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Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« on: May 08, 2018, 11:24:38 pm »
Hi all,

Since we've heard that elements of Final Fantasy Dimensions II are potentially unrealized aspects of Chrono Break (well, at least Takashi Tokita's version of Chrono Break), I've bit the bullet and bought the game. I'll be playing through it slowly over the next few months and bringing tidbits back to this thread for discussion and analysis.

Just wanted to get the ball rolling.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 11:30:54 pm »
Oh, I'd certainly want to know more about that.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 11:57:58 pm »
Looking forward to it! It'll be interesting to parse out potential plot threads Chrono Break might have had.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2018, 12:21:28 am »
Alright...

So the game kicks off with this intro / theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oDP6y9E90Q.

My initial impression is that the game looks about about like a mobile game, and that the graphics are a mixed bag. Some of the graphics look awesome (some of the enemy designs look stellar), although some of the backgrounds are heavily pixelated and look rough. The character models look good, though.

The protagonist, Morrow (whom I assume is named after the concept of 'Tomorrow') looks like he could be a Chronoverse character.

If you haven't seen him, you can see him here: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Morrow

Now, on to the actual prologue...

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[EVENT]

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SQUARE ENIX PRESENTS

Morrow awakens in a desolate landscape that looks like it could easily be Chrono Trigger's 2300AD. Barren earth, the skeletal remains of trees (are are they buildings?) are in the background, all below crimson red skies. Dust and wind batters the kneeling Morrow, who clearly has no idea where he is.

Morrow: ...

He looks around.

Morrow: Where am I...?

There is a ROAR from afar; the screen shakes.

Morrow: That's right! I have to stop him!

Morrow draws his sword, which looks sort of like a cousin to the Masamune. It is a broadsword with a winged hilt made of gold, adorned with a single red stone.

Morrow engages our intro battle against a flying Red Dragon, and thus the tutorial begins. A moogle, Dr. Mog, welcomes us and offers his assistance in helping us learn and navigate.

Gameplay Sidebar: So far, battle is turn-based with options for Attack, Ability, and Summon. Abilities and Summon options are unavailable in the tutorial, which is against a level 46 Red Dragon. The turn order is displayed on the left side of the screen and shows who is up for the following 8 turns.

I should also note that Morrow starts with 3160HP and 698MP -- is this an event in the future?! Surely that's not me at the beginning of the game!

After learning to attack, the Abilities option opens up, allowing for Firaga Breath III, Thundaga Breath III, Phantom Rush III, and Evil Eye III.


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I chose Phantom Rush III out of the gate and whoop the Red Dragon's ass.

Gameplay Sidebar: Dr. Moogle informs me that MP is refilled after EVERY battle. I've heard that there's no exploration in this game; it's just plot and battle. Damn.

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Despite having defeated the Red Dragon, it is still flying before me. A blonde, glasses-wearing, spear-wielding ally runs up beside me.

He's this guy: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Wrieg

He speaks:

????: Don't be ridiculous, Morrow!

Morrow: Wrieg! You came!


The blonde hero, Wrieg, automatically uses his Jump command and destroys the dragon.

Wave 1 of 4 is completed and we move on to Wave 2, where we come across a Final Fantasy staple: a horned, purple-haired beast known as a Behemoth.

Gameplay Sidebar: Dr. Moogle comes back to teach me how to use the Summon command. Apparently it uses both HP and MP, and opening up the menu reveals four new attack command options: Wave Cannon, Dark Messenger, Eyes on Me, and Black Sky. I chose Black Sky and summon a witch-like creature who casts a spell and showers the Behemoth with meteors. It's HP is entirely depleted, but it isn't destroyed. Dr. Moogle now teaches me how to choose which target to attack by tapping on said enemy.

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In a kamikaze attack, the behemoth uses an attack that does 99,999HP damage to both Morrow and Wrieg. The behemoth vaporizes itself in the attack, which brings both of my heroes to 1HP.

Limited to 1HP, a new party member rushes up. She's a brunette wearing white and green futuristic clothing, and she wields a pretty nifty rod-type weapon. She looks serious with a sort of permanent furrowed brow and slight frown. I'm calling it now, she's gonna be my healer.

Oh, and this is what she looks like: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aemo. I should note that the outfit she is wearing in-game is not the same in the official art on the Final Fantasy wiki.

The newcomer speaks:

????: Are you two all right?

She automatically casts Cure III and both Morrow and Wrieg turn to her.

Morrow: [smiling] Who are you?

????: There's no time to explain. Come on!

She joins my party and we move on to Wave 3, where we are fighting more Final Fantasy monsters: a LV48 Ailemange (aka Evil Eye from other FF games) and a LV48 Iron Giant.

Gameplay Sidebar: Since this is the first time I can access the abilities of the new girl and Wrieg, I am checking them out. Wrieg has Ability commands of Rapid Thunder III, Stonega Breath III, Rapid Stone III, and Jump III. His Summon commands are Abysmal Maw, Aerial Blast, Desert Storm, and Tornado. I am totally using Tornado...

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...which kills the Iron Giant.

Gameplay Sidebar: Homegirl has Ability commands of Banishga III, Banishga Breath III, Rapid Banish III, and Cura III. She has Summon commands of Spring of Heroism, Lunar Embrace, Mighty Wall, and Reaper's Judgment.

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Hell yes I'm going to use Reaper's Judgment. Turns out I summon the typical Final Fantasy staple, Alexander, and he uses a spell attack to attack the remaining monster. I think it's an auto-kill attack and it misses. She gets a second attack, though, so I just use the physical attack to kill it.[/size]

I defeat the other monster and we move on to Wave 4, where we come across a giant, Bahamut Zero (from FFVII) looking boss monster.

He is:

???? LVL 50

Wrieg: If we get hit by Mega Flair, it's all over. So no holding back! Give it all you've got!

A countdown begins from 5. I assume every monster attack is a countdown, so I'm going to go apeshit on this mofo. I'm spamming this guy with all I have, but he has 5 turns before my party can all attack, and I can only whittle down like 1/8 of his total HP.

The boss counts down to 0.

Wrieg: Damn, not again!

????: Don't give up! This time for sure...!

The boss uses Mega Flare, a white hot beam of fire engulfing my party.

Fade to black...

Over the darkness:

???: Morrow...? Morrow...!

Fade to white:

Morrow is lying on a cape overlooking a serene landscape. The hill is adorned with a single tree and some tied wood fencing. The hill overlooks a huge stretch of shimmering blue water, and beyond it - miles away - I can see small mountains and a single, spiraling tower that reaches far into the clouds.

Morrow pushes himself up from the ground and sees a bearded, gray-haired man wearing brown Jedi-robes. Old Ben Kenobi...?

Morrow: Gramps?!

Gad: Hoho, who else would know to find you here? I came to tell you that your favorite adventurer is back in town.

Morrow finally stands to his feet.

Morrow: You mean Wrieg's here?

Gad: Yes. He's in the village square telling tales of his journey as we speak.

Morrow: Oh no! I hope I didn't miss anything!

Gad: Hoho, that's what happens when you sleep the day away, Morrow! But you may be able to catch the end of it if you hurry. Now go on!


Morrow runs off and Gad follows. The camera pans up into the sky, where we see how tall the spire actually is. The title appears:

FINAL FANTASY DIMENSIONS II

Alright, so at this point the prologue ends and Chapter 1-1 begins. I am going to wait a day or two before continuing to allow for discussion.

I am guessing my heroes are caught in a time loop, and that we've repeated this multiple times. The girl, Aemo, seems to be immune to it, or perhaps she's from the future (she probably really is from the future based on her initial futuristic outfit).

Time to do this loop again, and fairly soon we'll come back to this moment -- except this time my characters will be strong enough to show that Bahamut-esque boss a thing or two.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2018, 12:36:04 am by Boo the Gentleman Caller »

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2018, 12:26:53 pm »
SPOILERS, but......





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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 01:54:25 pm »
Yeah, there's actually a ton of spoilers out there, but the Final Fantasy wiki is still very much incomplete when it comes to this game.

I was hoping to keep this more like a quasi-let's play and discuss as we go through the game.

But yup, the Deathlord and others are DEFINITELY Chrono Trigger-esque.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2018, 07:53:12 pm »
Oooooo this looks good, I want to play it now!

Too many games and too little time. LOL

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2018, 12:20:33 am »
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Oooooo this looks good, I want to play it now!

Too many games and too little time. LOL

Story of my life. And it only got worse once I got Steam and started doing more PC gaming. Due to Humble Bundle and Steam sales, I have like 900 games in my Steam library. That's not to mention physical console games (especially my 3DS games). Ugh.

So much money in games I'll never play.

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 02:07:59 pm »
Story of my life. And it only got worse once I got Steam and started doing more PC gaming. Due to Humble Bundle and Steam sales, I have like 900 games in my Steam library. That's not to mention physical console games (especially my 3DS games). Ugh.

So much money in games I'll never play.

Holy crap!! 900?! That is a LOT of games! If it wasn't for adulting, we could play games all day! I sure wish I could. LOL Then you'd actually be able to play all 900 of those games. Life gets in the way of fun. LOL Of course, there is always retirement!  :D

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2018, 03:53:03 pm »
A lot of those games come from super cheap Humble Bundle sales, and half of those are absolute rubbish games that I would never actually play.

Just to be honest.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2018, 06:10:54 pm »
I know exactly what you mean. I've downloaded a bunch of app games that I'll never play. They looked cool at the time and then was "meh" about them. LOL The struggle is real!

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2018, 04:47:49 pm »
I need to get back on this. Mobile games are just so frustrating to me.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 04:36:38 am »
Did you continue the playthrough? The only good/extensive information on this game is via playthroughs, and they are lengthy and boring  :( I am really interested in the story though, because there are so many elements that are more or less obviously originated from the Chrono sequel (from Takashi Tokita's proposed Chrono Break)

When you realize the Chrono Sequel story is converted in a mobile game, we truly live in the darkest timeline

Schala being crystallized, Aemo hints that she would originally be from a "doomed timeline" like 2300 AD in CT, making a unique early game in comparison to CT's slow one. There must be more "links" that can eventually be compiled to realize what the approximate story was for the sequel, I think

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2018, 10:19:28 am »
No, truth be told I never did. Spent $15 and never played the game out of that initial session. I really, REALLY should get back on that. If nothing else so we can dissect, discuss, and compare to the Chrono series.

I'm just not much for mobile phone games and that whole battle-oriented format. I prefer the exploration element of jRPGs, which kills pretty much any interest in the later mobile jRPG market. I've tried games like Final Fantasy Record Keeper and Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, as well as Star Ocean Amnesis amongst others. They're all gacha games with no exploration, just battle after battle, which gets old.

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Re: Final Fantasy Dimensions II
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2018, 12:08:27 pm »
No, truth be told I never did. Spent $15 and never played the game out of that initial session. I really, REALLY should get back on that. If nothing else so we can dissect, discuss, and compare to the Chrono series.

I'm just not much for mobile phone games and that whole battle-oriented format. I prefer the exploration element of jRPGs, which kills pretty much any interest in the later mobile jRPG market. I've tried games like Final Fantasy Record Keeper and Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, as well as Star Ocean Amnesis amongst others. They're all gacha games with no exploration, just battle after battle, which gets old.

I agree I can't stand these new "summon" type games, gets boring quickly. A friend at work turned me onto The World Ends with you (Mobile Port) in case you've never tried it, it has some exploration, not too much, but has a very unique battle system and game style that I thought was great.