Dialogue Enhancements Commentary Thread (old)

[Zakyrus]

Yeah, I hate having bugs in a release.

[Kyronea]

In any case, once you get me the list I'll have it taken care of in a jiffy, and anything else you need me to do let me know. In the meantime I will proceed with that cutscene from the throne room of Zeal, and then go to the endings.

[Zakyrus]

Ok. Cool. I have to get ready for work now.  And I'll be hard core mapping tonight to get Cursed Woods finished, so I won't be online. Though after that I'll get time to finish what I needed to add on the item desc. list.

[Kyronea]

Okay, so I don't know where to post these yet, so I'll just put it here for your approval. I suppose I'll make a "The Lost Cutscenes!" thread if this is acceptable.

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The Lost Cutscenes

Number One: "The Queen's Discussion"

*player steps into the Zeal throneroom and does not move an inch*

{delay 10}
*Discussion begins. Once this occurs the player is unable to move until it

is over*

{Schala}: Mother...I...{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: What is it, Schala?!{full break}

*Schala looks away, back to Zeal, away again, then back to Zeal*

{Schala}: Janus...{delay 03}Janus and I are worried about you{line break}
Mother...your behavior has been odd...Janus is quite concerned{line break}
as am I.{full break}

{Prophet}: .{delay 01}.{delay 01}.{delay 01}{page break}
You worry about nothing, girl!{full break}

*Queen Zeal starts laughing*

{Queen Zeal}: He speaks out of turn!{full break}

*Queenie glares at the Prophet*

{Queen Zeal}: Do NOT answer for me again!{full break}

*Prophet bows or otherwise does some animation that shows humility and

obedience*

{Prophet}: Of course, Your Majesty...forgive my discretion.{full break}

*Dalton looks away*

{Dalton}: Hah!{full break}

*Zeal looks at Schala*

{Queen Zeal}: Worry not, my daughter! Everything is well with{line break}
me! Our Kingdom is approaching a glorious new era...you will{line break}
understand, my dear, in time...all in time.{page break}
*She goes back into her laughing animation*
Hahahahaha!{full break}

*She halts as Schala looks away*

{Schala}: I hope so, mother...for your sake...{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: Prophet! I trust that there was no uprising{line break}
during today's slave gathering?{full break}

*Prophet shakes his head no*

{Prophet}: No, Your Higness...the Earthbound Ones have finally{line break}
learned not to rebel against us.{full break}

{Queen Zeal}: Good...I would hate to see valuable slaves throw{line break}
away their lives in such a futile effort!{full break}

*She goes into her laughing animation yet again for a brief moment*

{Queen Zeal}: How is the construction of the Ocean Palace{line break}
proceeding?{full break}

*Dalton nods in Queenie's direction*

{Dalton}: Your Majesty, the Ocean Palace is nearing completion.{line break}
I estimate not more than a day until it is operational.{full break}

{Queen}: Wonderful...have the Mammon Machine moved to the{line break}
Ocean Palace immediately.{full break}

{Dalton}: Of course, Your Majesty.{full break}

*Dalton turns to leave and sees the party*

{Dalton}: Ah...I see you've decided to show yourselves. Not{line break}
a good decision on your part.{full break}}

*rest of scene proceeds as it went if the party did not wait, with the Prophet line before Dalton's cut, of course*
I'll go ahead and start work on the endings in the meantime.

[Zakyrus]

Awesome! Now if only I could put out maps this fast. 

[Kyronea]

Text is much easier than maps, you know. I'm not doing as much work as you are.

In any case, I'll go ahead and create the thread I suggested.

[Zakyrus]

Go for it. Make as many threads as you need.

[Zakyrus]

Will this work?

BEGIN "At the End of the Planet's Dream!"

*Note: I will cover the various other methods of accessing Lavos as a small

aside in the sidequests dialogue. The storyline covers the Black Omen route

to Lavos alone.*

*party appears in front of Lavos in the Pocket Dimension. The other four

party members not in the party also appear along with the party.*

*PCs draw their weapons*
(All PCs Speak in order listed)
{Marle}: This is it...this is the final battle, everyone!{line break}
Let's give it our all, for the sake of the world!{full break}
{Lucca}: Lavos...the final battle of our journey..let's go{line break}
everyone! We can't lose now!{full break}
{Robo}: We have come so far...without this journey I would{line break}
still be a deactivated robot in a ruined dome...I thank you{line break}
all. Now let us destroy Lavos!{full break}
{Frog}: To think...it seems only yesterday I was a sad frog{line break}
living in misery...and now I fight not just for Queen Leene,{line break}
but all humanity! Lavos, you will fall this day!{full break}
{Ayla}: {Ayla} fight for world! {Ayla} fight for friends!{line break}
Lavos...{Ayla} kill you!{full break}
{Magus}: Lavos...you defeated me in the Ocean Palace, but here{line break}
you will fall! I will take revenge for all you have taken from{line break}
me!{full break}
*Lavos shrieks his might shriek of Lavostude*

*Player chooses party to fight battle. Other PCs are relegated as NPCs and

disappear during the battle, but reappear after the battle.*

*Lavos Shell Fight!*

*Everyone is, unsurprisingly, exhausted, including the PCs not actually in

the party. I am doing this because I want the impression that every party

member is actually fighting, storyline wise, and not just the people in the

party.*

{Marle}: W-we did it...we actually did it...{full break}

{Lucca}: It's over...right?{full break}

*Robo shakes his head no*

{Robo}: No...my sensors detect an even more powerful lifesign{line break}
inside.{full break}

{Frog}: Damn it...we should have known this would not be{line break}
so simple...{full break}

(If Magus is present){Magus}: We've got to destroy the core!{full break}
(If Magus is not present){Robo}: We must destroy the core!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} no lose! We go!{full break}

{Marle}: Right! Let's go inside!{full break}

*Everyone steps inside the hole in the shell*

{Marle}: We're in really deep, aren't we...?{full break}

{Lucca}: Uh-huh...everyone's okay, right?{full break}

{Frog}: I am ready for battle, as always!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} ready.{full break}

*Crono nods*

(If Magus){Magus}: We're fine, geeky...let's just get on with it.{full

break}
(If no Magus){Robo}: We are alright, {Lucca}. Let us proceed!{full break}

{Voice}: Foolish mortal creatures...why do you insist on{line break}
such fighting?{full break}

*Everyone looks around, blinking, confused*

{Marle}: ...w-w-what was that?{full break}

{Frog}: Might that have been...Lavos?{full break}

{Lucca}: B-b-but...how...?{full break}

{Ayla}: ...{Ayla} no scared...everyone no be scared...{full break}

{Robo}: We can only find out by proceeding deeper inside.{full break}

*Player can now select party, and then save at the save point. From here on

out, other party members wait in this shell area. Player can go back to the

End of Time, but the party members not in the party will no longer be

there.*

*player's party heads on inside. Other party members auto-follow the player

after the player reaches the exit. Scene only fades to the Lavos core after

all PCs reach the exit*

(Note: We need a different track to play during the dialogue, and have

World Revolution start up only when the battle begins)
*PCs are all around the Lavos Core holder machine thingy*

{Marle}: Oh my GOD...what IS this?! Is this the real Lavos?!{full break}

{Robo}: It is incredible...I am detecting what appears to be{line break}
DNA from every creature to exist since it crashed on this{line break}
Planet!{full break}

{Ayla}: Smell like Earth...yet not Earth!{full break}

{Voice}: I am more than what you see here.{full break}

*PCs are all shocked*

{Frog}: It speaks!{full break}

{Marle}: Lavos...Lavos can talk?!{full break}

{Lucca}: How...? Is Lavos actually...SENTIENT?!{full break}

{Voice}: I am sentient, mortal creature.{full break}

{Magus}: Why am I not surprised?{full break}

{Marle}: B-b-but...but why are you doing this?! If you're{line break}
sentient, how could you do what you've done to our world?!{full break}

{Lavos}: It is how my species propogates. With every world{line break}
my species takes the genes of the lifeforms and integrates it{line break}
into our own, to create a more perfect life form.{full break}

{Frog}: You are killing this Planet! You are taking the{line break}
energy it needs to live for your own!{full break}

{Lavos}: Do you not also take what you need to live from{line break}
other creatures? You kill animals for food. You destroy trees{line break}
for fuel to burn, or to use as writing material. I am no{line break}
different from you.{full break}

{Lucca}: Yes you are! You're killing a sentient being for{line break}
your own food!{full break}

{Lavos}: I will not explain myself to mortal creatures. Your{line break}
limited lifespans blind you to the truths I speak!{page break}
Again I ask you, why do you wish to destroy me? Why do
you wish to destroy your "god"?{full break}

<if Magus is present, it would be Lucca>
{Magus}: Ha! YOU are not God!{null}


{Lavos}: I never said I was. It was your people that manipulated MY
energy to their own whims. It is the Mystics that were raised to
beleive by Magus's own warlords that he was creating an idol
for them to worship! It is the very essense of a "god" that I am
now ONLY because of your history which has became part of mine.

*PCs draw weapons*

{Robo}: We cannot allow you to continue killing our Planet!{full break}

{Magus}: This is the end for you, Lavos!{full break}

{Lucca}: We can't let you live after what you've done to us, to{line break}
our world!{full break}

{Lavos}: Violence against me will be futile. But, even so,{line break}
if you wish to fight, then fight! This is a battle of{line break}
survival! That is the rule of nature!{full break}

*Lavos opens up his arms*

*Player chooses party to fight with. Epic boss fight commences. At end,

mechanical Lavos shell is replaced by the core*

{Marle}: ...i-it's humanoid...?!{full break}

{Lavos}: Your will to live is stronger than I had anticipated.{page break}
But why? Do you not understand what I truly am? I take all{line break}
life as a part of me, to create a more perfect life form! Is{line break}
this not the inevitable conclusion for all life? I am more{line break}
than a mere carnal entity...I allow all life to live forever!{full break}

{Lucca}: Lier! Why would you destroy the world in 1999?! You're{line break}
not some miracle of evolution! You're just a parasite!{full break}

{Frog}: You have bred life on this Planet as if we were{line break}
naught but cattle! If you wished for all of us to live you{line break}
would not kill the future!{full break}

{Lavos}: I can see my attempts to reason with you are futile...{line break}
I had hoped to stop this violence.{page break}
The world would not understand me anymore than you would. If I{line break}
attempted to spawn without ensuring the safety of my children{line break}
you would kill them without a thought.{full break}

{Ayla}: They fight us!{full break}

{Lavos}: My spawn defended themselves from your aggression{line break}
against them. Why would they not? Any life form under attack{line break}
defends itself, as I am doing so with you now.{page break}


{Marle}: You're lying!{full break}

*Crono nods*

{Lavos}: I do not understand why you continually refuse to{line break}
listen to reason. I give you one final chance: cease this{line break}
hostility. Humanity will have the splendor it dreams for as{line break}
a part of me, for all of eternity!{full break}

{All}: NEVER!{full break}

*Crono whips out his sword and his hairs blows dramatically*

{Marle}: This is {Crono}'s, ours...Leene's, Doan's...{line break}
everyone's...!{page break}

*Marle enters her casting stance*

Everyone's World!{full break}

{Lucca}: ...{page break}

*Lucca draws her gun*

Lucca: You cannot justify that inflicting suffering upon a whole world
is evolution! We will NOT allow this!{null}

{Robo}: I am a life created by humans...however, life is life!{line break}
The same as {Lucca}, {Crono}, {Marle}, {Ayla}, {Frog},{line break}
{Magus}...{page break}

*Robo thrusts his fist out*

I am one of the many lives of this planet!{delay 04}
I too will stand up for the whole world!{full break}

{Frog}: For the sake of a disgusting abomination such{line break}
as you...?!{page break}

*Frog whips out his sword*

That is not why we exist!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} not lose! {Ayla}'s this Earth's life!{page break}

*Ayla takes a dramatic kicking pose*

You not part of this Earth's life!{full break}

{Magus}: ...this time, Lavos...for certain...I will beat{line break}
you, you bastard...{page break}

*Magus flips his cape*

I will settle my long struggle once and for all!{full break}

{Lavos}: Very well...a battle for survival is what awaits us...{line break}
this is the natural order of life in the universe...{page break}
Who am I to deny this natural order?{full break}

*player chooses party*

*Evil Lavos scream*

*The uber boss fight of utter awesometude*

*Screen does the zip through all eras bit, and as the screen fades to white

with the sillouette, one last line is uttered...*

{Lavos}: This is not the end of me...I am eternal! I shall take{line break}
revenge on this entire universe for your actions against me...{page break}
The cries of the universe shall echo for aeons long after you are as
nothing but stardust!
You will see! I will destroy EVERYTHING!{full break}

*scene fades out*

END "At the End of the Planet's Dream!"

[Kyronea]

It was difficult finding the changed lines...might have been best to bold or italisize them for easier locating. In any case, it looks fine to me, the mild reworking. A nice bit of extra dialogue.

[Zakyrus]

Excellent. I'm glad it works.

[Zakyrus]

Very nice on the Lost Cutscenes... also, for the Medina Square scene can we have the NPC named "Fanatic" instead of "Chanter"? It suits much better. I still would eventually love to import some kind of chanting music for this scene to replace the normal mystic chant music (I hate it).

[Kyronea]

Very nice on the Lost Cutscenes... also, for the Medina Square scene can we have the NPC named "Fanatic" instead of "Chanter"? It suits much better. I still would eventually love to import some kind of chanting music for this scene to replace the normal mystic chant music (I hate it).

Sure. I like Fantatic over Chanter anyway...I just tossed in a random name since I figured it wouldn't stick and at the time of writing I wasn't sure what to name that character anyway. I'll go edit that now.

[Zakyrus]

This yet again (Ultimate revision):

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BEGIN "At the End of the Planet's Dream!"

*Note: I will cover the various other methods of accessing Lavos as a small

aside in the sidequests dialogue. The storyline covers the Black Omen route

to Lavos alone.*

*party appears in front of Lavos in the Pocket Dimension. The other four

party members not in the party also appear along with the party.*

*PCs draw their weapons*
(All PCs Speak in order listed)
{Marle}: This is it...this is the final battle, everyone!{line break}
Let's give it our all, for the sake of the world!{full break}

{Lucca}: Lavos...the final battle of our journey..let's go{line break}
everyone! We can't lose now!{full break}

{Robo}: We have come so far...without this journey I would{line break}
still be a deactivated robot in a ruined dome...I thank you{line break}
all. Now let us destroy Lavos!{full break}

{Frog}: To think...it seems only yesterday I was a sad frog{line break}
living in misery...and now I fight not just for Queen Leene,{line break}
but all humanity! Lavos, you will fall this day!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} fight for world! {Ayla} fight for friends!{line break}
Lavos...{Ayla} kill you!{full break}

{Magus}: Lavos...you defeated me in the Ocean Palace, but here{line break}
you will fall! I will take revenge for all you have taken from{line break}
me!{full break}
*Lavos shrieks his might shriek of Lavostude*

*Player chooses party to fight battle. Other PCs are relegated as NPCs and

disappear during the battle, but reappear after the battle.*

*Lavos Shell Fight!*

*Everyone is, unsurprisingly, exhausted, including the PCs not actually in

the party. I am doing this because I want the impression that every party

member is actually fighting, storyline wise, and not just the people in the

party.*

{Marle}: W-we did it...we actually did it...{full break}

{Lucca}: It's over...right?{full break}

*Robo shakes his head no*

{Robo}: No...my sensors detect an even more powerful life-sign{line break}
within.{full break}

{Frog}: Damn it...we should have known this would not be{line break}
so simple...{full break}

(If Magus is present){Magus}: We've got to destroy the core!{full break}
(If Magus is not present){Robo}: We must destroy the core!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} no lose! We go!{full break}

{Marle}: Right! Let's go inside!{full break}

*Everyone steps inside the hole in the shell*

{Marle}: We're in really deep, aren't we...?{full break}

{Lucca}: Uh-huh...everyone's okay, right?{full break}

{Frog}: I am ready for battle, as always!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} ready.{full break}

*Crono nods*

(If Magus){Magus}: We're fine, geeky...let's just get on with it.{full

break}
(If no Magus){Robo}: We are alright, {Lucca}. Let us proceed!{full break}

{????}: Foolish mortal creatures...why do you insist on{line break}
this irrelevance?{full break}

*Everyone looks around, blinking, confused*

{Marle}: ...w-w-who's there!?{full break}

{Frog}: Might that have been...Lavos?{full break}

{Lucca}: B-b-but...how...?{full break}

{Ayla}: ...{Ayla} no scared...everyone no be scared...{full break}

{Robo}: We can only find out by proceeding deeper inside.{full break}

*Player can now select party, and then save at the save point. From here on

out, other party members wait in this shell area. Player can go back to the

End of Time, but the party members not in the party will no longer be

there.*

*player's party heads on inside. Other party members auto-follow the player

after the player reaches the exit. Scene only fades to the Lavos core after

all PCs reach the exit*

*PCs are all around the Lavos Core holder machine thingy*

{Marle}: Oh my GOD...what IS this?! Is this the real Lavos?!{full break}

{Robo}: It is incredible...I am detecting what appears to be{line break}
DNA from every creature to exist since it crashed on this{line break}
Planet!{full break}

{Ayla}: Sense like Earth...yet not Earth!{full break}

{????}: I am far more than what you can perceive here.{full break}

*PCs are all shocked*

{Frog}: It speaks!{full break}

{Marle}: Lavos...Lavos can talk?!{full break}

{Lucca}: How...? Is Lavos actually...SENTIENT?!{full break}

{????}: I am sentient, mortal creature.{full break}

{Magus}: Why am I not surprised?{full break}

{Marle}: B-b-but...but why are you doing this?! If you're{line break}
sentient, how could you do what you've doing to our world?!{full break}

{Lavos}: It is how my species propagates. With every world{line break}
my species takes the genes of the lifeforms and integrate it{line break}
into our own, to create a more perfect "being".... a consciousnesses
in which all life can be a part of.{full break}

{Frog}: You are killing the Planet! You are taking the{line break}
energy it needs to live for your own!{full break}

{Lavos}: Do you not also take what you need to live from{line break}
other creatures? You kill animals for food. You destroy trees{line break}
for fuel to burn, to live within houses, or even to use as writing material.
While doing this, your very Planet suffers slowly but surely, as
it's environment is forever blighted.
You take everything from nature simply to justify your existence.
I am no different from you.{full break}

{Lavos}: Irrelevance, I need not to explain myself to mortal creatures.
Your limited consciousness prevents you from seeing the Universal
paradigm. {page break}
Now....again I ask you, why do you wish to destroy me?
Why do you wish to destroy your "god"?{full break}

<if Magus isn't present, it would be Lucca>
{Magus}: Ha! YOU are not God!{null}

{Lavos}: I never said I was. It was your people that manipulated MY
energy to their own whims with that infernal Mammon Machine.
 It is the Mystics that were raised to believe by Magus's own warlords
that he was creating an idol for them to worship!
 It is the very essence of a "god" that I am now ONLY because of your history which has became part of mine.

*PCs draw weapons*

{Robo}: We cannot allow you to continue killing our Planet!{full break}

{Magus}: This is the end for you, Lavos!{full break}

{Lucca}: We can't let you live after what you've done to us, to{line break}
our world!{full break}

{Lavos}: Violence against me will be futile. But, even so,{line break}
if you wish to fight, then fight! This is a battle of{line break}
survival! That is the rule of nature!{full break}

*Lavos opens up his arms*

*Player chooses party to fight with. Epic boss fight commences. At end,

mechanical Lavos shell is replaced by the core*

{Marle}: ...i-it's humanoid...?!{full break}

{Lavos}: Your will to live is far stronger than I had anticipated.{page break}
But why? Do you not understand what I truly am? I take all{line break}
life as a part of me, to create a more perfect life form! Is{line break}
this not the inevitable conclusion for all life?

{Lucca}: Liar! Why would you destroy the world in 1999?! You're{line break}
not some miracle of evolution! You're just a parasite!{full break}

{Frog}: You have bred life on this Planet as if we were{line break}
naught but cattle! If you wished for all of us to live you{line break}
would not kill the future!{full break}

{Lavos}: I can see my attempts to reason with you are futile...{line break}
I had hoped to stop this violence.{page break}
The world would not understand me anymore than you would. If I{line break}
attempted to spawn without ensuring the safety of my children{line break}
you would kill them without a thought.{full break}

{Ayla}: They fight us!{full break}

{Lavos}: My spawn defended themselves from your aggression{line break}
against them. Why would they not? Any life form under attack{line break}
defends itself on the survival level, as I am doing so with you now.{page break}
Nonetheless, you still do not understand the higher order of things....

{Lavos}: Everything in this universe may be made to decay, but life keeps
evolving to higher and higher levels. In my existence, I have seen
endless worlds....
...but I also know that the stars that rule over the planets
will someday explode, inevitably destroying the world and
reducing everything nearby into mere "stardust".
By constantly "moving", my species evolves endlessly, without
fear of ever dying!
I am more than a mere carnal entity...I allow all life to last forever!{full break}

{Marle}: You're lying!{full break}

*Crono nods*

{Lavos}: I do not understand why you continually refuse to{line break}
listen to reason. I give you one final chance: cease this{line break}
hostility. Humanity will have the splendor it dreams for as{line break}
a part of me, for all of eternity!{full break}

{All}: NEVER!{full break}

*Crono whips out his sword and his hairs blows dramatically*

{Marle}: This is {Crono}'s, ours...Leene's, Doan's...{line break}
everyone's...!{page break}

*Marle enters her casting stance*

Everyone's World!{full break}

{Lucca}: ...{page break}

*Lucca draws her gun*

Lucca: You cannot justify that inflicting suffering upon a whole world
is evolution! We will NOT allow this!{null}

{Robo}: I am a life created by humans...however, life is life!{line break}
The same as {Lucca}, {Crono}, {Marle}, {Ayla}, {Frog},{line break}
{Magus}...{page break}

*Robo thrusts his fist out*

I am one of the many lives of this planet!{delay 04}
I too will stand up for the whole world!{full break}

{Frog}: For the sake of a disgusting abomination such{line break}
as you...?!{page break}

*Frog whips out his sword*

That is not why we exist!{full break}

{Ayla}: {Ayla} never lose! This is Mother Earth's life!{page break}

*Ayla takes a dramatic kicking pose*

You not part of Mother Earth!{full break}

*Magus points at Lavos*  //new anim

{Magus}: ...this time, you fucking bastard, I swear I will destroy you!    //maybe... I want this to sound like he means it.

*Magus flips his cape*

I will settle this long struggle ONCE AND FOR ALL!{full break}

{Lavos}: Very well...a battle for survival is what awaits us...{line break}
this is the natural order of life in the universe...{page break}
Who am I to deny this natural order?{full break}

*player chooses party*

{Lavos}: I can feel that in your mind that you are truly
ready. Your DNA is astounding! It shall be a perfect
addition to the countless species I have encountered.{full break}
This is the end! Prepare to "become" immortal!             // the last line is out of sheer spite, this is the closest I want Lavos to taunt the PCs.

*Evil Lavos scream*

*The uber boss fight of utter awesometude*

*Screen does the zip through all eras bit, and as the screen fades to white

with the sillouette, one last line is uttered...*

{Lavos}: This is not the end of me...I am eternal! Then I will bring vengeance
upon the entire cosmos for your actions against me...{page break}
Know that the cries of the Universe shall echo for aeons long after you are as
nothing but "stardust"!
You will see! I will destroy EVERYTHING!{full break}

*scene fades out*

END "At the End of the Planet's Dream!"
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[Kyronea]

I don't want that last line before the scream. I prefer him shrugging away the whole ordeal as if it is meaningless to him. When you've lived many millions of years, seven people invading your core and taking you on doesn't seem like such a big deal, regardless of what you've done.

So this:

{Lavos}: I can feel that in your mind that you are truly
ready. Your DNA is astounding! It shall be a perfect
addition to the countless species I have encountered.{full break}
This is the end! Prepare to "become" immortal!             // the last line is out of sheer spite, this is the closest I want Lavos to taunt the PCs.

Is a complete no.

Otherwise it works well from what I've looked over.

[Zakyrus]

Well, you have a valid point. I'll add the rest whenever I get that far.