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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2006, 08:31:30 pm »
The fact is that 65 mil years was simply the amount of time needed to prepare for the creation of Spawn.  Since we do not know how long it took on other planets where Lavos species to gain control, and how long the space travel took, we cannot say it was long or short.
I really do not see the point of Lavos being desperate.  There is no true evidence of backing this up.
There is one thing that has been annoying me though... the similarities between Lavos and the Saiyans of DBZ (seeing as Akira Toryinma created both this really should not be that much of a shock or a bad thing)...
The Saiyans send their offspring to different planets, the offspring wipe out the planet, and then the Saiyans take control of the planet.
Lavos may have come from a planet with cities and urban life.  Once that planet got overcrowded, some were sent off to find new planets to make suitable homes.  Groups of creatures in these gigantic defensive and energy absorbing shells are launched to find proper territory and inside are the developing Lavosians (The Lavos Cores).  Then after the planet is cleansed and purged, we see the Lavos Spawn to be formed.  Eventually it becomes another homeworld for the Lavosians.  We will never know much about the background of Lavos, especially his homeworld.  There are no real clues.  This is entirely speculation on my part based on inference.

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2006, 09:51:44 pm »
Only problem with the "Abassador Lavos" theory is that Lavos doesn't make the planet more suitable for anything. It simply drains whatver planet it goes to off all the energy it needs to reproduce. While lavos may or may not be sentient, I don't think that Earth was chosen and targetted out out of all the planets there are available.

Besides =] If you have the ability to travel Trillions of miles through space I think that culture should be at least partially capable of terraforming. There's just too many far easier ways to make a planet habitable for a single species.

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2006, 10:51:36 pm »
True its highly impractical... its much more likely that the planet was drained solely for reproduction.

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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2006, 01:43:01 am »
The fact is that the game focuses way too much on the Lavos Shell, which the Lavos Spawns are. So if Lavos is spawing these little transport shell thingys, where are all the True Lavos beings coming from? Are they born inside of the Lavos Spawns and then travel to other planets to evolve? If so then the fact that Lavos came from a populous planet full of cities may not seem to correct, like doesnt it seem strange to have these massive shells rolling around a populated planet?

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2006, 12:04:22 pm »
I think if there is an urban Lavosian city than they probably have developed without shells due to the fact they have evolved not to need them, or they conscouisly get rid of them.

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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2006, 12:13:06 pm »
Well, the Lavos Humanoid is only a bit larger than a man... Perhaps a bit taller and wider, but nothing too big. If that's the case, Lavos Spawns would have Humanoids, too, but about the size of a human baby. Therefore, the Shells would be large enough to host them. However, due to their small size, they must be fragile (Like human babies, yes?) and if enough pressure is used on the shell they would be easily crushed. The Humanoid Lavos has about the same vitality (As in HP) as the mouth, so it's safe to say that Humanoids are only there to protect the already small core. If the Lavoid is underdeveloped, than heck, the Core could be as small as a cell in the early stages. Perhaps the Core comes out of the Humanoid Body as a collection of tissues (The Humanoid does send out the two Bits).

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2006, 12:34:30 pm »
The only reason that Lavo's final form is humanois is because of what it was made of. When you go there Robo (I think) goes, "The DNA of every living creature is in that thing!" paraphrased a bit I think. The final form is, I guess, the ultimate combination of all things the planet had to offer. Had Lavos landed on a planet with predominately blob like creatures, Lavo's final form would have been Bloblike. It should be stressed though that the humanoid body is not a common trait of ALL lavos as best as we can tell.

The problem with the idea of an advanced Lavosian society is that the Lavos lifecycle does not appear to ever involve leaving it's shell. A more proper way to think about it might be that the shell IS lavos, it's his body, but that final form you fight would be it's brain. This is not ideal of course, but the ultimate form is only a part of the entire creature. Why would lavos use all the native DNA in the first place? Not really sure, but it's possible it has to do with how it drains power from the planet. I dunno though.

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2006, 12:38:27 pm »
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Why would lavos use all the native DNA in the first place?


To, hmm, evolve? It would make sense. He lands in a Planet and drains all the DNA to evolve it's race. What's more, Lavos is humanoid, while the majority of life-forms in the world isn't. It's mostly insects. Perhaps the evolution course somehow bound the human DNA to Lavos?

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2006, 12:40:29 pm »
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Why would lavos use all the native DNA in the first place?


To, hmm, evolve? It would make sense. He lands in a Planet and drains all the DNA to evolve it's race. What's more, Lavos is humanoid, while the majority of life-forms in the world isn't. It's mostly insects. Perhaps the evolution course somehow bound the human DNA to Lavos?


I dunno, I can't say much on this simply because I think of the idea of "generic goal of evolution" as a pretty lame one, but that by no means makes you wrong in how the creators might have thought =]

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2006, 02:59:46 pm »
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Why would lavos use all the native DNA in the first place?


To, hmm, evolve? It would make sense. He lands in a Planet and drains all the DNA to evolve it's race. What's more, Lavos is humanoid, while the majority of life-forms in the world isn't. It's mostly insects. Perhaps the evolution course somehow bound the human DNA to Lavos?


I believe it was simply he analyzed what speicies had the greatest influence and control.  Had Azala won the war, then probably the core would have been something along the lines of a Tyrano.

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2006, 03:39:03 pm »
No, I think the Flame had something to do with it... Lavos had to have some link with Mankind. He was asleep all this time, after all.

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2006, 11:34:32 pm »
First off, wow, Legend, welcome back, you were inactive for a while :)

On the idea of the Humaniod Lavos "core", and the spawns, I have two ideas:
1.)  Basically, its from you guys, that that form came about from absorbing DNA of the planet.  I like it.
2.)  I don't much by this one, but perhaps the Lavos spawns arn't bably Lavos's.  This idea comes from FFX.  We have Sin, and then we have Sin Spawns.  Sin Spawns arn't baby Sins, they are just... well, spawns.  Maybe thats what the Lavos Spawns are to Lavos?

Remmber, I like idea one better, but idea 2 is feasible, I think.

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2006, 11:46:45 pm »
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2.) I don't much by this one, but perhaps the Lavos spawns arn't bably Lavos's. This idea comes from FFX. We have Sin, and then we have Sin Spawns. Sin Spawns arn't baby Sins, they are just... well, spawns. Maybe thats what the Lavos Spawns are to Lavos?


Wait, didnt Auron or someone say in the game that Sin Spawns were actually parts of Sin's body? I havent played FFX for a while but im pretty sure someone did state that.

Wait! Remember Operation Mi'hen? The Crusaders shot the Al Bhed cannons at Sin right and all the Sinscales came falling off? I think this is how the Sin Spawn work as well. Because the Sin Spawn only appear in the place where Sin has actually attacked at. So it makes sense that they wouldnt have come from very far away.

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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2006, 12:03:08 am »
To be devil's advocate here, why can't the Lavos Spawns work the same way?  We only see them on Death Peak, which is possibly Lavos' shell.

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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2006, 12:11:20 am »
Ive never really been one for the Death Peak = Lavos Shell Theory, I mean look at the massive size of Death Peak, is it truly possible that Lavos could be THAT massive? I mean, we see what he looks like in 1999 and he is nothing like that size. How could he grow that big in 300 years. Especially since there is no nutrients left in the earth to feed on.

But yes, the Lavos Spawns could work the same way I spose. Maybe like Cacti they grow little pups on themselves then the pups fall off and grow!  :D