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Darth Mongoose

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The moon/s?
« on: February 04, 2006, 11:29:59 pm »
I can't find this mentioned in the encyclopedia, so forgive me if it is, but I really want to ask about the moon (or moons) in the Chrono Series.

In Chono Trigger. There is one moon. It is apparently larger or closer than the moon in our world (either that or it's an effect of Magus' fort being closer to the relative equator of that world? And it shines with a strong yellowish colour behind Magus' fort.

In Radical Dreamers, again there is one moon, but it is much smaller in the sky, and is much more white in colour (which could be again due to global positioning and atmosphere, the moon does tend to be larger and more yellow looking around october in England).

In Chrono Cross there are TWO moons. A really huge blue-ish one, and a smaller, red one, seen in front of the blue one.

Does this mean that Chrono's world has a moon that has a moon orbiting it (ie. You wouldn't see the small moon all the time because it would sometimes be behind the big moon). Or is this some wierd effect of the time crash or something? Or was it simply an artisitic decision by the game makers that makes no logical sense? Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2006, 05:47:29 pm »
I'm not too sure, but I think the red moon, the Dark Moon, was a/the moon brought over from the Reptite Dimension due to the whole time Crash fiasco.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2006, 07:03:49 pm »
In RD, the difference with CT is probably purely cosmetic. The moon in CT also had different sizes depending on... nothing particular.

As for CC, Belthasar as the only person who was in both CT and CC (apart from the player)is the only one who noticed the change in the game:
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Belthasar:
   There were six Dragons
   you knew of and one more
   hidden Dragon you didn't...
   Like the second moon
   that once was lost,
   but later was found...
   Although the same planet,
   my world didn't have two
   moons!
   Look up at the night sky
   now and you will see seven
   celestial bodies...
   Five stars and two moons...
   Five brother stars that
   correspond to the five
   colored Dragons, ruling like
   gods over the night skies...
   One moon that corresponds
   to the white Sky Dragon...
   And another darker, daughter
   moon to counterbalance them.

(The connection between the Dragons and the celestial bodies is probably symbolic, not physical.)

The Dark Moon probably got pulled from the Reptite dimension to the Chrono dimension during the Time Crash, at the same time as Dinopolis. Though it's hard to tell why (Dinopolis was pulled to stand against Chronopolis, but why did some random moon appear in the sky?).

That's the common assumption. ButI'm not sure why Belthasar says the second moon that once was lost... it seems it just appeared once, but was it ever lost? :?
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2006, 08:32:16 pm »
The moon has been getting smaller in reality... about 1400 years ago they did have a larger moon.  Same with moon in Radical Dreamers, its smaller because 400 years passed, moon has become smaller in sky and the position is farther away.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2006, 09:21:57 pm »
Well, if the stars and moon represent the dragons, then the moon must be Harle. Firstly the reddish colour of it corresponds nicely, and most obviously, Harle's technique names are all to do with the moon.
Does this mean that Harle is some kind of 'moon dragon'? maybe like the dragon islands, there is also a dragon moon, which is where Harle would be, but she's more interested in meddling with people down on the planet?

The thing of the moon getting further away by the time of RD makes sense, but then in CC it's HUGE!
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2006, 06:24:44 pm »
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Well, if the stars and moon represent the dragons, then the moon must be Harle. Firstly the reddish colour of it corresponds nicely, and most obviously, Harle's technique names are all to do with the moon.
Does this mean that Harle is some kind of 'moon dragon'? maybe like the dragon islands, there is also a dragon moon, which is where Harle would be, but she's more interested in meddling with people down on the planet?


It's all symbolic. She's no more a moon dragon than the other dragons are star dragons. Her element is supposed to technically be Chrono Cross, but that's probably symbolic too.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2006, 06:54:20 pm »
Her Element is black. The fused dragon Time Devourer would be more likely to be Chrono Cross innate. Harle is just a normal Black innate, and happens to be the 7th dragon (but not a representative of the 7th Element).
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2006, 07:34:46 pm »
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The thing of the moon getting further away by the time of RD makes sense, but then in CC it's HUGE!

Well the only explanation I can get for CC (and it is a really I mean really crappy idea) is somehow the Earth gained more energy.  This would make the Earth more massive thus drag the moon in closer...
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2006, 06:49:46 pm »
But it's apparently spiritual energy. And if the earth was being drawn closer, we have a Majora's Mask thing going on. Which, actually, might be kinda cool to do in the Chrono universe. OOOooo, fanfiction? :D
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2006, 08:48:34 pm »
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Does this mean that Chrono's world has a moon that has a moon orbiting it (ie. You wouldn't see the small moon all the time because it would sometimes be behind the big moon). Or is this some wierd effect of the time crash or something? Or was it simply an artisitic decision by the game makers that makes no logical sense? Any ideas?



The smaller, red, moon in Chrono Cross appeared during the Time Crash.  It wasn't present during the events of Chrono Trigger.  As you may have noticed, in real life the moon looks larger in photographs.  This is due to the optical properties of the camera.  If there is any variation in the apparent size of the moon in the series, it is due to the effects of the "camera" used for that scene.
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