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Chrono News / Re: Masato Kato is working on another time-travel based game
« on: March 29, 2019, 05:55:25 am »
Yea I think its very good. The difficulty after first few chapters is also quite challenging, not your basic "overlevel and 1-hit everything" type game.
A few teaser screens...
Mystery woman?:
End of time?!:
Time portals..:
A few teaser screens...
Mystery woman?:
End of time?!:
Time portals..:
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General Discussion / Re: Look who I found on Another Eden!
« on: March 28, 2019, 07:38:24 am »
I'm from Europe and it is not available here. I just downloaded the Another Eden apk from google, installed, and selected Canada as my region. Works fine.
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Chrono News / Re: Masato Kato is working on another time-travel based game
« on: March 28, 2019, 03:40:30 am »
It's been a few years since I used an emulator, so dont know the current ones. Consensus on Reddit seems to be that Bluestacks is quite good. Nox seems to send your info to China, so dont use that.
I've been really liking the game currently! It's very story driven, but also has an interesting (but simple) combat system. It might be a bit slow-paced during dialogue, but I dont mind since the stories are fun and interesting. Music is of course great!
Some slight spoilers on the setting: The time eras seem to be 300AD, 1100AD and Antiquity (still dont know the exact year for Antiquity). 0AD is depicted to be the start of some kingdom. Ashtear resides in 300AD. I dont know whether she's Lucca, her ancestor/descendant or just fan service.
I see the setting as a sort of opposite to the Chrono world. Main character uses a sword, while "Cyrus" the frog man uses a Katana (Opposite of Crono and Frog). The world in the future is floating in Another Eden (12,000BC in Chrono), while the Antiquity in AE seems well-being and civilizationally stable (like 1999AD in Chrono). Main characters are a brother and sister, so I think that theme is also similar to Chrono series. There is also a demi-human race called the Beasts in 300AD, that are angry at humans.
I wouldnt mind a Another Eden subforum, where one could analyse the connections, stories and fan service in AE in comparison to Chrono.
I've been really liking the game currently! It's very story driven, but also has an interesting (but simple) combat system. It might be a bit slow-paced during dialogue, but I dont mind since the stories are fun and interesting. Music is of course great!
Some slight spoilers on the setting: The time eras seem to be 300AD, 1100AD and Antiquity (still dont know the exact year for Antiquity). 0AD is depicted to be the start of some kingdom. Ashtear resides in 300AD. I dont know whether she's Lucca, her ancestor/descendant or just fan service.
I see the setting as a sort of opposite to the Chrono world. Main character uses a sword, while "Cyrus" the frog man uses a Katana (Opposite of Crono and Frog). The world in the future is floating in Another Eden (12,000BC in Chrono), while the Antiquity in AE seems well-being and civilizationally stable (like 1999AD in Chrono). Main characters are a brother and sister, so I think that theme is also similar to Chrono series. There is also a demi-human race called the Beasts in 300AD, that are angry at humans.
I wouldnt mind a Another Eden subforum, where one could analyse the connections, stories and fan service in AE in comparison to Chrono.
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Chrono News / Re: Masato Kato is working on another time-travel based game
« on: March 25, 2019, 01:14:45 pm »
Just installed and started playing. Sounds interesting.
Just so you know, there are a lot of Android emulators available, if you want to play it on PC.
Just so you know, there are a lot of Android emulators available, if you want to play it on PC.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Cracking out who exactly is Zoah?
« on: March 25, 2019, 05:00:20 am »
BTW, here is the "inside of Zoah's mask (from here https://storage.googleapis.com/utunnels1.appspot.com/ccmodelviewer/index.html#battle/zoah):
It's a long shot, but could the pixels above the eyes indicate a headband? It would be very silly thing to have under a mask though. One thing to note, is that the pixels in the face are symmetrical, indicating that there would not be a non-symmetrical scar or similar in his face around the eyes. It could however be, that the pixels present are just reflections from the helmet.
Another thing is that the Chrono Cross models for Zoah and Crono (https://storage.googleapis.com/utunnels1.appspot.com/ccmodelviewer/index.html#room/crono) are both wearing sandals (and bracer-type things).
Is there any significance of the pattern on Zoah's loincloth-thingy? Is it observable anywhere else?
It's a long shot, but could the pixels above the eyes indicate a headband? It would be very silly thing to have under a mask though. One thing to note, is that the pixels in the face are symmetrical, indicating that there would not be a non-symmetrical scar or similar in his face around the eyes. It could however be, that the pixels present are just reflections from the helmet.
Another thing is that the Chrono Cross models for Zoah and Crono (https://storage.googleapis.com/utunnels1.appspot.com/ccmodelviewer/index.html#room/crono) are both wearing sandals (and bracer-type things).
Is there any significance of the pattern on Zoah's loincloth-thingy? Is it observable anywhere else?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Cracking out who exactly is Zoah?
« on: March 25, 2019, 03:40:09 am »
If he would be Crono, the fact that Zoah is ALWAYS SHOUTING could be a funny way to emphasize that Crono is now talking, opposed to his silence in CT. 😛
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Cracking out who exactly is Zoah?
« on: March 24, 2019, 06:50:07 pm »
I also keep wondering if there's some connection to prehistory for him? His outfit, his choice of fist usage and the manner of speech is similar to Ayla, Kino etc, maybe a bit more modern. His name's similarity to Leah is also interesting. Maybe he is Ayla and Kino's son (and Leah's grandson)? Could he be the "prince" of their tribe? Zoah's special attack involves him riding a dragon, which supports this connection.
I have no idea why he'd be watching Serge though, unless he is Crono and is aware of his remarkability through Lucca? Maybe he is somehow connected to the Panther attack or the drowning event?
I have no idea why he'd be watching Serge though, unless he is Crono and is aware of his remarkability through Lucca? Maybe he is somehow connected to the Panther attack or the drowning event?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Cracking out who exactly is Zoah?
« on: March 24, 2019, 02:17:48 pm »
Hi, I've been think a lot about who Zoah is/was supposed to be. Here I'll try to compile some info about him, and try to connect the dots.
As a starter, here is the infamous quote about Zoah from the developers:
"We might not be able to talk about the official game now, but there's a secret under Zoah's iron mask. It's said that his face was once injured in war and now he hides the wound with an iron mask, but in reality he's wearing it so as not to reveal his identity. Zoah's role was to be that of the prince of a certain country, secretly watching over the protagonists' doings from the beginning. If you had chosen the forest route (Slash Route) when it came time to infiltrate the Viper Room, you ought to have been able to see an event shedding light on Zoah's true identity."
And here is his character sheet info:
Full Name: Zoah
Occupation: One of the 4 Devas
Origin: El Nido
Age: 28
Species: Human
Home Time: 1020 A.D.
Home Area: Viper Manor
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 203 lbs.
Build: Mammoth
Hand: Right-Handed
Weapon Type: Glove
Innate Element: Yellow
Some speculations about him is here: https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Zoah_(Planned_Identity_of).html, which includes information about connection to Guardia, and pondering whether Magus and Crono could be candidates of who he is.
If we assume that he has not done any time travelling, he would have been born in 992 AD. This means he'd be 8 years old during Chrono Trigger, and 13 years old when Porre invaded Guardia. Since he is possibly connected to Guardia and being a prince of some sort, that would mean he would be a brother or cousin of Marle somehow? Queen Aliza's death is approximated to be around 988 AD, but it could be a possibility that Queen Aliza died during childbirth? This would mean that he lived his childhood somewhere else, or was just not shown during Trigger. He would've come back to Guardia during the war in 1005 AD, and would've fought in the war (as a 13-year old) and got injured. Possibly he could've been the last defender using Masamune. This whole ordeal could have traumatized him, leading to his berserker angry loud voice, and making him use his fists instead of a weapon like a sword, since he failed with Masamune.
Another choice would be that he was an illegimate son of King Guardia XXXIII. He would've been sent to live in El Nido (or his mother being from there) because of the illegimitacy. Maybe he heard that his father is from Guardia (or even that he is the king!), and went to protect Guardia and gotten injured. From there on he'd decided that "AS FOR ME, I CHOOSE TO LIVE IN BATTLE AND ONE DAY TO DIE IN BATTLE.".
Another idea could be that he has somehow time travelled from 600 AD, got injured in the war there and got sent to the 1000 AD era somehow. His age leads me to think, that maybe he is somehow Cyrus? Maybe the statement that "Zoah's role was to be that of the prince of a certain country" means that maybe in some timeline the King at 600AD would've died and the Queen would have remarried with Cyrus, making him a prince somehow (similar to how the husband of Queen Elizabeth is a prince)? Cyrus got injured, got sent through time to El Nido sometime before 1020AD, and decided that he'd use his fists since he failed as a swordsman.
The idea that Zoah is Crono would work, if Crono was indeed the "last defender" in 1005AD when he was 23, got sent through time to 1015AD, where he decided to take the identity of Zoah and be one of the 4 Devas, while also similarly being traumatized and deciding he'd use his fists instead of a sword because of his failure (and also leading to pump iron and using growth hormones). Yellow innate could match Crono because of his lightning attacks. A similar scenario could work with Frog (=Glenn version) somehow (he was a frog prince in some timeline in the endings!).
Any other leads? Does anyone have skills to look at the Japanese original texts if there is some translation differences there or other clues?
As a starter, here is the infamous quote about Zoah from the developers:
"We might not be able to talk about the official game now, but there's a secret under Zoah's iron mask. It's said that his face was once injured in war and now he hides the wound with an iron mask, but in reality he's wearing it so as not to reveal his identity. Zoah's role was to be that of the prince of a certain country, secretly watching over the protagonists' doings from the beginning. If you had chosen the forest route (Slash Route) when it came time to infiltrate the Viper Room, you ought to have been able to see an event shedding light on Zoah's true identity."
And here is his character sheet info:
Full Name: Zoah
Occupation: One of the 4 Devas
Origin: El Nido
Age: 28
Species: Human
Home Time: 1020 A.D.
Home Area: Viper Manor
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 203 lbs.
Build: Mammoth
Hand: Right-Handed
Weapon Type: Glove
Innate Element: Yellow
Some speculations about him is here: https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Zoah_(Planned_Identity_of).html, which includes information about connection to Guardia, and pondering whether Magus and Crono could be candidates of who he is.
If we assume that he has not done any time travelling, he would have been born in 992 AD. This means he'd be 8 years old during Chrono Trigger, and 13 years old when Porre invaded Guardia. Since he is possibly connected to Guardia and being a prince of some sort, that would mean he would be a brother or cousin of Marle somehow? Queen Aliza's death is approximated to be around 988 AD, but it could be a possibility that Queen Aliza died during childbirth? This would mean that he lived his childhood somewhere else, or was just not shown during Trigger. He would've come back to Guardia during the war in 1005 AD, and would've fought in the war (as a 13-year old) and got injured. Possibly he could've been the last defender using Masamune. This whole ordeal could have traumatized him, leading to his berserker angry loud voice, and making him use his fists instead of a weapon like a sword, since he failed with Masamune.
Another choice would be that he was an illegimate son of King Guardia XXXIII. He would've been sent to live in El Nido (or his mother being from there) because of the illegimitacy. Maybe he heard that his father is from Guardia (or even that he is the king!), and went to protect Guardia and gotten injured. From there on he'd decided that "AS FOR ME, I CHOOSE TO LIVE IN BATTLE AND ONE DAY TO DIE IN BATTLE.".
Another idea could be that he has somehow time travelled from 600 AD, got injured in the war there and got sent to the 1000 AD era somehow. His age leads me to think, that maybe he is somehow Cyrus? Maybe the statement that "Zoah's role was to be that of the prince of a certain country" means that maybe in some timeline the King at 600AD would've died and the Queen would have remarried with Cyrus, making him a prince somehow (similar to how the husband of Queen Elizabeth is a prince)? Cyrus got injured, got sent through time to El Nido sometime before 1020AD, and decided that he'd use his fists since he failed as a swordsman.
The idea that Zoah is Crono would work, if Crono was indeed the "last defender" in 1005AD when he was 23, got sent through time to 1015AD, where he decided to take the identity of Zoah and be one of the 4 Devas, while also similarly being traumatized and deciding he'd use his fists instead of a sword because of his failure (and also leading to pump iron and using growth hormones). Yellow innate could match Crono because of his lightning attacks. A similar scenario could work with Frog (=Glenn version) somehow (he was a frog prince in some timeline in the endings!).
Any other leads? Does anyone have skills to look at the Japanese original texts if there is some translation differences there or other clues?
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