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The origin of the pendant?
« on: July 13, 2016, 04:43:02 pm »
While playing Chrono Cross I noticed Leah has what seems like the same pendant Schala and later Marle had (because they are obviously related)...What I want to know is: what is the pendant? What is its origin? What is its purpose? Where did it get its power?

Either it originated during 65 million b.c. with Leah or it was created during the time of Zeal. It seems like its purpose was only to open sealed doors with the help of the Mammon Machine. But later in Chrono Cross, it seems like it enabled the travel between dimensions...

This has probably been discussed before, but I would just like to know your thoughts...

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Re: The origin of the pendant?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 03:12:42 pm »
 :?
Yeah, it at was maybe lost it power? But...
It was wery intresting think: reason why Marle( Is that her Nippon name?)  lost to back 400 yers... and it not open these magic sealed chest/door?

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Re: The origin of the pendant?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 12:44:19 am »
The Pendant was made of Dreamstone.

Just as Masa & Mune are the Dream Species representing the Masamune (Grandleon), I believe Doreen of Zeal represents the Pendant.

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Re: The origin of the pendant?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 05:29:30 pm »
I always assumed that Schala's (later Marle's) pendant was made by Melchior around the same time he made the Ruby Knife, since Masa mentions them both in the same breath. Leah's pendant is probably just an unrelated piece of decorative jewelry.

Then again, maybe it's not, and it has something to do with all the weird temporal events that happen to Leah... But without further clarification from the game's writers, I'd still go with the simpler explanation: just a pretty necklace.

As for the dimensional travel part, it's actually Kid's Astral Amulet which allows this, and the description of that item as being wooden precludes it from being Schala's pendant, which is made of Dreamstone.

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Re: The origin of the pendant?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2016, 07:54:04 pm »
Well you can assume Leah's is the dream stone Ayla gives Crono, if she really is her mother. No mention in game though.
Besides, I don't think Schala's pendant makes an visual appearance in cc, unless the magatama shaped thing Kid wears is it. But why Schala/Kid holds it in the ending CG I have no idea. Maybe it chages shapes? *head exploded*

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Re: The origin of the pendant?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2016, 05:24:00 am »
Yes, the whole thing is rather confusing. Baby Kid is clearly wearing Schala's Dreamstone pendant in the PS/DS ending cutscene of Chrono Trigger, but she doesn't wear it in Chrono Cross as one would expect of such a sentimental item. I suspect the pendant in the cutscene was simply intended to be visual shorthand to help establish Kid's origin and bridge the two games; in "reality" she was wearing the Astral Amulet. Or an even simpler explanation: it was the result of an oversight on the game developers' parts, or a miscommunication between them and the animation studio.

As for Kid holding her beaded necklace in the Chrono Cross ending cutscene, I think that was probably just meant to identify her to the audience; there's no mistaking such a distinctive item.

Although you raise an interesting point about the possibility of the pendant changing shape. Dreamstone items have been shown to be quite malleable. Just look at the many evolutions of the Ruby Knife: from knife to good Masamune, to evil Masamune, and finally to Mastermune. However, I seriously doubt Kid's beaded necklace was intended to be the Dreamstone pendant because no fuss is ever made about it in-game.

Both the concept art and the in-game sprite of the Dreamstone which Ayla gives to Crono depict a large chunk of red rock rather than a blue necklace. In any event, the circumstances surrounding Leah are so strange that I think it's impossible to draw any definite conclusions about her.

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Re: The origin of the pendant?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2016, 11:12:01 am »
Large red... hmm... well, are masamune was red?

Melcharior make them....