Why did Porre invade?

[Sentenal]

Well, the chests arn't TTI's only proof.

[Zaperking]

Well, Aslong as the Chronopolis TTI thing isn't solved, TTI doesn't exist in my mind. It's pure game evidence proving that it doesn't exist. Especially when TTI was never mentioned in the first place.

[Sentenal]

If you would like to believe that there is no consistanties in time travel in the Chronoverse (which is what you are believing), feel free.

[Chrono'99]

He doesn't believe that out of free-will, he's being forced by FATE  

[jotabe1789]

We don't know if it was actually Porre who caused the fall of Guardia. My favourite theory is that by 1005 there was a secession war inside the Guardia empire. Maybe because of non acceptance of the new heir (Crono) due to his lowly origin? Maybe due to latent nationalism?
 
So maybe the battle in 1005, in front of Guardia Castle, is by a combined army from all the "colonies" of Guardia. And maybe it was later when Porre took the lead, and the hegemony. Maybe because it was Porreand who managed to get hold of the masamune? In 1005 Masamune was "clean". In 1020, it was full of enmity. Maybe Porreans used it to get the supremacy over all the other world nations, filling it with enmity.

[SilentMartyr]

I am pretty sure somewhere in the game it states that Porre caused Guardia's fall. I need to play it more!

[Chrono'99]

It's not actually stated in CC. The only arguments are the flag of Porre we see in the cutscene in FFChronicles, and Kato's words in an interview (mentioning "Porre helped by a force from another time" or something mysterious like that).

[SilentMartyr]

Hokay, the Kato thing was probably what I was thinking of.

[Sentenal]

Its a near sure thing that it was Porre going to war with Guardia.  There is the porre flag in the cut scenes, and Kato's words, so thats enough for me.  The problem most have with this is not the "who took them down", its the "how".

[jthomp1286]

Since everything was fine 1000 A.D., and then Guardia falls in 1005 A.D., the only explanation for such an explosion in military might had to have come from an outside source. Especially one, outside of the normal flow of time. However, I must say I suspect the rebirth of the forest on the southern continent probably did in fact play some role in that.
Maybe it was Dalton, after all he disappeared into a time warp too. He may have ended up in Poore. Then again, maybe the long hair in the scene we see at the end of Chronicles is of no consequence. How this person obtaines the Masamune is beyond me... but I highly doubt Frog just gave it up to someone. Either he was killed for it (which I doubt as well), or he DID put it back in the mountain and our aformentioned outside source obtained it.

But all theories aside, we don't KNOW what happened, we weren't allowed to witness it. Maybe in some later CT game they'll elaborate on that more or we'll actually see it happen, who knows? That FMV was meant probably as just something to lead up to CC and was left for our speculation.

[V_Translanka]

We don't know that it was a time warp that Dalton disappeared into...If anything, you'd think you'd call it a summoning portal or something...

[jthomp1286]

Well who says he wasn't "summoned" to 1000 A.D.?

[Chrono'99]

However, I must say I suspect the rebirth of the forest on the southern continent probably did in fact play some role in that.

Probably not, or just a little bit. Fiona's forest was restored before the end of Crono's adventure, and you didn't see Porre change much in CT after doing that side-quest.

[Sentenal]

Well who says he wasn't "summoned" to 1000 A.D.?

Your realize he fell into the Portal that the Golem Boss was supposed to come out of, right?

[Mystik3eb]

Lavos showed up in a similar portal in Magus' castle...ok, didn't really show up, but since Magus 'summoned' it, I'd assume it was a similar thing.

Anyways, I think it was Dalton. You guys should read my Fan Fic I posted. It's mostly accurate, except the end. If I were to change it, I'd have Dalton going to Porre after his 'encounter' with Melchior and doing his thing there.

As for Porre's rise (it's not spelt 'Poore', people!), I think it was Dalton or someone (hell it might've been Magus for all we know =p) 'dethroned' the Mayor, as it were, got weapons from Lucca, vastly accelerated on them with help from resources in El Nido, and kicked Guardia's ass, stealing the Masamune. I'm one to believe Dalton did something to it to make Masa and Mune fall asleep, therefore leaving only MM energy (hey...Mamon Machine and Masa Mune start with the same letters!...anyway...) and his dark will to corrupt it. Or he placed a spell on Masa and Mune and "woke up their evil parts" (a la Orcha, which would explain how Porre knew how to do this to Orcha) and...yeah.

Now my theory only works, since it includes the Porre-Elements theory, in the CC timeline. Then again, that's the only timeline we see in CC that involves the evil Masamune, so who's to say Guardia even fell in the non-CC timeline? WE'LL NEVER KNOW!

...maybe.