}
{Lucca}: We need to find that Hero guy so he can help us with Magus.{full break}
{Robo}: We must locate the Hero.{full break}

{Knight Captain}: You wish to confront Magus?!{delay 03}...you have{line break}
 more courage than I had ever imagined...and with your magic{line break}
you just might succeed.{page break}
The Hero traveled south towards the village of San Dorino. You may{line break}
find him there.{full break}

{Marle}: Thanks!{full break}
{Lucca}: Thanks a lot!{full break}
{Robo}: Thank you for the information.{full break}

{Knight Captain}: Of course. Godspeed, brave warriors. Godspeed.{full break}

How's that?

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2007, 11:03:53 am »
*With the Chancellor's stupid grin* Perfect!

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2007, 11:11:50 am »
Great. I'm going to start tossing these edited scenes into the main storyline dialogue thread...we keep forgetting to do that, and this way it's not anywhere near as diffuclt to track down these edits to the main script.

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2007, 11:23:30 am »
Also...and I don't know why I didn't ask this before...when it comes to the flow of the storyline dialogue, it'll go up to Gaspar's mentioning of the various sidequests, and then I intend to skip to the Black Omen. Since the Black Omen is required for New Game+ I'm considering it essential to the storyline. That okay with you?

Also, I'd like to change the title of "The Final Battle" to "At the End of the Planet's Dream" as it is the retranslation, as not only is this much closer to the original, it fits with our reworking the of script to include the Planet theory of the Entity perfectly. Plus it goes along with Chrono Cross's final savegame title anyway, and any links to Cross are good ones.

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2007, 11:34:19 am »
Sounds great. I'll keep adding tweaking stuff. I hope to have Magus's Castle complete by this weekend so I can release another test. (I'll retweak the monsters as well as add a hidden treasure chest in the Millennial Fair that will have a Rainbow sword or something in it)

Black Omen is definitely essential to the storyline (but do it last -- just before Lavos stuff I would suggest).

"At the End of the Planet's Dream" works (I can't see if it fits for the moment because all my saves are nowhere near that point, but I am pretty sure it'll fit.)

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2007, 11:38:02 am »
I hope it does, because when I tried using Temporal Flux to add in the new name for the "The New King" chapter the text exploded over two of the save files in the actual game, but that was probably thanks to my utter incompetence when it comes to using utilities like Temporal Flux.

How about you place the treasures behind the grandstand where the Prehistoric Band is? Just have a few there with the ultimate weapons of each character and maybe a few with Prism Dresses and Moon Armors or something. That ought to be more than good enough to wipe out anything up to at least Azala even with really low levels.

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2007, 11:45:09 am »
I hope it does, because when I tried using Temporal Flux to add in the new name for the "The New King" chapter the text exploded over two of the save files in the actual game, but that was probably thanks to my utter incompetence when it comes to using utilities like Temporal Flux.
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I am sure it will, though as you said before, I would like to reduce the size of the font slightly, so we could have ALOT more text in one window.

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How about you place the treasures behind the grandstand where the Prehistoric Band is? Just have a few there with the ultimate weapons of each character and maybe a few with Prism Dresses and Moon Armors or something. That ought to be more than good enough to wipe out anything up to at least Azala even with really low levels.

 :shock: That's where I was thinking of putting it too. "It's like you know the future. How eerie."  :)

Crap. I have to go to work  :x
I'll be back on later tonight. Prolly around 9 or 10 central.

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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2007, 05:47:09 pm »
I've uploaded "The Egg of Time!" now. Next up is "The Fated Hour!" which shouldn't take too long, then after that...after that I finally get to see if I can write some Lavos dialogue...

EDIT: "The Fated Hour!" is now uploaded. Hoo boy...to think only one chapter remains till I'm done with all of the storyline dialogue. It took about a month or so...not anywhere near as long as I might have once imagined, huh?

EDIT II: So..."At the End of the Planet's Dream!" has been uploaded. I want you to overlook this heavily, Zakyrus. The Lavos dialogue needs to be perfect, so if there's anything wrong with it, let me know immediately. Also, note that in all three scenes preceding/proceeding the three Lavos fights, all seven PCs are present. This is noted individually in the script itself but I thought it bore repeating.

Finally, we're going to need a different scene to use New Game +/various points in the storyline to use where one would not have all party members present for the final battle. The scene here--apart from the Magus lines, which can be taken out without detriment--is suitable for all times after "Forward to the Past!" but before then it doesn't work as well, because the player won't have all party members. As such I am going to write a scene intended for use the normal way via the PCs you have in your party rather than all PCs for use for all points in the story before "Forward to the Past!" After this chapter, the current scene is intended to be used, with a Magus exception for the periods before he is not in your party/if you kill him. Does that work? (I'll probably stick the scene in the sidequests dialogue if it does, so it doesn't clutter up the storyline dialogue.)
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Re: Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread
« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2007, 03:10:13 pm »
I'll edit this post when I read these scripts....

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« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2007, 03:42:19 pm »
This is all I would change. Just a few words here and there really, let me know what you think.
I can't wait to see if all this fits in the game.

{Queen Zeal}: The Black Omen flows above all timelines,{line break}
awaiting the day the almighty Lavos will awken!{page break}
Your destiny led you here, and here you will remain for{line break}
eternity, unless you can defeat me and destroy the Black Omen!{full break}

to

{Queen Zeal}: The Black Omen trancends time,{line break}
awaiting the day the almighty Lavos will awken!{page break}
Your destiny led you here, and here you will remain for{line break}
eternity!{page break}
...unless you think you can defeat me and destroy
the Black Omen!{full break}

. . .

{Queen Zeal}: Come, children of this world! I shall lure{line break}
you into the midst of Lavos' slumber...into an enternal{line break}
black dream!{full break}

to

{Queen Zeal}: Come forth, children of this world! I shall lure{line break}
you into the heart of Lavos' slumber...into an enternal{line break}
nightmare!{full break}


. . .

(I didn't bother to put the un-modified version of this)

{Queen Zeal}: Disgusting worms...I am the queen who will{line break}
rule this world eternally together with the almighty Lavos!{line break}
How dare you oppose me?! HOW DARE YOU?!{full break}

(If Magus is in party)
{Magus}: You fool! Nothing can escape the fate of death!{full break}

{Magus}: Queen Zeal...a sad woman enthralled by Lavos, used{line break}
as nothing more than a pawn...how pitiful...{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: Cursed Prophet...or should I say Janus?{full break}

{Magus}: ...what?!{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: Did you think I would not recognize my own{line break}
son when you revealed yourself to Lavos?! You betrayed me{line break}
with your sins at the Ocean Palace, Janus!{full break}

{Magus}: You betrayed yourself, mother, and the kingdom!{full break}
...and you betrayed everything father stood for!{null}

{Queen Zeal}:  The Kingdom of Zeal will live for all{line break}
time as part of the legacy of the almighty Lavos!{full break}

{Magus}: No...no it won't. Lavos just used you, mother! And{line break}
when he's done with you, he'll just tear you up and{line break}
cast you away. You mean nothing to "him"!{full break}

{Magus}: I won't let this go on any longer! I'll put an end to
this once and for all by my own hands!{full break}

(1st PC in party in order listed below speaks)
{Marle}: ...Janus...?{full break}
{Lucca}: {Magus}...?{full break}
{Frog}: ...{Magus}...even I sympathize...{full break}
{Robo}: I sympathize with you, {Magus}.{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: Oh, you will, Janus? No! You will atone for your{line break}
sins with your death!{full break}

(If Magus is not in party)
{Queen Zeal}: May you die and regret this folly of rebellion{line break}
for all time!{full break}


{Queen Zeal}: I-impossible! How could you mere mortals do this{line break}
to the likes of me?! Oh, almighty Lavos, I beseech you, give me your power!{full break}

*The Black Omen shoots energy into whatever surface is below it on the world map, depending on era it was taken on. Area where PCs are starts shaking.*

(All present speak in order listed below)
{Marle}: Uh-oh...{full break}
{Lucca}: Aw crap...{full break}
{Robo}: A massive energy reaction is building! The Omen may{line break}
disintegrate!{full break}
{Frog}: The Omen crumbles beneath us just as the Ocean Palace core did!{full break}
{Ayla}: ...?! Lavos come!{full break}
{Magus}: ...mother, you are a fool to the end...{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: Hahaha! HAHAHAHA! At last, the almighty{line break}
Lavos shall awaken! Before him, you are as helpless as{line break}
infants! What a delight!{page break}
Though my physical body dies, my spirit will live on for{line break}
eternity as part of the almighty Lavos! HAHAHAHA!{page break}
Immortality is mine atlast!{full break}

*the Black Omen disintegrates*

END "The Fated Hour!"

. . .

{Lavos}: I will not explain myself to mortal creatures. Your{line break}
limited intellect blinds you to the truths I speak!{page break}
Your conciousness is far too primitve to even begin to
understand the divine order of the Universe.{page break}
Again I ask you, why do you wish to destroy me? Why do
you wish to destroy your "god"?{full break}

*PCs draw weapons*

{Robo}: We cannot allow you to continue destruction of our Planet!{full break}

{Magus}: This is the end for you, Lavos!{full break}

{Lucca}: We can't let you live after what you've done to us, to{line break}
our world!{full break}

{Lavos}: Violence against me will be futile. But, even so,{line break}
if you wish to fight, then fight! This is a battle of{line break}
survival! That is the rule of nature, only the strongest
will survive!{full break}

. . .