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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2006, 02:26:23 pm »
The other timelines would not of led to apocalypse, at least not a Lavos intervened apocalypse like the CT timeline does, as Lavos would not pop out of his Pocket Dimension, this is proved by the fact CT exists.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2006, 02:59:17 pm »
Um....yes he would...? O_o

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 05:29:31 am »
But hes only an infant.. He stays in there for .. well i dont know how long, until hes got all the energy and DNA or whatever that he wants, then he pops out in the CT timeline to destroy the world, and lay his eggs.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 06:38:07 am »
He would stay in his PD so the future would go on normally, without Apocalypse. Belthasar wouldn't be there though, so it wouldn't exactly be like the future in CC.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2006, 11:17:11 am »
Yeah good point... Without belthesar they would remain quite unintelligent...

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2006, 03:24:58 pm »
No see, Lavos was an adult when he landed. As infants, they stay on the planet they're born on until adulthood, then inseminate another planet until they enter gestation.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2006, 03:36:53 pm »
No see, Lavos was an adult when he landed. As infants, they stay on the planet they're born on until adulthood, then inseminate another planet until they enter gestation.

Then why did he have the need to absorb the planets energy ? I see no logical explanation for this being true...

Edit : And if you say he needed the energy because he was feeling pekish after his long trip, everything aformentioned would still apply as Lavos would be weak after using so much energy the Zealians would still not try absorbing his entire null energy.
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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2006, 05:15:18 pm »
How about collecting DNA and Energy? DNA for Evolution and energy for laying eggs(+the new collected DNA). Becoming better and reproduce is logical for me.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2006, 05:28:47 pm »
How about collecting DNA and Energy? DNA for Evolution and energy for laying eggs(+the new collected DNA). Becoming better and reproduce is logical for me.

How much energy do you need just to lay a few eggs ? And since when did Lavos "Lay eggs". The fact is we dont really know much about the life cycle of a Lavos... And still, the mere fact he needs to collect Energy points to the conclusion that Lavos had dried up his reserves, so still the Zealians would not bother using his energy, the sun stone would of been just as ample an energy source.
Also the point that absorbing the energy of the planet weakens the planet, we dont know what effects this may of had, the planet may of had more continents, more life forms, radically diferent environment, but after loosing so much energy it lost this. We are seeing the planet as a strange entity here with numerous powers, who know what it could of been like at its full potential.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2006, 06:32:49 pm »
Actually, it's more hinting towards the fact that the sunstone already ran out, or was on it's last end. Heck, in 2300AD, the sunstone is a moonstone, and with Zeal's ever need for magic and their usage rate, if the sunstone can deteriorate in 14,300 years without anyone using it, imagine how fast it'd deteriorate from the Zealian's power hungry usage.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2006, 07:11:19 pm »
Actually, it's more hinting towards the fact that the sunstone already ran out, or was on it's last end. Heck, in 2300AD, the sunstone is a moonstone, and with Zeal's ever need for magic and their usage rate, if the sunstone can deteriorate in 14,300 years without anyone using it, imagine how fast it'd deteriorate from the Zealian's power hungry usage.

I havent actaully played CT in a while, but i dont recall any specific mention that use of the sunstone like they were was actaully causing it to run out, and we dont know how long and extensively they were using it beforehand, or what it was really doing underground in the Sun Palace. For all we know being underground away from any sunlight causes it to loose its power, whereas if they had kept using it, and kept it in a nice sunny spot, it may never of waned away, as long as Melchior never got his hands on it to make sun shades.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2006, 08:41:29 pm »
Additionally, Melchior didn't destroy the Sun Stone to make his sun shades. The Sun Stone still exists at the end of the game, Taban even strikes a hammer on it (without apparent damage) to launch fireworks during the Moonlight Parade.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2006, 12:42:58 am »
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Then why did he have the need to absorb the planets energy ? I see no logical explanation for this being true...

Edit : And if you say he needed the energy because he was feeling pekish after his long trip, everything aformentioned would still apply as Lavos would be weak after using so much energy the Zealians would still not try absorbing his entire null energy.

Because he entered the planet to absorb his energy so he could enter Gestation. READ what I said. Don't just glance with both your eyes closed.

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Also the point that absorbing the energy of the planet weakens the planet, we dont know what effects this may of had, the planet may of had more continents, more life forms, radically diferent environment, but after loosing so much energy it lost this. We are seeing the planet as a strange entity here with numerous powers, who know what it could of been like at its full potential.

That'd be absorbing lifeforms and land mass, not energy. The energy Lavos was absorbing was probably geothermal energy or like, mystical spirit energy from the planet or something, like the Lifestream.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2006, 05:46:35 am »
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Also the point that absorbing the energy of the planet weakens the planet, we dont know what effects this may of had, the planet may of had more continents, more life forms, radically diferent environment, but after loosing so much energy it lost this. We are seeing the planet as a strange entity here with numerous powers, who know what it could of been like at its full potential.

That'd be absorbing lifeforms and land mass, not energy. The energy Lavos was absorbing was probably geothermal energy or like, mystical spirit energy from the planet or something, like the Lifestream.
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My point WAS that the energy was probably something similiar to the Lifestream. The lifestream gives life to everything, without the lifestream, there would be nothing on the planet, well not exactly, but there would be no life. So if Lavos was absorbing the Lifestream (or this planets equivalant) there would be no life on the planet, eventaully, the planet itself would die, there probably would be no planet left at all if Lavos kept absorbing the energy.

Your other point didnt actaully make enough sense for me to reply, and its kinda odd how we call Lavos a he opposed to a she.

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Re: Another topic on lots of dimensions/timelines
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2006, 12:58:34 pm »
Well yea, but even without lifestream, continents and species wouldn't just dissapear.