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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2005, 12:50:13 pm »
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Kid:
C'mon Serge, me mate!
You don't wanna keep the
girl waiting any longer...
She's been waitin' for you,
and only you!
And for over ten thousand
years, I might add!


Like Kid is any valid source of information on the Tesseract. Sure, the time she's been waiting may equate to 10,000 years in OUR world, but it's pretty obvious the Tesseract works on a different time frame (how it works is debateable) and I just don't think that Schala, no matter how noble, can keep sane for 10,000 years of existence. Come on.

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  Led by the pitiful crying
   the young Serge made as
   the panther demon's poison
   took hold of him...
   Princess Schala traveled ten
   thousand years in time
to try
   and make contact with this
   dimension!

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2005, 01:44:06 pm »
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*a whole bunch of stuff*


So, you're trying to say that the Time Devourer DID travel from 12,000 BC to 100X(When serge was bitten by the panther).

In which case, the incarnation of the TD we see in the Tesseract is still young, and has barely begun the process of merging with Schalla.

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2005, 02:20:14 pm »
I'm saying that perhaps Schala in the DBT did witness ten thousands years pass?

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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2005, 05:13:57 pm »
I always thought so. It makes Schala agony oh so longer, meaning that once she feels freedom, it would make sense she understands all that deep stuff she did.

And the TD isn't young, it's about (Or more) then halfway through maturing.

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2005, 06:24:19 pm »
Didn't she already understand deep stuff?

Schala: Mother! This is a power that no human may control! etc, etc, womanly princess angst, etc, OMG the DBT.

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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2005, 06:44:28 pm »
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Didn't she already understand deep stuff?

Schala: Mother! This is a power that no human may control! etc, etc, womanly princess angst, etc, OMG the DBT.

This isn't deep. A speech about living beings being spermatozoas and the planet being an ovula is deep...

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2005, 07:01:35 pm »
Yea. We=insignificant.
World=Significant. Sounds DEEP to me. >_>

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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2005, 07:02:45 pm »
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A speech about living beings being spermatozoas and the planet being an ovula is deep...


It was an example, you know. But hey, she did figure out the meaning of life in Chrono's world. Just because you think Schala actually meant everyone are spermatoza dosen't mean she did. Plus, even if she did mean it, it shows life is the same, for us little human and for that big ol' universe.

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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2005, 07:05:57 pm »
I know, I was actually serious about the deepness of that quote.
This one however
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This is a power that no human may control!

is totally cliche'd and seen in every rpg...

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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2005, 07:14:39 pm »
True :/ But still. Since when did she say anything about the meaning of life? I don't remember that.

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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2005, 07:26:17 pm »
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I'm saying that perhaps Schala in the DBT did witness ten thousands years pass?


The Darkness Beyond Time may be a place where time can pass without passing.  Like, existing in an Nth dimension state which we can describe but not quite understand.  What I'm getting at is that I think Schala would go mad if she was trapped for ten thousand years of real time, especially if she has no other company or distraction save Lavos.  However, it may be possible for her to witness all of that ten thousand years worth of history, and glean some sort of deeper understanding as a result, while for her personally, only a day's worth of time seemed to pass.  This is how I tend to view Schala at the end of Cross.

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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2005, 07:32:48 pm »
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True :/ But still. Since when did she say anything about the meaning of life? I don't remember that.


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 The '"eggs"' that we call planets...
   And the innumerable '"spermatozoa"'
   which gather around these
   that we call life-forms...
   
   When one of those countless seeds
   inseminates a planet,
   a new universe is born.
   
   But until that occurs,
   hundreds of millions of years will pass,
   and innumerable life-forms will be born,
   then die...

   That is the be-all and end-all.
   Everything exists for that one moment.
   All so that the universe can evolve
   into the next dimension...

   Does that make us all just pawns?
   Are each of our short lives
   nothing but a cheap sacrifice
   just so the one chosen life-form
   can be born?

   No. That is not the case!
   Each and every one of us
   has a chance of becoming
   that one chosen life-form
   which inseminates a planet.
   Yes, it could be '"you"'...

   
   Genes and environment...
   Each of us tries to do his best
   under the limited conditions
   we are each dealt.
   
   Each life-form that attempts to
   eke out a decent life for itself
   forms a link in the golden chain
   that leads to the creation of
   a new universe.

   If one link is missing,
   there will be no future.

   
   There is no such thing as
   a useless life-form...
   No such thing as
   a pawn!


If to cut to the chase, this means the meaning of life is striving to become the chosen entity, and along the way preparing the world for it's arrival.

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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2005, 07:35:15 pm »
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I'm saying that perhaps Schala in the DBT did witness ten thousands years pass?


The Darkness Beyond Time may be a place where time can pass without passing.  Like, existing in an Nth dimension state which we can describe but not quite understand.  What I'm getting at is that I think Schala would go mad if she was trapped for ten thousand years of real time, especially if she has no other company or distraction save Lavos.  However, it may be possible for her to witness all of that ten thousand years worth of history, and glean some sort of deeper understanding as a result, while for her personally, only a day's worth of time seemed to pass.  This is how I tend to view Schala at the end of Cross.

OdF

It makes sense. This explanation can also account for what happens to the Radical Dreamers in the 'Corridors of Time' (which I think is a prototype to what the scenarists eventually called DBT in CC).

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2005, 12:50:55 pm »
....woah. Go Schala. >_>;; See, this is the kind of crap I miss out on for not having a Playstation.

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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2005, 02:31:16 pm »
Hey, I never said CC's isn't weird. It is. But once you understand the meaning of her words, you understand how touching it is!