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ShogunSlug

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I know you guys know this song
« on: November 21, 2013, 02:21:03 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifsrI5cUCUY

I was watching Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern and caught this nice little clip of a song you all should know.

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2013, 09:11:46 am »
The percussion is different. I wonder if that electric sitar-thing part is from a sample library. That would make the most sense. So this probably isn't stolen at all, it's just that particular instrument part is probably from a collection.

Mitsuda, of course, uses many of these in his music.

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2013, 01:34:05 pm »
Yeah, I remember there was a commercial that sounded exactly like Mitsuda's "Song of Nephilim" from the Xenosaga soundtrack a long time back. It'd be really interesting to research Mitsuda's musical compositions and document the sample usage. I wonder if the chant in "Dragon God" was pulled from some kind of cultural voice library?

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2013, 12:38:15 pm »
Yes, both the Song of Neph samples and Dragon God samples are pulled from sample libraries.

Also, relevant thread:
http://vgmdb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11231

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 02:17:30 pm »
Oh, that is awesome! Thanks Jormungand. I'm just copying it here for safekeeping:

Quote from: Nisto, VGMdb Staff
Chrono Cross
*"TRANSFORME" from "Spectrasonics: Distorted Reality 2" was used in 3.02 "クロノポリス"
*"GRIMREAPER" from "Spectrasonics: Distorted Reality 2" was used in 3.09 "星の塔"

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2013, 06:32:41 pm »
I haven't seen that show before, but I know I've heard that familiar clip elsewhere, in commercials I think. Must be really common then.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2013, 06:35:26 pm by Vehek »

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 03:15:59 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that samples were used; I've heard the exact same sounds in "Chronopolis" somewhere else before.

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 08:44:30 pm »
I don't know how to think this. I'd like to think more of Mitsuda than to base some of his wicked awesome tunes around sound bytes. It sort of ruins it for me knowing that he borrows music samples to help write tunes.

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2013, 01:40:43 pm »
The samples are paid-for and produced specifically for commercial use, so Mitsuda isn't "borrowing" anything. Actually he uses his samples quite artfully, building clever rhythmic structures and harmony around whatever he uses. Most musicians/music producers just load up the samples and call it a composition (especially in rap/hip-hop, film and western game music). Mitsuda doesn't base his work around samples, he uses samples to add color to his work.

(And yeah, the Chronopolis electronic rhythm thing is also a library sample)

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 06:35:20 pm »
Did Beethoven use sound samples, too...? ;)

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Re: I know you guys know this song
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2013, 07:42:50 pm »
Did Beethoven use sound samples, too...? ;)
He certainly borrowed from the masters that came before him. :) (all the great composers do)