Dimensional Dilemma for Tossed Salad?

[Empiric]

In the parallel Dimension philosophy, I would not contend that an individuals Free will is manipulated in the interactions of the two dimensions.  What the parallel diagrams constructed would allow is for the environment around an individual to change depending on how the environment is changed around the alternate individual.  

For example, in the Dual interaction link, a character makes a choice, and that choice pushes against the fabric of the Dimensional Veil.  The other Veil would 'push back' the other Dimension, trying to balance the connection between the two dimensions.  The effect would be that the environment in both dimensions would be balanced; making the environmental effect the same, occasionally making changes in how it got there to accomodate the other dimension.

The One way interaction is rarer and more measurable.  Serge's death is such a strong interaction that it completely breaks the side on one to allow him to live on the other as a balance.  Thus, whenever the Dimension he lives on changes, it has nothing to keep it in check and balance against, creating an environment completely remote from any other.  In fact, the lack of the change in environment forces everyone else's to change in order to make up for the extra influence exerted by Home Serge's.

No interaction is simply that.  Occasionally the barrier needs a place to overcome and give whenever the burden on another connection fluctuates so wildly that it is hard to establish a median.  Van would be a good example.  Both versions of himself are exactly opposite; as are his fathers.  They have 'free will' just like everyone else, but in their case the environment that created them was changed not through their own actions, but through the actions of others.  They are the product of their environs.

Let me state now that I believe in free will, but that I feel that free will 'can' be influenced by environment.  Every child is born an individual and how they are raised and in what environment creates that individuals perception of what is possible within their sense of self.  

The subject of Free Will in CT and CC is an interesting one as their are examples of both free will and a complete lack thereof in both games; something that increases their appeals.  What is the compendiums stance on the free will of humanity?  Did Fate (In a sense, not the actual FATE) dictate events, or did Chrono and Serge finally free us from all influence but our own?  Knowledge on the Compendiums philosophy on this stance would allow for a better discertation on dimensional connections; as opposed to the more heavily Fate based views now being theorized about.

[ZeaLitY]

Well, psychologically, the Humanistic-Existential perspective dictates that free will is painfully real; that we may choose our own destiny, and that we all have an inner need to self-actualize and reach our potential. It also holds that life has meaning when we give it our own, personal meaning. In psychology, usually the truth is a combination of perspectives, however; in some cases, Psychodynamic is correct, while in others, Biological, Behavioristic, Learning, Cognitive, etc. hold true. I personally maintain that granted we have a high enough level of consciousness, humans are capable of free will.

That aside, I do believe the Chrono series is very humanistic, judging from both Trigger and Cross.

Frog: My life retain'eth its
   meaning...!

   We haveth our own will!!

Other comments appear confirming that Lavos negates the meaning and existence of the entire world simply through his creating it and later destroying it. Also, in 2300 AD, Crono, Marle, and Lucca idealistically decide to try and defeat Lavos once they view the visual record.

In Cross, it is obvious that destroying FATE singularly grants everyone in El Nido free choice, for better or worse. Struggling against a 'fate' or destiny is one of the very essences of free will; by destroying it, Serge and El Nido take responsibility for their own lives.

[Swordmaster]

For me, it's clear that there's a power that forces the characters to act in some manners even with some delay, at least in the CC game.

In CC, we see that the Porre invasion happens in the two dimensions with a delay of 3 years for Another. In the two cases, Norris was a spy and the invasion took place after Viper's absence. In the end the situations converged to a common point in diferents ways.

In the momentum of the dimensional crossing, Serge was near to be engulfed by a wave that could kill him in the same way of Serge from Another. How much time he will last longer against the sea? Someday he will return to sea, for sure.

The Hydra in Another got killed by hunters some years before the story took place and the forest died. In Home the Hydra's fate is:

1)be killed by Serge.

2)be killed by Serge but the pulp survives...until another hunter appears

3)be killed by hunters.

In the end the situation will converge.

The game show that you have Free Will relative to some variables of your fate, but not total control, like many peoples believe.

So it's possible that at some point in time the two dimensions will converge, and be like one again.

[doulifee]

interesting theory. it remember me a book called "le voyageur imprudent" -Rene Barjavel- it's a guy who's travel throught time, just to realize that you can make minor change, but major change in history will be corrected.

[ZeaLitY]

Questions raised:

1. Do dimensional connections in addition to Angelus Errare exist in varying levels of strength?

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1. Dimensional connections

Empiric

In addition to Angelus Errare, a few other connections between the dimensions exist around El Nido, varying in strength. This means that actions in a certain area in one dimension may have repercussions in the same area in the other, and so on. While Home and Another run parallel to each other, there are some connections. These can be readily observed by the well-traveled; here are a few cases.

1. During the fire at Hermit's Hideaway in Another World, a patch of ground was charred and smoldered for days after. In Home World, the same patch of grass seemed to be fine; nothing notable happened there. Once the charred area was cooled by the Ice Gun or Breath in Another World, Turnip sprang to life in the same area in Home World, apparently thanks to the cooling of the grass in the other world, which enabled living or growth conditions and allowed Turnip to flourish.

2. Concerning Turnip again, he is stated to be the dream of an Acacia Dragoon -- in Another World. The dream apparently transcends the dimensions; Turnip notes that he dreams he is the Acacia Dragoon when he sleeps.

3. The Black Dragon of Marbule shares a similar dream. From Another World, his nightmare casts a gloom over Home World's Marbule, filling it with Lagoonates and Mantarreys.

4. In Shadow Forest, a rock exists in the fast stream coming from Viper Manor's water system. If you roll it over the water jet in Another World, it is rolled in Home World as well, and a man is trapped behind it. The same happens conversely; if the rock isn't rolled, the mushroom collector is threatened by enemies instead.

More interesting is whether dimensional connections exist between people, and whether actions in one world are balanced out by actions in the other concerning the same person. Some lead similar or the same lives, while everyone around them lead drastically different lives because of the split. Perhaps they, themselves, have a very thin dimensional veil, causing little difference to come about. And, then, the ones whose lives have the most difference would logically have thick veils about them. The same would go for areas in which the same monsters roam in both worlds; perhaps these areas are so unaffected that their environment has not changed in the least!

Perhaps when dimensions are split, some links or entities have stronger inward compositions or some other physical phenomenon that result in them running a bit closer to each other. Think of two planes set atop each other with space between; some points dip, nearly touching each other, while the only tunnels between the two are Angelus Errare and the FATE Island distortions in the Sea of Eden. In any case, connections between persons is tenuous except in the case of Orlha and Tia, who seem to be equivalents of one another though somehow different in identity.