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Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« on: May 16, 2006, 04:23:34 pm »
Frog's Sidequest provides with the option of encountering Cyrus' spirit in two forms- One of an angry ghost, and the other of a calmed spirit.

Now, I've never really bothered to check it out, but is there any way to actually beat it? I'm not certain there is. Obviously, it haunts it's burial place, like all spirits though.. But what are it's properties? How strong and weak is it, etc. etc.

Then we have Cyrus' calmed form. He leaves the world after giving his last words to Frog, and allows Frog to be clean of guilt, making him one of your finest warriors.

Now, I'd like us to discuss how the undead are portrayed and come into being here.

As it seems, ghosts haunt places due to their negative feelings and sentiments. Garai's anger and sorrow transformed the Island of the Damned into a place the Addams Family would call a tropical getaway. Cyrus manages to maintain a spectral form in the world of a living and become one heck of a boss. There are skeletons on the Ghost Ship and the Isle of the Damned, as well as in Magus' fort. Ozzie has shown skill in necromancy on Zenan Bridge, but I'm really uncertain where that could lead us.

Anything to add, comment or expand upon?

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2006, 06:03:32 pm »
When was Cyrus a boss? Or anything to fight, at that matter?

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2006, 07:06:10 pm »
When was Cyrus a boss? Or anything to fight, at that matter?

Glenn's sidequest on the ruins in Choras (Check me if I right on the town).  You face a heavily armored guy... I forgot how you were supposed to beat him again, but it basically cleansed the Masamune and re-enegrized it with new vigor and strength.  The critical rate becomes like 70%.  What a beastly sword that is...

The Necromancy that always pissed me off was in the Guardia Prison.  You know the guys who looked like they were in rags but were really dead....  I wonder if Yakra XIII set up those traps to stop people from meddling.  After all Yakra XIII managed to infiltrate the entire castle...

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 11:29:13 pm »
I recall that Poyozo Dance was particularly effective against the ghost.

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2006, 12:27:21 am »
and we know that ghost was Cyrus...how? I figured it was just a monster.

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2006, 12:41:02 am »
Doesn't it say that Cyrus was the ghost? Or beforehand I believe Frog or some other dogooder says that inside there is a ghost and that ghost is Cyrus.
Well, its been a while since I played it, so don't take my word for it.
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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2006, 01:16:04 am »
The ghost is labeled as Cyrus by the game itself... You might want to check it out again, somehow.

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I recall that Poyozo Dance was particularly effective against the ghost.

I never bothered getting it... Makes me wonder if it's an attack of holy attributes or something to that effect.

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2006, 08:48:30 am »
You can hurt him with Ayla's tail spin and the Poyozo dance I think, because both of them are unelemental attacks, you can even hit/hurt Spekkio with tail spin. Every magic is nullified, and the Physical Attacks always miss.

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 11:21:57 am »
The Ghost of Cyrus cancels all damage. Everything. Cyrus has like 2000HP in the CT playstation version extras section. Nothing can hurt him. You can't even charm him.

However, has anyone tried Magus's Blackhole magic attack on him?

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2006, 07:23:33 pm »
Blackhole either doesn't work or you aren't close enough to do it...I forget which, but I remember trying...Although I believe that his defeat is possible through certain Techs, I forget which and I never tried it...I think Tail Spin & Poyozo Dance make sense though and may have been the ones I had heard of...Dunno...

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2006, 07:32:58 pm »
At least he has some kind of sprite where he seems to be defeated(so he prolly wouldn't disappear if you beat him)
http://www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Enemies/Present/4.html

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2006, 08:31:27 pm »
If you use the one hit kill cheat on Snes, you can defeat him, but after the battle, he simply stands there and continued to tell you to leave and blocks you, so if you want to fight again, you have to go out then in again.

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2006, 02:07:42 pm »
At least he has some kind of sprite where he seems to be defeated(so he prolly wouldn't disappear if you beat him)
http://www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Enemies/Present/4.html


Good find CyberSarkany! This is definately a puzzle to me. I'll try a couple things on the PS version...

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2006, 11:33:54 pm »
There must be someway you defeat him without using ayla because i defeated him with Crono Glenn and Magus... somehow.

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Re: Cyrus and the properties of specters in the Chrono Series
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2006, 12:20:37 pm »
There must be someway you defeat him without using ayla because i defeated him with Crono Glenn and Magus... somehow.

No you didn't.  I believe you're telling the truth, but you're either mistaking it for something else or just have a false memory.