Guardia's Odd Inheritance

[ZeaLitY]

That is the only time he is referred to as GUARDIA. Nonetheless it stands reason to strike that he has the family name, considering Leene marries into the family. Lensman and I both have the whole script file.

[chronotriggerfreak]

Out of curiosity, still, what is he referred to the rest of the time, and what is Guardia XXXIII referred to?

[ZeaLitY]

KING GUARDIA or nothing at all.

[chronotriggerfreak]

Blargh. Well, it was hopeful. Thank you for the insight, nonetheless. And I should enjoy being able to look through that script when you're all done; it would be most helpful for Into the Dream, seeing as how even when I play through the game as I write it I still seem to forget important lines and details.

[Salvadeiro]

I think all the royal families in the game (including Ayla, although she hasnt been denoted as queen) are of the same lineage.  What I'm trying to say is that; maybe all the families are the same family.  Traditions could have passed on from generation (starting with Ayla the cheif all the way to Queen Zeal) and may have ruptured since there wasnt a direct heir.  After regaining controls in the A.D's they could have went back to original traditions.

[Sentenal]

Impossible that the Zeal Royal Family had anything to do with the Guardian Line, simply because after the Ocean Palace disaster, there were none left.  Well, at least in the original timeline, Queen Zeal and Schala are MIA, and Janus is sent to 600ad, and when Crono interfers, Janus is in the DBT, Schala merges with Lavos, and Queen Zeal is in the Black Omen.

I selected 'other'.  Don't think Inheritance is passed down based on gender, rather I think its passed down by age.  The eldest child, regardless of gender, would be heir to the throne, and heir's future husband/wife would be married in.

[DeweyisOverrated]

Maybe its possible that there was an order to who would inherit the throne, somewhat like who becomes president once one President is removed/dies.

For example, it might be:

-eldest Son, then if there is no son:
-eldest daughter
-cousin, etc

Of course, its hard to prove any theory, as we obviously only have about 5% of the total family tree b/w 600 and 1000 A.D.  But its entirely possible that the ones we knew about existed solely because here wasn't a male heir to inherit the throne.

[Epsilon]

Hm.. I'm confused, why does the inheritance have to be odd?
I see it like this:

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KING GUARDIA - QUEEN LEENE
                       |
             KING GUARDIA - SOME OTHER QUEEN
                                    |
                         (etc, etc, etc)
                                     |
(                     KING GUARDIA - QUEEN GUARDIA
                                              |
                                     PRINCESS NADIA (MARLE)

So if 600ad King Guardia's successor is not born because Leene is out of the chain, then the royal line (if it even exists anymore in the alt-1000) is completely different, so Princess Nadia is not born.

[Salvadeiro]

Actually rather than Queen Guardia, its Queen Aliza, whom I think married into the family.  Queen Aliza, it said so in the game.

[YbrikMetaknight]

Yes, I believe Aliza was Nadia's/Marle's mother. But I don't recall hearing anything about her marrying into the family.

[Sentenal]

So none of you buy the "Eldest child is the hier" idea?

[DarkGizmo]

So none of you buy the "Eldest child is the hier" idea?

Could be it but there is absolutly no proof about it and no proof that any heir had a brother/sister.

[YbrikMetaknight]

Plain and simple, how likely is it that, with no proof to make us think one way or another, the eldest or only child for thirteen generations was a female? And for all you who think Aliza married back into the family, recall that in the sequence where Lucca explains Marle's heritage to Crono, the little sprites of Marle's ancestors wear that queen/princess getup. While that doesn't really mean anything, I suspect that was used to support the idea that they were all members of the royal family.

Although odd to people with our Western European roots, the "inheritance passed down through females" explanation is the simplest, and therefore the most likely.

[Sentenal]

If we take that sequence of Lucca explaining Marle's harritage, then we would also have to take there being only 3 or 4 (can't remmber which) generations of women between Leene and Marle.

[YbrikMetaknight]

Thanks for missing the point.